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Cain Proposes Electrified Border Fence
Pravda- NY Times Division ^ | 10/15/11 | Wyatt

Posted on 10/15/2011 4:18:53 PM PDT by VinL

Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain said Saturday that part of his immigration policy would be to build an electrified fence on the country’s border with Mexico that could kill people trying to enter the country illegally...

Mr. Cain added that he also would consider using military troops “with real guns and real bullets” on the border to stop illegal immigration.

The remarks were among the most pointed yet by Mr. Cain about illegal immigration, and they come as he is enjoying a surge in national political polls on the back of his victory in a recent Florida straw poll..

It is not the first time that Mr. Cain has floated the idea of an electrified fence. He has told the story many times of a caller to his former radio show who chastised him for talking about building a border fence, saying that such an idea was impractical.

“It’s going to be 20 feet high. It’s going to have barbed wire on the top. It’s going to be electrified. And there’s going to be a sign on the other side saying, ‘It will kill you — Warning.’” At an earlier rally, on the campus of Tennessee Tech University in Cookeville, Tenn., he added that the sign would be written “in English and in Spanish.”

“This nation has always been a nation with wide open doors,” Mr. Cain said at the second rally. “We want to make it easy for people to come through the front door. And we’re going to shut off the back door so you don’t have to sneak into America.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Russia; US: New York
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To: muawiyah
"This is why the border defense will need supplemented with drones equipped with Hellfire missiles."

Good night! We can't possibly be talking on this level! No one is talking about using Predator Drones outfitted with Small Tactical Munitions to kill border crossers. Such talk is so extreme, I haven't any words for it. I would be embarrassed.

581 posted on 10/15/2011 9:25:59 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: GRRRRR

We do not kill unarmed civilians, including illegal immigrants, neither by bullets nor by electrocution nor by any other means. We live in the United States of America and not in the old Soviet Union. Herman Cain the TALKER throwing more stupid red meat bumper sticker rhetoric to the Red Meat crowds who are very close to be called the Crazies.


582 posted on 10/15/2011 9:26:36 PM PDT by jgge
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To: BobL

http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20111014-711429.html


583 posted on 10/15/2011 9:30:12 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: txhurl

“I was still a Cain fan at 3pmish. Not so anymore. “

Unfortunately, at FR we can out LIARS quite easily with their past posting history...such as this post.

So you Perry guys are now reduced to lying about yourselves...LOL.

Monday, October 03, 2011 4:27:28 PM · 70 of 138
txhurl to Cincinatus’ Wife

“They’re just jealous that we’re importing all the best and brightest industry because in large part thanks to Perry, the business of Texas is Business.

The business of the rest of the country is implementing Marxism, must suck for them.”


584 posted on 10/15/2011 9:30:17 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: dennisw

By the way, congratulations to the Texas Rangers, going to the World Series for the second year in a row.


585 posted on 10/15/2011 9:32:05 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: mylife

“Nope. I have a problem with stupid slogans that get nothing done.

I have a problem with a national sales tax and calling on “super committees””

Ok, since you’re good with the government providing for the national defense, then we agree on the fence.

...and your problem with Cain is elsewhere. No problem then, a bit off-topic, but certainly within posting guidelines.


586 posted on 10/15/2011 9:33:26 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: jgge

Yeah- Cain has to be laughing his ass off on the Air Jaws III he started by throwing out the illegal chum into the primary waters.

He’s too smart to be tone-deaf. This was an intentional lob.


587 posted on 10/15/2011 9:35:09 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: mylife

“He has just opened the entire party up do savage criticism for saying “YOU WILL BE KILLED” over an international economic matter.”

It becomes more than an “international economic matter” when huge amounts of drugs and now terrorists start to cross the border.

And if the Republicans get criticized for it...what’s new.


588 posted on 10/15/2011 9:35:49 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: muawiyah
We also know how pumps and pipes work. Those cows can learn to drink from troughs like normal cows in this country. You seem to want to imagine Texas is like India or something.

I once worked with someone who was originally from South Africa, who had worked for years in Texas. He told me that as far as he was concerned, much of Texas *was* a Third World country.

(I'm guessing they didn't cotton to his foreign accent much.)

Cheers!

589 posted on 10/15/2011 9:37:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: muawiyah

What are you talking about? “Put up a big steel pole, with the equipment on top, and fire it up.” What does that mean? I described putting a circuit shunt along a length of the electrified conductors and cutting it out of the circuit. That defeats the electric fence while keeping any voltage sensors from being alerted. And you talk about putting a DC drop on it. What is a DC drop? You do not address the simple method I described to defeat the electric fence.

