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OK "IF(and I mean BIG IF)" Herman Cain pulls out wins in IA, NH and SC...
09 Nov 2011 | US Navy Vet

Posted on 11/09/2011 12:11:28 PM PST by US Navy Vet

...then WHAT will the GOP Establishment do next?Any Predictions?


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; chat; establishment; gop; hermancain; vanity
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I wouldn’t worry about head to head matchups with Zero yet. Whoever wins the nomination, no matter who it is, will get a huge bump with the media coverage. Then there will be the conventions and the debates... not to mention we don’t know what the enthusiasm gap will be. Head to head matchups are completely worthless until at least September 2012. Romney may be the strongest now on the hypotheticals, but I don’t imagine he’ll stir up much enthusiasm.


61 posted on 11/09/2011 12:57:40 PM PST by wolfman23601
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62 posted on 11/09/2011 12:58:28 PM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Wrong, loser..

It’s Iowa + South Carolina = Nomination

And that’s ALL that matters for Cain!

SC since 1980 has determined our nominee and also led to a Florida win. Face it, if Romney loses those early three states (IA, SC, FL) it’s curtains in Rombot Land.


63 posted on 11/09/2011 1:00:15 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Wrong, loser..

It’s Iowa + South Carolina = Nomination

And that’s ALL that matters for Cain!

SC since 1980 has determined our nominee and also led to a Florida win. Face it, if Romney loses those early three states (IA, SC, FL) it’s curtains in Rombot Land.


64 posted on 11/09/2011 1:00:24 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: CainConservative

Your scenario is certainly possible. I know from past primaries how quickly it can go from boom to bust for any given candidate. There are too many factors to accurately predict how it will go.


65 posted on 11/09/2011 1:00:30 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
Scott Rasmussen came on Fox News the last hour to tout Florida with Cain UP 6-11 over Willard and Newt -- and said "Cain has lost NO support."
66 posted on 11/09/2011 1:03:44 PM PST by CainConservative
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To: US Navy Vet

At that point they will either fold or lose everything they got on a losing hand, I prefer they lose, and we get some new players in the game.


67 posted on 11/09/2011 1:04:28 PM PST by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: BenKenobi

SC and FL demographics are very different. Using your reasoning one could say that the FL poll is an outlier. An outlier is not determinable until there are other polls published covering the same general time period and same locale.


68 posted on 11/09/2011 1:07:51 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: CainConservative
God Bless the Florida GOP voters that were polled.

Shame on the women nationally who have withdrew support of Cain with ZERO evidence of wrongdoing and proven to be shady accusers.

If one supports another GOP candidate, fine. But to bail on Cain over this blatant and evil hit job is pathetic
69 posted on 11/09/2011 1:09:32 PM PST by over3Owithabrain
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To: CainConservative
LOL! Ok, so now I am a “loser”, well I have been called worse, but give me an example, of how you know this. And start with my Military service record and professional Oil industry career. I would really like to know myself.

But I digress, in regards the polls, look back at 2008, when the “sure winner” of the nomination was Rudy Giuliani at this stage of the campaign. It was a “Sure” thing Giuliani would take it early, especially in the South, including Florida. We all know how that one turned out, unless you recently graduated High School and were not much into elections.

70 posted on 11/09/2011 1:09:42 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: Quicksilver

SC is a lot blacker and more Christian than Florida. One would think that would play in Cain’s favor. My biggest concern about Florida is Rubio endorsing Romney at the last minute. I hope that doesn’t happen, but my gut tells me it will.


71 posted on 11/09/2011 1:13:30 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: CainConservative

We will see how it all plays out in the coming weeks. These things develop over time, not instant messaging.

People have to talk about it first, and there sure is MUCH to talk about isn’t there? We are up to 5 so far. Will there be more?


72 posted on 11/09/2011 1:13:48 PM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP (If you come to a fork in the road, take it........)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

Right. Also, a shift or a trend usually shows in a national poll before it shows in state polls. What I’m seeing is that Cain has mostly lost support among women and independents. He hasn’t lost much support among his base, which is why he still leads in most primary polls.


73 posted on 11/09/2011 1:18:07 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: Quicksilver

The poll doesn’t include leaners. So they are artificially suppressing the Cain numbers. Neat trick.


74 posted on 11/09/2011 1:23:10 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Quicksilver

Yes, their demographics are different, except for the fact that EVERY OTHER Poll has had Cain stronger in SC than FL.


75 posted on 11/09/2011 1:24:04 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: wolfman23601

I would guess that most SC blacks are Democrat, so that probably wouldn’t help or hurt Cain. I don’t recall, is SC an open primary? If so, that will be a factor.

Yeah, Rubio could be the one to tip the nomination, much like Crist did for McCain.


76 posted on 11/09/2011 1:24:23 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: wolfman23601

Every other poll has had Cain stronger in SC than in FL.

If the same company polls both using the same method, Cain comes out stronger in SC than FL.

This company is using a different sampling method, which has produced an outlier. We’d expect, if they polled Florida to see Cain down 10.


77 posted on 11/09/2011 1:25:33 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: 7beuties
IA, NH and SC, he would have it nearly wrapped up at that point, wouldn’t he?

If they were all winner-take-all, as in 2008, maybe.

But they now allocate delegates proportional to the vote. Meaning that these three states probably won't settle anything.

78 posted on 11/09/2011 1:30:48 PM PST by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Quicksilver

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1955044/posts

It is an open primary.


79 posted on 11/09/2011 1:33:02 PM PST by wolfman23601
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To: BenKenobi

The one thing that makes the Clemson SC poll hard to compare is it was taken over 12 days, beginning before Politico first published their garbage. The poll is essentially an average of voter sentiment during the media circus.


80 posted on 11/09/2011 1:35:01 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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