Posted on 11/09/2011 7:48:07 PM PST by God luvs America
STATE COLLEGE -- More than a thousand Penn State students are moving between the campus and downtown, chanting in support of football coach Joe Paterno, whose job has been questioned over his handling of sex-abuse allegations involving a former coach.
Crowds began to gather around 10 p.m. on Beaver Avenue. After police in riot gear told them to move along, the students moved to Old Main. They sang the alma mater, professed their love for Paterno and profanely denounced Sandusky. They pointed toward Penn State president Graham Spanier's still-lit office. Then, after a brief "back to Beaver" chant, the crowd returned to Beaver Avenue.
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These are America’s future leaders, folks. Aren’t we so proud of them?
These kids are still better than the worst generation in history, the Baby Boomers. Now those folks are a bunch of idiots from practically day one. I would be proud to be today’s college kid than a Baby boomer idiot. They ruined every thing they touched and still destroying America. I am not a boomer or today’s college kid. Just remember the boomers made a life of protesting. Never seen a worse group of people!!!!!
This student support for Paterno has been one of the most depressing things I have seen.
We’ve been pretty effective in the modern world at compartmentalizing personal morality and ethics and declaring that they have absolutely nothing to do with a person’s “real” life (coaching football, engaging in politics, etc.). This is particularly true if sex is involved: suddenly, it’s all “just about sex” and no matter how creepy or cruel the behavior was (or the lying to cover it up), criticism is off-limits.
Then we go into parsing phrases: what the meaning of “is” is, whether something technically constituted harrassment or was “just a crude pass” by a married man, exactly what level of authority Paterno was supposed to have reported Sandusky to in order to meet the requirements of the law, etc.
The thing that is appalling is that our entire society, young and old, liberal and conservative, seems to feel this way now and is even proud to proclaim that they no longer care about personal behavior and morality and honor.
I think part of the “rush to judgment” is that folks are reacting to an apparent decade-old cover-up. Along with that might be a feeling “the good old boys network” could leave the child molester AND his enablers untouchable even in the criminal justice system. How will they find a jury? Query them on their allegiances to college teams?
Heartening! Thanks.
When they gave a known rapist and an admitted abuser of women eight years at the controls of the country, this is what we get. A country unable to decipher what doing the right thing actually means.
We will continue to reap Bill Clinton’s and the democrats gifts of immorality for many generations.
Ship all college stoogedents off to Afghanistan and make them beg to be brought back to this country, where they would finally appreciate what they had. It would take about 4 hours.
Instead of an evidentiary hearing, a Grand Jury determined there was enough evidence to proceed to trial.
According to the Grand Jury report, testimony to the Grand Jury occurred between January and April of 2011. That means investigations occurred prior to that.
In the case of a felony where a Grand Jury decides if there is enough evidence to proceed to trial (true bill of indictment), the next step is the DA submits the Grand Jury findings to a judge in court, and if the judge concurs, the judge dockets the case, and issues any required bench warrants for the arrest of the accused, or summons if arrest is not deemed necessary.
That apparently had to have been done for warrant to be issued to arrest Sandusky.
The standard that individuals use in validating the characters of other people is not so high as that which the state is required to use when prosecuting criminals. Suppose your child came home and told you that he had been fondled by his soccer coach? Are you going to apply the legal standard of "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" to determine whether your son should continue to participate on that coach's soccer team? Of course not. You have a right and an obligation to evaluate that person's character based on the facts you have on hand. So far as his actually suffering criminal or other official sanctions for the alleged conduct, that falls under the higher standard.
I concur.
Herman Cain's support is holding strong in the face of a total media blitz.
Even Michael Moore call the media 'punks' and that they lie. They lie to Moore's benefit, so why Moore would bring this up is puzzling.
The point is simply that the far left has contempt for the media. No one, NO ONE likes the media or will support them.
Mine is really looking forward to Thanksgiving break. At least no tests till then.
Goooooood morning!!
Are you still morally bankrupt?
I read one mother, who had TWO sons victimized by Sandusky, said she noticed her son’s experiencing behavior and personality changes, and ‘acting out.’ She reported to his school where the facts came out; the school contacted some local authority.
Absolutely. Clinton lowered the bar about as far as it could go, and the media’s tolerance and even enthusiasm for Clinton no matter what gave a very strong message that all those traditional personal values and virtues - ranging from chastity to truthfulness, honor and respect - were just irrelevant things from the past. I guess these kids are just a logical product of that attitude.
it sickens me to see students rioting over a football coach being fired and not rioting that their school had a guy molesting kids.
It sickens me that some who are not students but on the radio, TV are pissed off he got fired but ignore the fact kids were molested by a homosexual man.
Kids who have to live with that for all of their life but no lets get pissed off a football coach got fired.
This just shows how America has lost her social skills, lost all sense of decorum, it is sick .
Your last paragraph is right on the money, left, right, liberal, so called conservative have just shown their sick ignorance and morality.
Now will they find the DA who was ?
You honestly can’t see how far out in left field you are, can you? If we really did things the way you think we do them (and we do not) then all those teachers in the news for diddling their students would be teaching up until the day of their convictions. We do not, have not, and we are not going to start doing things the way you mistakenly think we’ve done them. Your idea of the American way, ain’t.
That’s my concern - can these children be helped - really helped. Each one, of course, reacts differently to events and maybe the one not acting out may need some help - if it’s possible.
I just finished reading the Grand Jury report. What a mess - my heart goes out to these boys - it not easy to read without feeling compassionate and hatred at the same time. I was shocked to find he was married and found it out half way through the report and he has children. It’s an unreal story - happening almost out in the open and no one has eyes to see.
The very last paragraph mentions a temporary worker saw him in action and was visible shaken his coworkers thought he was going to have a heart attack. And guess what - that temp worker is now in a nursing home with dementia. I don’t think rocket science is needed to see this man turned off his own mind - he was so traumatized by what he saw. Everyone reacts differently, we never know at what point these boys will manifest whatever. How one pervert can cause so much destruction but satan came to kill, rob and destroy.
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