Posted on 12/21/2011 9:30:51 AM PST by Wolf13
Google "Romney's Mormon problem" and you'll receive thousands of references to what the conventional wisdom says is the Republican presidential candidate's greatest liability among his party's largest voting bloc, religious conservatives.
In the eyes of many Christians, Mitt Romney's Mormon faith is incompatible with Christian theology.
Ironically, however, Romney can reassure skeptical Christian conservatives by stressing his Mormon values. That's because Mormonism is strongly associated with conservative positions on social issues such as abortion and marriage -- the very issues that are the greatest source of doubt about Romney among religious conservatives.
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, Romney has been downplaying his faith for most of his public life. Romney's 2007 "Faith in America" speech was meant to alleviate concerns that his religion would influence his governing.
Clearly, though, much of the public still associates the former Massachusetts governor primarily with his faith.
When the Washington Post and Pew Research Center recently asked a random sample of more than 1,000 Americans what one word they associate with Romney, "Mormon" was cited more than three times as often as any other.
Romney's faith resurfaced as a campaign issue in October when an evangelical pastor supporting Texas Governor Rick Perry declared Mormonism a cult and Romney "a non-Christian."
But religious conservatives' real problem with Romney is not his faith. (In fact, polls suggest Democrats are more likely than Republicans to view Mormonism negatively.) Rather, it's his shifting positions on marriage and the sanctity of human life.
(Excerpt) Read more at spectator.org ...
I agree and this is what the left wants. Two birds with one stone: 1. Vengeance on the Mormons for supporting Proposition 8 in California and 2. A 2nd Term for Obama.
Regards,
TS
A retraction is it, sonny ???
Shall I retract on my objection to Islamic doctrine that kills Christians also ???
and ya did an odd twist of me words there too...
Di ya mean that the Mormon DID indeed get thimselves a bonny law to kill Christians ???
or are ya jest a’sassin’ me as per usual then, sonny ???
and ya accuse others of being in “deep”
Methinks thee is the one in over his head with that false religion called “mormonism”...
But I’ll indulge you..
I’ll play along..
Every Christian was in danger after Joey Smth got his silly self killed in that gunfight/jail break..
The Mormons introduced new blood oaths into their already sick religious rituals...
They swore revenge on the government of the United States for the death of the criminal Joey Smith ...
Remember at that time the Mormons had 5,000 well trained armed to the teeth Islamic type cutthroats in their “army”...the Danites, led by “General” Smith...
while the Uniterd States Army had 8,000 but spread thinly..
The Mormons knew they could easilycut the US Army’s supply lines and pick off the smaller groups of soldiers..
The Mormons in their blood lust rituals also promised they would slit the throat of every non-Moromon..
The terrorist act by the Mormons against 140 Christians on 11 Sept 1857 was part of that blood oath..
The US government had to send in the Army to Utah territory to protect the wagon trains from the murderous thieving Mormons...
But before 1857
and before Joey Smiths ignoble end to his murdering, theiving, womenizing, devil woeshipping days in 1844...
There was the event I aluded to in my previous post...
The one where the Mormons were planning to exterminate every Christian...
The term “extermination” originated with the Mormons...
Sidney Rigdon, first counselor in the First Presidency, had preached his infamous “salt sermon” threatening the dissenters in June. Then on July 4, 1838, he warned that there could be “a war of extermination” against anyone abusing the Mormons.
This was three months prior to the time Boggs issued his order.
LDS historian B. H. Roberts commented on Rigdon’s July 4th speech:
This oration by Sidney Rigdon has always been severely criticized as containing passages that were ill-advised and vehemently bitter. Especially those passages which threatened a war of extermination upon mobs should they again arise to plague the saints (History of the Church, vol. 3, p. 42, footnote).
In his speech, after speaking of the persecution that church members had suffered, Rigdon threatened:
We take God and all the holy angels to witness, this day, that we warn all men, in the name of Jesus Christ to come on us no more for ever, from this hour we will bear it no more; our rights shall no more be trampled on with impunity; the man, or the set of men who attempt it, do it at the expense of their lives. And that mob that comes on us to disturb us, it shall be between us and them a war of extermination; for we will follow them until the last drop of their blood is spilled; or else they will have to exterminate us, for we will carry the seat of war to their own houses and their own families, and one party or the other shall be utterly destroyed. . . . We this day, then, proclaim ourselves free with a purpose and determination that never can be broken, No, never! No, never! No, never! (Comprehensive History of the Church, by B. H. Roberts, vol. 1, p. 441).
