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Perry Says No to Trump
Time ^ | December 8, 2011 | Mark Halperin, The Page

Posted on 12/08/2011 10:42:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Texas topper declines invitation to real-estate-mogul-hosted Dec. 27 NewsMax debate.

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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think this is a good move. This ‘debate’ is not going to anything more than another Trump reality show where all the participants are used by the Donald to make him lool more important that he really is. Donald’s said he’ll endorse one of the participants after the debate and if that candidate doesn’t win he’ll consider a run as a 3rd party candidate. No self respecting Republican should be a party to that. Who the hell is he to hold a 3rd party run over our heads like that?


41 posted on 12/08/2011 11:07:34 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: annieokie
a Trump reality show.

Yep. And that's one of the main reasons I think this is a bad idea for the party. A large audience would only multiply the error.

42 posted on 12/08/2011 11:07:59 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think this is a good move. This ‘debate’ is not going to be anything more than another Trump reality show where all the participants are used by the Donald to make him look more important that he really is. Trump has said he’ll endorse one of the participants after the debate and if that candidate doesn’t win he’ll consider a run as a 3rd party candidate. No self respecting Republican should be a party to that. Who the hell is he to hold a 3rd party run over our heads like that?


43 posted on 12/08/2011 11:08:17 AM PST by pgkdan ("Make what Americans buy, Buy what Americans make, and sell it to the world" Perry 2012)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Good for Bachmann.


44 posted on 12/08/2011 11:08:32 AM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: ilgipper

huge mistake for Perry.

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Wrong. This Newt/Trump love-fest/debate is already a running joke.

WHY would anyone give Trump the time of day?


45 posted on 12/08/2011 11:08:32 AM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Considering his implosion from debates, I have to say this is a good move.

It doesn’t help Perry, but at least it won’t hurt him.


46 posted on 12/08/2011 11:09:12 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper (1/3/2012-Iowa 1/10-Newt Hampshire 1/21-South Carolina 1/31-Florida)
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To: corbe

All three conservatives....I can go for that!


47 posted on 12/08/2011 11:09:40 AM PST by caww
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To: Prokopton

Trump’s pretty damn egotistical, I think they are all afraid he will demand they agree with his positions. Of course he can be finessed, but Perry is not a finesser.


48 posted on 12/08/2011 11:10:03 AM PST by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Williams
he probably figures he can’t stand up to ridicule from Trump.

That crossed my mind, too. He may figure that Trump is going to throw some real challenging questions, and Perry hasn't even really dealt with the standard ones too well.

49 posted on 12/08/2011 11:10:49 AM PST by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
No. This was smart.

The Donald is holding this “debate” for self- aggrandizement. He can’t get enough of it.

But that would only be a smart move on Perry's part if he can't successfully debate an aging financier gas bag with a potty mouth and bimbo eruptions. Surely Perry could...

Never mind, good move for Perry to slink away from the challenge.

50 posted on 12/08/2011 11:11:06 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
At least Perry loves his country—that’ more than we can say for Trump.

I wasn't aware Trump was calling for the destruction of the United States. Maybe I missed something. When the Frontrunner of the race is showing up to a sparsely attended debate, that would be an excellent time to show up and shine. Winners take every opportunity to win, not slink out of the room like Mittens and Huntsman.

51 posted on 12/08/2011 11:12:45 AM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Why would a serious candidate sit down at a “debate” with a “moderator” who is considering a 3rd party run?”

For the same reasons that a serious candidate would sit down at multiple “debates” with “moderators” who are their absolute political enemies!!


52 posted on 12/08/2011 11:13:00 AM PST by Batman11 (Obama's poll numbers are so low the Kenyans are claiming he was born in the USA!)
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To: Williams
....Perry is not a finesser.

Rick Perry is the sitting governor of a state with 25,000,000 people and the 13th largest economy in the world.

He deals in results.

53 posted on 12/08/2011 11:13:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ilgipper
Huge mistake for Perry.... This might be his only opening yet to make a comeback...putting together a decent performance in a debate sure to get lots of attention. Also, it will be a different fell from other debates where he has fallen woefully short.

I agree....but I've questioned right along if Perry really wants the Presidency. My opinion is he doesn't, he loves being governor of Texas and I don't think he's going to have a comeback for that...he fought the good fight for whoever thought he should run..but i don't think his heart is in it.

54 posted on 12/08/2011 11:13:55 AM PST by caww
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“No. This was smart.

The Donald is holding this “debate” for self- aggrandizement. He can’t get enough of it.”

Huge mistake by Perry.

And you know it.


55 posted on 12/08/2011 11:16:02 AM PST by wolficatZ ("You might think yer a comedian, but yer not funny.")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A “Trump debate” is headed in the wrong direction.

Huckabee is on the right track. Having the Attorneys General asking specific questions about current and proposed legislation, and more importantly, how it effects the individual states, is far more enlightening than the idiotic questions most “journalists” come up with.

I've never been a huge fan of Huckabee, but during the last presidential debates, he was saddled with some of the most absurd and condescending questions asked.

I still think a variation of “Question Time” would be the best debate format for primaries. One at a time, have each candidate face a crowd of current friendly and hostile legislators peppering the candidate with specific questions about legislation they're proposing. It would eliminate candidates who try to get away with just using the currently correct buzzwords.

Campaign promises are great, but proving they could be implemented would boost the candidate's credibility and electability.

56 posted on 12/08/2011 11:16:42 AM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: annieokie
Exactly right. Think about all the people who would never watch a regular debate, but who will watch a Trump reality show. This will be a good forum to finally get to those people.

This is the proper way to look at this - any face time these guys can get without the liberal media filter is good.

The only problem I have is Trump's threat to go third party, but I don't think Trump would be foolish enough to pull any crap.

57 posted on 12/08/2011 11:18:17 AM PST by skeeter
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To: shield

That photo looks too much like Romney, which is what I thought when it crossed the thread.


58 posted on 12/08/2011 11:18:32 AM PST by caww
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To: shield

That photo looks too much like Romney, which is what I thought when it crossed the thread.


59 posted on 12/08/2011 11:18:43 AM PST by caww
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Newt has no organization in Iowa, he thinks he can win the nomination through debates not through retail politics. He has spent spit in Iowa and Iowans do not think kindly of that. Newt's only outlet are the debates, you'll not see Newtie pass up any debate. [Newties professor type lecturing in those debates is growing very old.]
60 posted on 12/08/2011 11:18:50 AM PST by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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