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1 posted on 12/16/2011 7:29:59 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

“The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

- Mohandas Gandhi


2 posted on 12/16/2011 7:33:13 AM PST by americanophile ("this absurd theology of an immoral Bedouin, is a rotting corpse which poisons our lives" - Ataturk)
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I care about animals, the environment and many things. But human suffering is the most important to me. Millions are without jobs and being driven out of their homes. Whole families are being thrown out on the streets.

I personal have felt this problem and know many who are suffering it now.

So when people tell me to care about something else more. Well, you can guess what I think.

3 posted on 12/16/2011 7:35:38 AM PST by sr4402
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To: SeekAndFind

OMG.. what a horrible title. I would hope animal suffering did not have a political divide! I would hope all people abhorred any animal suffering....ugh.


4 posted on 12/16/2011 7:36:40 AM PST by Fawn (NEWT FOR PRESIDENT 2012~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, I don’t buy her premise that Conservatives are “indifferent” to animal abuse. If you’re an animal abuser, you’re scum. End of story. That’s a whole deal different from being a meateater. What has gotten into the National Review lately?


5 posted on 12/16/2011 7:37:21 AM PST by ponygirl
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6 posted on 12/16/2011 7:38:17 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SeekAndFind
Animal abuse happens in many ways...case in point - Tucson, Arizona:

To Whom It May Concern,

I recently learned of the possible separation of the two elephants at Reid Park Zoo in order to complete the transfer of a small herd of African elephants currently residing at the San Diego Safari Park(formerly the San Diego Wild Animal Park) to the Reid Park Zoo to begin a breeding program. I worked at the Wild Animal Park as an elephant trainer/keeper for approximately four and one-half years in the mid-eighties working with both the African and Asian herds. I also received my degree in Psychology from San Diego State University. Separating the elephants at Reid Park after approximately thirty years of companionship is both cruel and at the very least bordering on animal abuse. It also shows the obvious lack of knowledge concerning elephant psychology and social structure and the resulting emotional trauma they will go through. I was able to witness first-hand the result of this standard behavior between zoos. In 2003, the last three African elephants that I worked with in San Diego, were transferred from their home of over twenty-five years to the sometimes bitter cold and cramped quarters of the Lincoln Park Zoo in Chicago in order to provide a home for the newly acquired African herd for which the San Diego Zoological Society paid millions to acquire. In just over approximately one and on-half years all three were dead. It was sad to go there weekly and slowly watch them die. Psychological trauma is just as debilitating as physical trauma and any "expert" who tells you differently is lying or just lacking in knowledge. If the Reid Park Zoo continues to proceed with this transfer, I predict that at least one or both of the elephants will die within a short period of time. I urge you to reconsider. The negative response from the public after what tragically happened at the Lincoln Park Zoo was tremendous, resulting in the Zoo formally announcing that they would never house elephants again. The public is much wiser these days and I trust that you will listen to them.

Regards,
x.x. Ryan

The San Diego Zoo is equally guilty in this utter abuse of animals.

7 posted on 12/16/2011 7:39:31 AM PST by yoe
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To: SeekAndFind
Does a dog instinctively love humans ... or does he learn to ?

As I understand it ... animals have no soul, thus no "God conciousness".

So what we interpret with those puppy dog eyes as love is something more associated with feeding and ease rather than an inate love for another kind.

Animals suffer because they know (by learning) to suffer.

Isn't animal suffering more a human problem, i.e. .. a cruel human?

And what are the percentages ?

God gave us animals to eat after the flood, so I think factory chickens and etcetera's are just an efficient way to feed a lot of people ...

Unless that's the hidden agenda ...

Too many people ...get rid of humans.

8 posted on 12/16/2011 7:39:31 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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“As for laboratory animals, I’m willing to leave the moral gray area as a gray area and concentrate on the obvious abuses. Only the obtuse would endorse torturing primates, for example, to do research that serves no higher purpose than to put out a paper no one will ever read establishing for the 50th time that primates don’t seem to like being tortured. I’m more willing to accept sport hunting and medical research on certain animals, under limited circumstances, than I am factory farming. The way the animals are cared for is important, as is the point of the research. That the answers to these questions are difficult, and that our principles come into conflict, does not mean we should shrug at the questions or say that they do not exist.”

Perhaps the best summary I’ve seen on the question. On the whole, an extremely well-reasoned combination of compassion, realism and spiritual component.


11 posted on 12/16/2011 7:41:54 AM PST by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: SeekAndFind

Animal protection is not an issue than can be characterized as conservative or liberal. Just like social issues as a whole are not conservative or liberal, although the “progressive” mantra is that all conservatives are hard hearted. There is nothing conservative or liberal about a budget.

The place to start cutting is not with the weakest and most hapless, don’t cut the social programs and unemployment and animal protection. Fund these programs, they are part of providing for the genera welfare.

Cut graft, corruption, waste, corporate and farm subsidies, the post office, which obviously can’t figure out how to run itself and has become obsolete is a perfect example. Business will bounce back and figure it out. This health care “reform” is actually “deformed” and is adding expenses. Look to the true evils.


12 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:10 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind
This is disguised as heading giving animals the same rights as humans, which sounds Walt Disney sweet.

But it's not about that.

It's about lowering humans to the same level as animals.

That way, if at some point you decide there are too many of them, you can dispose of them.

13 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:42 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruelity against animals in time leads to cruelity against humans.


14 posted on 12/16/2011 7:43:42 AM PST by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: SeekAndFind

We are to be stewards of the earth, of course we should care about the treatment of animals and the environment.
God gave us animals to use not abuse.
He gave us the earth to use not abuse.
Our primary (after our relationship with God) concern however should be towards each other.


19 posted on 12/16/2011 7:48:14 AM PST by svcw (God's Grace - thank you!)
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God put animals here for three reasons: To feed us, to do our work, and to entertain us. If you deliberately mistreat them, they don’t taste as good, don’t work as hard, and terrorize rather than entertain.


26 posted on 12/16/2011 7:54:03 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: SeekAndFind

Numbers 22 (KJV) gives an indication of what G*D thinks of people who abuse animals(or ANY weaker being).


27 posted on 12/16/2011 7:54:31 AM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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36 posted on 12/16/2011 8:08:47 AM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I love animals and cannot bear to see them suffer.


38 posted on 12/16/2011 8:12:04 AM PST by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Stupid article, written by a liberal nut.

Anti-hunting, anti-farming, liberal BS!

41 posted on 12/16/2011 8:13:12 AM PST by Beagle8U (Free Republic -- One stop shopping ....... It's the Conservative Super WalMart for news .)
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To: SeekAndFind

Should liberals?


44 posted on 12/16/2011 8:14:17 AM PST by onedoug (lf)
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“Should conservatives care about animal suffering?”

Only if it makes them more tender.


48 posted on 12/16/2011 8:23:54 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you really want to annoy someone, point out something obvious that they are trying hard to ignore)
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I've not yet noticed that anyone who cares for animals is diminished in his capacity to care for humans.

Caring for the welfare of animals does not imply a lack of care for humans, but nor should it lead one to presume the opposite. Up to the moment he tested his cyanide capsules on the poor beast Adolph Hitler absolutely loved his dog.

And one noticeable theme of today's watermelon Green movement is that while adoring (in a pagan religious sense) nature they openly advocate the elimination of mankind (except, of course, their enlightened selves) from the face of Mother Gaia. Show me a radical Green and I'll show you the perfect little Fascist.

50 posted on 12/16/2011 8:28:55 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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