Perry files emergency motion to get name on Va. primary ballot

Richmond Times-Dispatch ^ | December 28, 2011 | Andrew Cain

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Texas Gov. Rick Perry today filed an emergency motion in U.S. District Court in Richmond seeking an injunction ordering the State Board of Elections to print presidential primary ballots with his name.

Perry filed suit in federal court Tuesday challenging his exclusion from the March 6 primary ballot, naming the three members of the elections board and Pat Mullins, chairman of the state Republican Party.

Perry is urging a judge to bar the elections board and Mullins from enforcing the state residency requirement for people who collect petition signatures for ballot access.

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[Logical me]

Thank you for the time line. Good job. Newt for President.

[gogogodzilla]

Now, about your posts on this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2825866/posts

I take it you’ve read the posts here and can understand the chronology of events, as well as the VAGOP regulations... and the historical precedence of how they were enforced.

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So, are you still going to say Newt and Perry didn’t turn in over the required 10,000 signatures? Or say that the VAGOP did apply their regulations equitably? Or say that the VAGOP didn’t change their policies after the fact?

What am I saying? Of course you will. You, like so many, can’t admit making a mistake.

[Proudcongal]

Because anything Newt does is considered “negative.” I say the Republican voters of Virginia file a class action lawsuit, protest or something. I can’t get over that 5 out of the 7 candidates won’t be on the ballot. The stink isn’t getting any better.

[Prokopton]

So, are you still going to say Newt and Perry didn’t turn in over the required 10,000 signatures?

The signatures must be of "registered Virginia voters". Perry and Gingrich might have turned in documents with 10,000 names on them, but do you know whether there were 10,000 names of "registered Virginia voters"?

No, I didn't think so.

[mrsmith]

"... RPV officials encouraged candidates repeatedly, through both counsel and field staff, to submit 15,000 or more signatures in an abundance of caution, so that they would meet the legal requirements.

Candidates were officially informed of the 15,000 rule in October 2011, well in advance of the Dec. 22 submission deadline. The rule was no surprise to any candidate – and indeed, no candidate or campaign offered any complaints ..."

Didn't see this on your timeline.
Should be, don't you think?

[RedMDer]

You are very welcome. This thread and another started me looking.

[gogogodzilla]

It doesn’t matter if the signatures are valid or not... as the VAGOP regulations stipulate that signatures are only to be checked for local and state elections, not for national offices.

That was the case for Paul and Romney for the 2012 election and all the candidates for all national elections as far back as 1996 (I haven’t bothered to look farther than that).

As that is the regulation and the precedent, then Newt and Perry’s signatures are to be treated the same way. Equal treatment under law, as according to the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.

Which means, under VAGOP regulations, they qualified and must be on the ballot.

I’d recommend the VAGOP get their head out of their @ss and rewrite their eligibility requirements for the next election, though.

(that, and it’s nice to see these ‘rules-are-rules’ jerkwads hoisted on their own petards)

[txhurl]

Virginia is a “swing” state and part of Super Tuesday. Texas (also Super Tuesday state) has been sidelined due to redistricting case going to the Supreme Court.

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To clarify, in TX only statewide races have been sidelined, not National ones in the redistricting.

[cookcounty]

"It doesn’t matter if the signatures are valid or not... as the VAGOP regulations stipulate that signatures are only to be checked for local and state elections, not for national offices."

Seriously? Source?

[Prokopton]

It doesn’t matter if the signatures are valid or not...

Equal treatment under law, as according to the 14th Amendment of the US Constitution.

Do you realize how utterly crazy this sounds? You make the OWS protestors seem sane by comparison.

[Rome2000]

Effin blueblood country clubbers are going to pay, one way or another.

All they have accomplished is making sure they are first in line for payback.

[Bibman]

Couldn’t happen to two nicer guys.

[af_vet_rr]

Question: Does any one know why Newt isn’t challenging this? Wouldn’t there be strength in numbers?

Why only Perry?

Newt said they hired somebody that turned in some fraudulent signatures, plus I read liberals were crossing over and playing games, and when the GOP went to verify the signatures, they were invalid.

It's irritating, but you know what? Even if the Virginia GOP never verified signatures before, any candidate should expect that the signatures they collect will be verified in some manner. Otherwise, it leaves the primaries wide open to being manipulated, and Ron Paul supporters and liberals are known to pull this kind of crap.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

http://therecordlive.com/article/Orange_County_News/Orange_County_News/Texas_will_miss_Super_Tuesday/66033

Texas will not be part of the March 6 Super Tuesday vote.

[gogogodzilla]

For the VAGOP precedence of not checking signatures, see this thread:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2825382/posts

For the regulation is question stating that it’s only for state/local office and not national (please note that there isn’t even a mention of addresses or checking involved, which is completely different that the regulation for state/local elections):

Virginia law does NOT require an address on petitions for Presidential Primaries: § 24.2-545

“B. Any person seeking the nomination of the national political party for the office of President of the United States, or any group organized in this Commonwealth on behalf of, and with the consent of such person, may file with the State Board petitions signed by at least 10,000 qualified voters, including at least 400 qualified voters from each congressional district in the Commonwealth, who attest that they intend to participate in the primary of the same political party as the candidate for whom the petitions are filed. Such petitions shall be filed with the State Board by the primary filing deadline. The petitions shall be on a form prescribed by the State Board and shall be sealed in one or more containers to which is attached a written statement giving the name of the presidential candidate and the number of signatures on the petitions contained in the containers. Such person or group shall also attach a list of the names of persons who would be elected delegates and alternate delegates to the political party’s national convention if the person wins the primary and the party has determined that its delegates will be selected pursuant to the primary. The slate of delegates and alternates shall comply with the rules of the national and state party.”

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So the precedence is for 10,000 signatures or more, without checks. And the regulation is for 10,000 signatures or more, without checks.

And the VAGOP applied that for Romney and Paul... but not for anyone else.

As for whether it’s whacked out or not, maybe that’s a question everyone ought to be asking the VAGOP...