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To: seekthetruth; Ciexyz; Lancey Howard; lightman; bigheadfred; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; jazusamo; ...
Kelly Stewart did admit to being intimate with the woman that one evening. So yes, one could say he was guilty of adultery.

3rd party passive is no substitute for first person active contrition.

Would have been more convincing to start the story with: "Kelly Stewart did admit to..being.. guilty of adultery, and understands that one mistake like that has ruined many a man's life who isn't an elite soldier, who doesn't have lots of people eager to send them money for legal defense....many who end up without a friend in the world. People have lost treasure, lives and kingdoms for less.

My question is, do married folks go to jail for having a one night stand outside of marriage?

Good point.

Yes they will, if the tart claims rape. The Navy angle is a total red herring, and it does a disservice to the service to leverage his service as a mitigating factor.

What makes this Navy man so much better than any other man who cheats on his wife and ruins his career?

Cheat on you wife, risk losing everything in life.

Sorry. Unmarried 20 something serviceman gets duped by a whore bait-and-switch that's one thing. A married man who made it clear in front of witnesses that he was not up for a fling and is later accused of rape, defend the guy at all cost.

But "Moment of weakness" (aka 'it's only sex') for a man who has broken vows before God? No thanks.

I'm sick and tired of this "everybody lies about sex," "anyone can have a mortal moment" bullcrap.

NO. Not EVERYONE cheats on his wife.

49 posted on 10/17/2011 5:19:25 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sam_paine

Cheating is one thing, but being accused of rape after a consensual sex event is totally another thing. Your post wrongly assumes that the two issues are legally, morally and ethically similar. From that faulty premise you derived an invalid conclusion.

I am not arguing for adultery, but I am noting that a false accusation of rape is perjury.


54 posted on 10/17/2011 6:33:46 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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To: sam_paine
NO. Not EVERYONE cheats on his wife.

Amen. I would never cheat on my wife...but then again...I'm not a scum bucket.

I hate that this soldiers life is being ruined by a false allegation...but a lesson can be learned from it: When you do the RIGHT thing (and by right thing I mean obey the rules God laid down)...you lessen your chances of being screwed over TREMENDOUSLY! If you play with fire you will get burned...even if you don't deserve it.

Jus' saying.

57 posted on 10/17/2011 7:17:07 AM PDT by NELSON111
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To: sam_paine
If we court marshaled everyone that commits adultery (roughly 60% of women and 70% of men) over time, if we court marshal everyone that commits sodomy (which if it includes all forms is over 90%) you would end up with an Army/Navy/Marine Corps/Air Force 3% of present. Leavenworth, we got some business coming your way!

I have a question? How can the DoD throw in sodomy charges against him but at the same time allow open homosexuals in its ranks?

The real offense is that he allegedly raped someone. That was nothing but an “accusation” it appears. That rest that you mention is the UCMJ/judge/command throwing the book at him and nothing more than BS because they would have to lock up MOST of the rest of the force too if they actually enforced those rules consistently.

***If they blast him like this for adultery and sodomy, they wanted to hang him.

I saw a Colonel in (1999-2000) Ft Wainwright Alaska get to retire after he lied and committed adultery with the S-1 which he was banging in the HQ’s. Both married, one retired, the other separated with an honorable discharge. Your argument is BS.

If they can't get him on rape, the rest should have simply been thrown out.


I'm happy that you reached Holiness and don't live in a fallen world anymore. For the rest of us it's only a matter of which vice or sin you fall for. For some it's lust, for others: greed, wrath, sloth, envy, gluttony, or pride. But of course you're above it all and “Never” had a moment of weakness which isn't an argument in your view. The purpose isn't to rationalize sin or affirm bad behavior, but to realize that we are all far from perfect and that we shouldn't harden our hearts to those that do sin. I believe scriptural there is something said on this.

60 posted on 10/17/2011 7:58:58 AM PDT by Red6
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To: sam_paine
I'm sick and tired of this "everybody lies about sex," "anyone can have a mortal moment" bullcrap.

NO. Not EVERYONE cheats on his wife.

Hurrah for that. I didn't cheat on mine before I ever even knew her.

75 posted on 10/17/2011 11:29:41 AM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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I so agree with you regarding his behavior.

However, my problem with USAA is that nowhere in my contract with them did they reserve the right to cancel any of my accounts because they did not approve or my morality.

Indeed, at one time they required you be an officer in the US Military, but now, their agency is open to all. To me it seems like a personal vendetta against Kelly Stewart to cancel his accounts, not a business policy decision.

I may be wrong and if so, they can explain it to me. Until then, I don’t want them to assume they have the right to demand anything other than I pay my bill.


86 posted on 10/17/2011 3:59:24 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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I STILL remember that ol’ admonition in Navy regs: “Penetration, however slight,...”! I’m sure it was the same in the Army and other services...

JC


93 posted on 10/17/2011 6:32:04 PM PDT by cracker45
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To: sam_paine

Have you been there?

Were you ever a soldier?

Were you ever a soldier just back from war?

Getting drunk and sexed is part of a soldier’s life since biblical times.

And even if you were a soldier just back from war you still have no place in criticizing this warrior.


98 posted on 10/17/2011 8:48:39 PM PDT by Keith Brown (Among the other evils being unarmed brings you, it causes you to be despised Machiavelli.)
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To: sam_paine
No not everyone cheats on their wives or husbands but a lot do. This is a problem for the individuals involved, if they see it as a problem. Criminalizing private conduct is police state activity. I know there are lots of Freepers who are comfortable with making puritanical attitudes legally enforceable. I am not one of them. Many Americans have obsessive attitudes about sexual conduct that borders on a form of evangelical Shariah law.
162 posted on 11/01/2011 4:01:53 PM PDT by robowombat
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