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Utility company PROHIBITING illegal immigrants from obtaining electric, gas, water
Daily Mail ^ | 8th November 2011 | Nina Golgowski

Posted on 11/08/2011 1:25:49 PM PST by moonshinner_09

Utility company PROHIBITING illegal immigrants from obtaining electric, gas, water or sewer service in Alabama...

A major utilities company in Alabama is now prohibiting illegal immigrants from receiving electricity, gas, water or wastewater services to heated reactions on both sides, but they're just following the law.

The Decatur Utilities company is now one of many in the state that follows the newly signed immigration law which prohibits business with illegal immigrants in the state or its subdivisions.

'We did not [originally] document or confirm whether or not they were citizens or aliens here legally,' Stephen Pirkle, Decatur business manager and chief financial officer told the Decatur 'Because of the new law, we are now going through the process to confirm that they are either a citizen or an alien here legally. If not, we will deny them service,' he added.

Section 30 of the Beason-Hammon Alabama Taxpayer and Citizen Protection Act, signed into law on June 9th of this year, will make it a felony offense, encouraging businesses like Decatur Utilities, with over 30,000 customers, to check customer's citizenship before service.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: al; alie; aliens; electricity; garbage; gas; heating; illegalaliens; immigration; trashcollection; utlities; water
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To: Clay Moore

I rented a house in the country years ago and the guy down the road about a half mile had peacocks I had never heard one. First time one cut loose I thought a child was being hurt.


21 posted on 11/08/2011 1:51:53 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: BenKenobi

You’ve got a good point. Unfortunately, the feds aren’t doing it(in fact they are fighting against enforcing the immigration laws)so someone’s got to pick up the slack.


22 posted on 11/08/2011 1:55:00 PM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: Grunthor
God Bless my town, over the last few months the results of the new law have been amazing. We were absolutely inundated with illegals, and know it's down to spotting a hand-full a day.
23 posted on 11/08/2011 1:55:22 PM PST by Arkansas Tider (Army EOD)
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To: BenKenobi

“If the utility is going to do this, then they need to make absolutely sure that they don’t cut anyone off unless they are right.”

Agreed.

“I also don’t see why it’s the utility’s job to care about citizenship.”

Well SOMEBODY has to.


24 posted on 11/08/2011 1:55:28 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: 21twelve; BenKenobi

I think this may be an “unintended consequence” of the law. I suppose the law is for companies to run a background check and fill out the proper form for checking citizenship (already the Federal law!!??). And to make it against the law to hire the illegals standing outside of Home Depot to suppliment your roofing crew. (Still against Federal law).

This seems like a lot of hassle and cost to the utility company, and will just get passed on to the customers. And no doubt it will still have problems. Rental units owned by a citizen but rented by illegals, fake documents, etc.

Hmmm - does this mean Home Depot can’t sell a leaf blower to an illegal? It would seem so.


25 posted on 11/08/2011 1:56:44 PM PST by 21twelve ("We can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust....and another lost generation.")
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To: Arkansas Tider

I grew up in a small town that was....”vanilla” in hue. I went into the Army after graduation. Came home after a 4 year hitch and thought I’d been mistakenly dropped off in Mexico City.

I also live close to the border. The CANADIAN Border.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 1:57:22 PM PST by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: BenKenobi
(>Why should a citizen, and a free man pay a fee to work?

Because the IRS has guns? And the State will fine you $10,000 for working the trades without a licence? Because we are not free?

America turned from God, and became the land of the fee and the home of the knave.

27 posted on 11/08/2011 2:00:43 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Imagine that, denying services to criminals. What is the world coming to?


28 posted on 11/08/2011 2:02:48 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: BenKenobi
Because they are abiding by the law. Decatur Utilities is municipally owned, like all utilities in North Alabama, and thus is a subdivision of the State of Alabama.

Section 30(b) An alien not lawfully present in the United States shall not enter into or attempt to enter into a business transaction with the state or a political subdivision of the state and no person shall enter into a business transaction or attempt to enter into a business transaction on behalf of an alien not lawfully present in the United States.
29 posted on 11/08/2011 2:03:11 PM PST by FreetheMarkets
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To: EGPWS

Actually the beltway pols that ignore the rule of law deserve exactly the same treatment.


30 posted on 11/08/2011 2:04:06 PM PST by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: 21twelve

>>>Hmmm - does this mean Home Depot can’t sell a leaf blower to an illegal? It would seem so.

You raise an interesting question. Does one have to carry a birth certificate or passport with them to confirm citizenship status when they get their haircut or dine at a restaurant?


31 posted on 11/08/2011 2:04:12 PM PST by NC28203
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To: moonshinner_09

So...do they plan on having all their existing customers provide proof that they are here legally and require the same from all new customers? Otherwise how else will they know?


32 posted on 11/08/2011 2:06:03 PM PST by SoJoCo
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To: NC28203

Man - what a hassle. Perhaps they could come up with a tattoo or something?

Reminds me - as a small business owner, I think it is this upcoming year that for any CUMULATIVE $600 or more spent I will need to fill our some tax form to send to the person/company/store and one to the gov’t. This includes all of those bits and pieces that add up at the hardware store, etc. I wonder if hotels count? I suppose so.


33 posted on 11/08/2011 2:12:50 PM PST by 21twelve ("We can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust....and another lost generation.")
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To: Grunthor

You can bet Holder will be on this in a flash - can’t be letting any harm come to those illegal immigrants on Obama’s watch!


34 posted on 11/08/2011 2:13:39 PM PST by SusaninOhio
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To: FreetheMarkets

So there are no private run/owned utility companies? That’s not a good thing for Alabama.

They’d better get it right. Any screwups are going to kill that law.


35 posted on 11/08/2011 2:14:35 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: SoJoCo

That apparently seems to be the plan. “Papers please” to keep your lights on.

Can’t see any possibility for abuse there.


36 posted on 11/08/2011 2:15:56 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: American in Israel

“Because we are not free?”

Exactly so. We are not free men, but slaves.


37 posted on 11/08/2011 2:19:00 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: 21twelve
Just to clear things up as I understand them. The only affect the Beason-Hammond Act has on private business is that they must use e-verify on all their employees. If that business fails to do so, the enforcement mechanism is the suspension/revocation of the business license. Any private business may conduct everyday transactions with an illegal just like a citizen. The difference is that Decatur Utilities is owned by the City of Decatur, a political subdivision of the State of Alabama. Now I may be missing something or misinformed, but I think that is right.

Congress repealed the 1099 requirement that was in Obamacare; I think it was in the compromise legislation that extended the Bush tax cuts for two more years, happened at the end of last year.
38 posted on 11/08/2011 2:20:31 PM PST by FreetheMarkets
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To: BenKenobi

There are down in Central and Lower Alabama, Southern Company is the main one. We have municipally owned utilities up here because we can buy cheap (subsidized somewhat) power from TVA.


39 posted on 11/08/2011 2:22:26 PM PST by FreetheMarkets
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To: Grunthor

Constitutionally, it’s the job of the Federal government. Obama needs to do his job rather than pawning it off on everybody else.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 2:24:53 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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