Posted on 10/29/2011 11:57:20 AM PDT by yoe
KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- NATO says the 13 people killed when a suicide bomber rammed a military convoy in Kabul included five coalition troops and eight civilian contractors.
NATO initially reported that all 13 killed were service members. But after further identification, it confirmed that eight were civilians working for the coalition.
A U.S. official says all were Americans, but Canadian defense spokesperson Lt. Col. Christian Lemay told The Associated Press that a Canadian soldier was among the troopers killed. Canadian military officials have not yet released the soldier's identity or further details.
The Taliban suicide bomber hit an armored NATO bus Saturday in the deadliest attack on coalition forces in Kabul since the war began.
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Our enemy does a great job manipulating public opinion.
Destroy the enemy or get out. Our soldiers are not security guards.
V/E Day only occurred due to Hirohito breaking a tie and surrendering.
Those were fanatics who believed the Emperor was God.
These fanatics believe that by killing the infidels they get 72 virgins. By being police men in Afghanistan, I don't see that we will be changing minds.
Didn't work out for the early missionaries when the US West was settled. They were chopped up and their remains were thrown around in celebration. It took wiping out their villages before the killing of missionaries stopped.
Remove all ROE, go on the offensive and root the Taliban and any AQ around out of their holes with every means available. No one respects weakness, everyone respects strength. This enemy will stand down when faced with an insurmountable force. And that is what they need to see.
Well said.
At the time I supported what we were doing, it was an honorable thing to do. But you can't take a country of cavemen and drag them (many kicking and screaming) into the 21st century.
In retrospect, all parties may have been better served sending a few nukes to well selected sites, speaking the language of strength, fear, and vengeance which the muslim understands.
Hypocrites, every one of them.
0pres released any statement yet?
Hear here!
It’s all about China, Iran, and Africa. Thanks yoe.
You left out two more supporters of OWS.
David Duke
And Ahmindinijad
Birds of a feather.
People have no conception of war. You either fight to ‘WIN’ or you don’t. It’s that simple. We are not fighting to WIN, we are fighting to save the local’s assess - and I have a major problem with that. Many people have been brainwashed by Bush and Co. that we are fighting “terrorism”, well that’s a bunch of B.S. to sell a bill of goods. If that’s the case, then WHY THE HELL aren’t we fighting in Iran? in Cuba? (90 miles away). Those bastards have been promoting and giving arms to terrorists for the past 30 years. Bring our best and finest home. Put them on the southern border to actually do some good.
LOL!!! I was basically called anti-US military by a so called FReeper who I've never seen in my life for saying the same thing my quote was, "you question my patriotism, I will eviscerate yours." So far silence.
According to this tool, if you are not a member of the military you have no say, even though my grandfather fought in the Royal Airforce in the Battle of Britain, my father fought in Vietnam and I have USAA Insurance which I think is only for folks related to the military.
I've lost friends to the WOT, have current friends who are "brothers" in Afghanistan, (but according to this FReeper who thinks he's a Medal of Honor winner, says you must be in the military to feel for those who died on the battlefield)
For this FReeper I'd like to see him tossed into the middle of Wazirastan, tell me how wonderful Barry is and how awesome Pakistan and Hamid Karzi are. I would pray for that. Because I know how generous the Taliban are towards Americans.
This bastard told me I was a traitor to the USA because I did not support Barack Obama as Commander in Chief, well folks I met Barry in 2005 when he was my Senator his closest adviser to combat was Bill Ayers when he bombed the Pentagon. So FReepers please, tell Future Snake Eater who claims to be Mr. Medal of Honor that Barry is not a good CIC. Wait sorry, Future Snake Eater will tell you, you hate the military, are anti-American, and are evil.
Future Snake Eater, believes you MUST SERVE IN THE MILITARY UNDER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA to have an opinion and if that opinion is NEGATIVE you are ANTI-AMERICAN
So to good ole FReeper Medal of Honor, Purple Heart, Freedom Medal winner Future Snake Eater please tell those of us who aren't in the military who have lost family and friends to this war that we are anti-American.
Future Snake Eater, tell us about Major Hassan, he was in the military and wait, according to your logic he is a hero!!!
Fellow FReepers, there are folks who were in Vietnam who joined the anti-war movement, for simpletons just watch "Forrest Gump". For current FReepers do a search of Future Snake Eater's posts. He is a FReeper who like the snake in Eden wants to sow doubt in the minds of all. If anyone on God's green earth was due for a zot it would be this POS!!! If I could bribe a ZOT I would, but the owner of this website has much more moral scruples than Future Snake Eater who supports his CIC, Comrade Barack Obama.
But I bet Future Snake Eater never met Comrade Obama in 2005 like I did, when I warned this website he'd be President if we didn't act.
So Future Snake Eater, show your medal of honor, hell even a purple heart and maybe I'll give you an ounce of respect, but I have family and friends who died for this country and are true heroes, you, you claim glory based on sitting on a base twiddling your thumbs. What a hero you truly are....
Not well enough. Too simplistic. The purpose is to defeat the enemy. Killing and destroying are but two ways.
No more anti-war protests, no nightly memorials of slain soldiers on the news.
Hypocrites, every one of them
NAIL ON HEAD
The left are hypocrites, not one anti war demo for N Africa and it was illegal as he never got the votes to my knowledge.
Troops in Africa now and nothing.
There is not such thing as anti war, it is anti republican war, we only have to look at Kosovo, Libya, basically any where in Africa etc to see how the left cheers wars on .
I HATE OUR BIASED MEDIA
This AP story is extremely biased against America. See how many “negative” and “hype” words the AP writers use to describe the war, public opinion, the Taliban “resilient” (one bomber?), etc.
This is the kind of leftist shit that AP has been putting out for years from both Iraq and Afghanistan.
A pure news story should not have hyped adjectives, non-related issued (i.e. public opinion), speculation (resilient), etc.
An old journalism trick is to scratch out all this types of words and then see if you find a “straight news” story or now. If the straight news story was there, then why were all these negative, extraneous words put in there and allowed to remain there by a copy editor?
Does the phrase “anti-American bias” ring any bells?
I saw this leftist shit while in Vietnam (from a handful of reporters for the New York Times, CBS, etc), not by most of the honest ones. It is time for this to stop.
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