I've been waiting since I came to FR for this moment...!!
8 years >.<
Kirk, be gone..
Posted on 12/10/2011 3:53:36 PM PST by mnehring
I’ve been waiting for quite a while for Ron Paul to just come out and admit he’s a 9/11 truther. Frankly, I thought it would happen a long time before now. It has taken so long, in fact, that I had started to doubt whether he would ever do it. However, I guess his Iowa polling numbers must have him feeling his oats, because he finally let slip (apologies to those who cannot view the video in IE, we are working to fix the technical issue. Original video may be found here):
And it’s… just think of what happened after 9/11. Immediately, before there was any assessment, there was glee in the administration because now we can invade Iraq. So the war drums beat…
Perfect. Just great. Remember that the less crazy truthers out there don’t get bogged down in scientific nonsense like “fire can’t melt steel.” They don’t necessarily believe that the Bush administration actually put bombs in the WTC to help it come down (although they’re not precisely ruling it out). What they DO believe is that the U.S. government was warned by the Israelis/Saudis/French/whoever that the attacks were coming and deliberately ignored it because they wanted 9/11 to happen so they could go to war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Ron Paul has now moved from saying that 9/11 was our fault (which was despicable enough) to now saying that it’s something our government actually wanted to happen. Put this up there with Ron Paul’s belief that Southeast Asia got much better after we left Vietnam (a viewpoint doubtless shared by millions of massacred Southeast Asians – but hey, at least we trade with Vietnam now) on the all time list of Ron Paul’s contemptible and publicly-expressed beliefs. Add to this the fact that Ron Paul is a liar and a hypocrite on spending, who has built a career larding up appropriations bills with pork for his home district and then casting meaningless votes against their final passage, and I have to confess that I don’t really see the appeal of Ron Paul to Iowa voters. Well, the Republican ones, at least.
There is probably a website sponsored by them that will shed more light on what they believe.
Love the Pac Man thing. Pac Man was actually my nick name shortly following my Army ETS.
Nice to see you out here.
Hope that all is well. I have been away for a while.
Ron Paul. Everyones crazy uncle.
Iraq was like a killing field in a way, it drew out the extremists from all over the middle east and we fought them on foreign soil instead of here. In that single regard the invasion worked like a charm, it may have solidified some support for Al Qaeda against us but it did far more good than harm. Where we blew it was after the invasion was of course not having enough troops in country and disbanding their military too quickly. I know its not a popular belief, but I still think we should have tuned north and toppled Iran's leaders also. Yes the world would have been pissed had we done so, but in the political atmosphere after 9/11 had we moved quicker and with more force the world would be in a much better place right now.
Hindsight is always 20/20...
Iraq was like a killing field in a way, it drew out the extremists from all over the middle east and we fought them on foreign soil instead of here. In that single regard the invasion worked like a charm, it may have solidified some support for Al Qaeda against us but it did far more good than harm. Where we blew it was after the invasion was of course not having enough troops in country and disbanding their military too quickly. I know its not a popular belief, but I still think we should have tuned north and toppled Iran's leaders also. Yes the world would have been pissed had we done so, but in the political atmosphere after 9/11 had we moved quicker and with more force the world would be in a much better place right now.
Hindsight is always 20/20...
Iraq was like a killing field in a way, it drew out the extremists from all over the middle east and we fought them on foreign soil instead of here. In that single regard the invasion worked like a charm, it may have solidified some support for Al Qaeda against us but it did far more good than harm. Where we blew it was after the invasion was of course not having enough troops in country and disbanding their military too quickly. I know its not a popular belief, but I still think we should have tuned north and toppled Iran's leaders also. Yes the world would have been pissed had we done so, but in the political atmosphere after 9/11 had we moved quicker and with more force the world would be in a much better place right now.
Hindsight is always 20/20...
You might be surprised to know how much more tempered it really is. Go ahead and check it out firsthand.
There are those who should be shown the door.....and I will be more than happy to hold it open for them....
Captain Kirk was definitely on that list. His personality was even more repulsive than mine, and that’s saying quite a bit.
Good man?
He was a moron who couldn’t take a hint.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2818714/posts?page=17#17
Take it up with the site owner if you want.
Radix, old man, welcome back! Haven’t seen you in a god’s age!
Yeah, there is too many things going against him...for me to ever support him...even against Obama, I would think of not voting for him. Then again that’s really close...
He’s more of a libertarian with oddly liberal like views.
What?....is this supposed to be an insult, a flame or are you just so dumb you can't click on my profile and see I'm still here?
No, he ruins it for me for borderline saying we’re to blame for 9/11 and that perhaps our government was happy or took part in it...either or is horrible.
The way he presents his views and what he truly believes is the problem. I didn’t believe in going into Iraq, unlike many here. That’s not a bad view. But once you enter, you must stabilize and you must keep Israel and any real democracy interest at hand. We’re not alone...that view died long before Pearl Harbor. And like it or not, we have to be the world police when it comes to real bad guys. Of coarse I don’t think we should be overly involved where we shouldn’t, that government ought to be as small as possible, ...his fundamental beliefs aren’t flawed. It’s his delivery and zealotry.
He represents a wing of the republican party and in some sense we must align domestically...but foreign policy wise. I think he ought to say prudence is key and avoidance of such past policies...but don’t be left of the liberals!?
no. Ron paul is an idiot with foreign affairs but he has very good points as far as spending that no other politician talks about.
Saddam was secular? How can Saddam be secular and use FATWA's for jihads at the same time?
Answer: can not
Where did you get that crazy idea that he was secular?
He was a cynical, manipulative dictator who understood how to motivate followers of Islam and used them to do his dirty work. He himself was very decadent and westernized, as were his sons. If it could be said that he had a religion at all it would not have been Islam, he may have been Zoroastrian. He was attempting to restore ancient Babylon.
He was Muslim the way Obama is Christian. When it suited him, he was a muzzy.
Iraq, for all of Hussien’s craziness, was not an Islamic state.
Lots of reasons to get rid of the guy...but his fatwas (if there were many) were a joke to get the fundamentalists to support him against us.
Well, off to fell Trollhenge with his disintegrated bytes! I shall honor his passing by depositing a golden shower of remembrance in the porcelain alter.
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