One more thought. Electric fences are for animal control. They do not work for humans who are much more innovative and can defeat any electric fence.


590 posted on 10/15/2011 9:38:38 PM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: BobL

Your tag line is indicative of your intelligence.


591 posted on 10/15/2011 9:38:50 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: BobL

If you go back even further into my posting history, you’ll see I was in puppy-love with Cain for about a week.

Thanks for making my point, by the way.


592 posted on 10/15/2011 9:39:14 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: GunPkrBkr

“This is why an electric fence would work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY4reHpNeLA";

But everyone is telling me an electric fence cannot work?

LOL.


593 posted on 10/15/2011 9:39:14 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

Being a Texan and being proud of Texas does not preclude one from liking Mr Cain.

Cain stepped in a big turd here.
Not just once, Not just twice.

We get it, you hate Rick Perry who the fudge did you vote for? Deb Medina?

I almost voted for Kinky 2 elections ago, thinking that he would make Willy Nelson his energy czar and they would sit around smoking doobs and playing guitars but not get any actual legislation passed.

Well I am glad I voted for Rick Perry because he has gotten some serious work done in the past 2 terms.


594 posted on 10/15/2011 9:40:03 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: jgge

No, we do not kill unarmed people even if they’re tryin’ to get in.

A lot of people here are having fun talking about killing Mexicans but it’s not part of our values.

I’m pretty heartless myself, but not that heartless.


595 posted on 10/15/2011 9:41:03 PM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: Reagan Man

Excellent post Reagan Man. I have been calling them the RED MEAT crowds who are waiting for Cain the TALKER to throw the stupid red meat bumper sticker but now I think that they fit the CRAZIES category. It is really sad that some who claim to be conservatives have reached this level.


596 posted on 10/15/2011 9:44:06 PM PDT by jgge
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To: berdie

“Let’s face it..an electrified fence would come from the federal level. In today’s world..it ain’t gonna happen.”

I won’t face it. This country has had to face other enemies before and a LEADER is able to mobilize us to do what’s necessary.

“Just for reference..I don’t plan to vote for Perry in the primary..at this time.”

You’re starting to talk my language now...Hopefully we can replace him with a conservative. But I somehow doubt doubt that he’ll be running anyway - enough people are sick of him and WILL JUMP at a chance to (finally) nominate a conservative.

“I see a lot of hatred toward Perry from you while lurking. Who do you support?”

Cain.


597 posted on 10/15/2011 9:45:31 PM PDT by BobL (A vote for Perry is a vote for Romney)
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To: Reagan Man

Very well then. I was 12 in ‘76.

It feels like I have been listening to RINOs blame Teddy for the shortcomings of “conservatives” ever since as well.

I have been reading your comments for the last three and a half years, and can not recall you supporting any sort of fence on the border at all, electrified or otherwise, and refuse to wade through nine more years of your vituperation looking for it. Furthermore, I questioned your logic and the consequences of your opinion and the current situation, not your intelligence as you are wont to do whenever someone does not agree with your Romn....Perrywinkle position(s).

No doubt, people who hold your opinions are in charge right now, and are the main reason we are in such a mess with a two party system consisting of a progressive/liberal party and an ersatz communist party.

Answer the questions I asked you. If you can’t remember them all, let me sum it up in one.

WHY ARE YOU IN FAVOR OF DESTROYING THE UNTITED STATES OF AMERICA VIA DEMOGRAPHICS?

ANSWER IT RIGHT NOW!


598 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:09 PM PDT by noprogs (Borders, Language, Culture....all should be preserved)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Victoria, please try to remember that the fences at Dachau were to keep people *in*, not *out*.

The real problem is that Mexico is a failed state and that we have a huge lucrative desire for a number of narcotics in the U.S.; among both the underclasses and the sophisticates.

Legalization would help some pathologies and make others worse.

WE need someone with the wisdom to cut the Gordian knot.

And as long as I'm dreaming, I'd like a pony...

Cheers!

599 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:14 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: circlecity
" Build giant moats and fill them with lots of sharks "

Alligators and Piranhas are more effective in shallow water.
600 posted on 10/15/2011 9:46:37 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (The fool has said in his heart, " there is no GOD " ..)
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