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Cain Says His Deadly Fence Plan Was 'a Joke'
The New York Times ^ | Sunday, October 16, 2011 | Susan Saulny

Posted on 10/16/2011 9:18:08 AM PDT by kristinn

At two campaign rallies in Tennessee on Saturday night, the Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally.

But by Sunday morning, in a dramatic change of tone, Mr. Cain, a former restaurant executive, said he was only kidding.

“That’s a joke,” Mr. Cain told the journalist David Gregory during an appearance on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” where he was asked about the electrified fence. “That’s not a serious plan. I’ve also said America needs to get a sense of humor.”

Mr. Cain’s attempt to pass off incendiary comments as nothing but a joke may take more effort, however. In making the initial remarks about an electrified fence killing illegal immigrants, Mr. Cain was detailed and repetitive. He did not introduce his thoughts as anything but serious commentary, beginning with the words, “We have a crisis of illegal immigration.”

And the crowds responded with cheers, not laughs.

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; cain; electricfence; fence; fleabaggers; hermancain; illegalimmigration; sliming4illegals
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To: Netizen
Worked for this guy!

But who has worked for Cain?

281 posted on 10/16/2011 11:33:59 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: altura

I know what you mean. The hatred of Mexicans, including the legal ones is disconcerting. We’ve seen this type of hatred before in history and it’s not pretty. Of course, when you dig into the shit stirrers you find that they have a similar belief system, KWIM?

If the rhetoric doesn’t tone down then this isn’t the place for me to post. It’s one thing to discuss the issue of securing the border. Rational discussion isn’t what happens far too often anymore.


282 posted on 10/16/2011 11:33:59 AM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: Nervous Tick

If Perry doesn’t get religion and back off the pandering to Hispanics and recant his meeting with La Raza then the top of my voting card starts with the senate.


283 posted on 10/16/2011 11:34:03 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6GDBxDDQ4c

Cain on EPA


284 posted on 10/16/2011 11:34:22 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: kristinn

If Cain is being honest here, there’s nothing wrong with any of his “electric fence” comments.

As long as he’s sincere, then we can count on him to do something about the problem.


285 posted on 10/16/2011 11:34:59 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: kristinn

I heard it was such a thigh-slapper that Borscht Belt lounge comedians are already working it into their schticks.


286 posted on 10/16/2011 11:35:57 AM PDT by behzinlea
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To: alicewonders; BobL
"I don’t want to see some poor Mexican woman that just wants to get her kids away from a place where decapitated torsos are routinely hung from bridges and the like - see one of her kids get electricuted AND THEN HEARTLESSLY SAY SHE DESERVES IT."

alice in wonderland....you need to brush up on your history. This country was NOT founded on "feel good" emotions. Many people died to create this wonderful country and many people died to keep it free.

If some stupid mother wants to take a chance with her children, that is NOT our problem, but hers. If she's willing to take the chance of climbing an electric fence with her children, she should be bold enough to get HER OWN COUNTRY back.

287 posted on 10/16/2011 11:36:46 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: kristinn

Cain must have taken the John ‘I started a joke’ Kerry online course in joke-telling.

Saying we need an electrified fence to kill people, joke or not, is more severe politicially than ‘macaca’ or YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH.


288 posted on 10/16/2011 11:36:55 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Norm Lenhart
Actually I think Bush did get a reasonable fraction of Hispanic votes.

Republicans need the law abiding Hispanic votes, they are becoming a larger and larger demographic.

And even non-Hispanic voters, who stop and think, don't agree with electric fences. Can you imagine some little Mexican kid touching the fence and dying, do you have any idea of the political repercussions?!

289 posted on 10/16/2011 11:37:43 AM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: fireman15

Wow that was awesome and yep, you can clearly tell he was joking about the alligators! :)


290 posted on 10/16/2011 11:39:56 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: lonestar

Newt could be on Cain’s list. He’s also said Paul Ryan, Demint.

I’m glad Perry and Romney are nowhere near it


291 posted on 10/16/2011 11:41:27 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Reagan Man

Oh look, how cute. The monkey throws more crap and refuses to answer any questions or address issues.


292 posted on 10/16/2011 11:41:45 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Reagan Man
SECURE THE SOUTHERN BORDER
293 posted on 10/16/2011 11:42:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Reagan Man
SECURE THE SOUTHERN BORDER
294 posted on 10/16/2011 11:42:17 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Netizen

It’s ironic, really, how close Cain and Perry are on the EPA and almost everything in fact. It’s ironic how much the 9-9-9 plan would do for Perry’s goal of making “Washington DC as inconsequential” as possible in all of our lives. And on immigration, the fence, and the big issues, they are very close too. (in state tuition is not that big of a piece of that issue, sorry, it’s not).

Foolish for supporters of one to trash the other. Very likely we will all have to support one or the other (I just don’t think Mitt will ever get over 30%). And in addition to foolish, it’s intellectually schizo to boot.


295 posted on 10/16/2011 11:42:32 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright
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To: Clairity

I’m more concerned about AMERICAN kids and families killed by illegals of any nationality funneled through Mexico.

I don’t give a rat’s tush about putting Mexican kids over American security, citizens, families or goldfish.

Who is more important to you...Mexicans or Americans?


296 posted on 10/16/2011 11:44:44 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: LyinLibs

I don’t think barry is 1/2 black, which is why he is hiding his long form.

I believe it probably states 1/2 Arab, not black or African. It would explain his support for all that is mooslimb and his hate towards Israel.


297 posted on 10/16/2011 11:45:02 AM PDT by NoGrayZone ("Get ready for an aberration of historic proportions" - Herman Cain)
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To: marty60
Can you imagine a supposed Candidate making a joke about putting up a fence with the intention of killing people.

I don’t find that funny. Maybe the next bright idea he will come up with is to go into businesses and killing the employers that HIRE illegals. but he will just be joking. /s

Please do not give the man any ideas he is staring to "joke" about some very serious issues. I think that the polls are starting to mess with his head.

298 posted on 10/16/2011 11:45:34 AM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: jdub
I was there too. I thought it was a mix of serious policy and humor. No one can honestly say Herman would try to install a fence that would actually kill.

I think you're right. It's his way of making it plain that he intends to do whatever it takes to secure the border and stop the invasion of illegal aliens. In his book he says that he'd build a 20 foot wall and a moat, which he would call "Herman's Moat." It's a humorous exagerration to make a point.

On Meet The Press this morning, he told Dick Gregory his plan was 4-fold:

1. Secure the border with a combination of physical fence, technology and troops where needed.
2. Promote the legal path to citizenship that's already there.
3. Enforce the laws that are already there
4. Empower the states to do what the federal government can't or won't do.

299 posted on 10/16/2011 11:45:57 AM PDT by lonevoice (The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers, impeach we much. We will much about that be committed.)
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To: Nervous Tick

>>I give up — who *are* you buying, then?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2793300/posts?page=706#706


300 posted on 10/16/2011 11:46:57 AM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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