B. H. Roberts acknowledged that Joseph Smith himself approved of Rigdon’s speech:
http://www.utlm.org/newsletters/no106.htm
No w2ondewr Gov Boggs felt duty bound to protect the citizens of his state of Missouri from the maurauding Mormons..
In October Gov Boggs ordered the Mormons to cease their criminal activity or leave his state or be arrested...
Many of the Mormons refused to stop their murdering and theiving and raids on the peaceful Christians...
Those of the Mormons who left the religion stayed, settled down and changed their ways and prosperred in Missouri..
Those who refused to obey the laws of MO fled to another state to Illinois and continued their lives of crime amd debauchery..
From there some went to Utah..
Those who left Mormonism. stayed in Illinois again changed their ways ans settled down and prosperred peacefully with the others in the state..
The only time locals were upset with the Mormons was when the Mormons stole from them, murdered them or stole away wives and daughters..
If the Mormons had acted decently in public the locals would have left them in peace to live their immoral lives behind closed doors..
Tadpole: You haven’t even provided one example of Mormons calling for laws to kill Christians throughout the country.
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Nobody said the Mormons did have a law except VanDeKoik
I said the Mormons would have liked a law like that...
Since the Mormons made up their own laws
and their doctrines gave them commandments to do so..
and they had a theocratic government
I guess you could say though that the Mormons had “laws to kill Christians throughout the country.”
You flat out stated "The Mormons would have liked to have a law to kill Christians throughout the country, but they never got one.."
Your crew makes a big deal out of never telling a false statement in your so-called expose of Mormonism. Since I can't call you a liar, I requested either documentation to back that statement up, or a retraction.
Thus far you have provided neither.
“The Mormons would have liked to have a law to kill Christians throughout the country, but they never got one..”
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Tadpole
Dont fret yerself...
The Mormons didnt need one...
They managed without...
They killed Christians anyway...
Law or no law...
Their Mormon gods told em it was alright to do so...
You must have read Saudra Duffy’s thread ‘They Shoot Mormons, Don’t They?’ Milt Rominy is counting on trumping with his Mormon victimhood card. Sadly, too many voters seem tot hink it will work.
I’ll take it, then, that you are ok with lying. Not unexpected, though.
HEY Tadpole !!!
Leave off falsely accusing me for a bit and get your Mormon MegaBucks Inc to send some cash to help someone this Christmas...
There are lots of non-Mormons who need help...
Get back to me after the needs are met out of thise 100s of BILLIONS your religion has pilferred from suckers err members..
Then we’ll pick this up again...
So toodle-oo
and Merry Smithmas..
Thank you much!
Brought back memories of when they wuz young (And not so darned FAT!)
Still waiting for ANYTHING from Resty or Sandy about this!
If you want to play the "falsely accusing" game consider that your original statement falsely accused my entire religion of wanting to have laws that allow the killing of Christians throughout the country. You have refused to demonstrate the accuracy of this claim. We all know why. Changing the subject won't change the fact that your claim is false.
Seems this post was “overlooked” in the kerfuffle...
Oops, sorry, my bad. I “overlooked” that one.
No problem. The threads can get multi-threaded and hard to follow.
When I saw the first white kid I thought it might be an angora...at #53-54 you get a quick glimpse of an angora doe on the right side of the screen...at #100-101 in the middle of the screen back by the fence is an angora male...You can tell them by the way their horns grow. They flare out. When I have talked about my big breeders horns that were 44-46 inches apart, (senile forget the exact inches, but he had to tilt his head to get in one of the barn doors) you get a glimpse of what I meant by seeing that males horns....I LOVED IT AND THANK YOU SO MUCH, PLAYED IT ABOUT 1/2 DOZEN TIMES.... GG
The threads can get multi-threaded and hard to follow.
Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!Sir Walter Scott, Marmion, Canto vi. Stanza 17
Merry Christmas!
May the Light of Christ shine in your life!!
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