Posted on 10/14/2011 7:24:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
A new Economist/YouGov poll finds Herman Cain leading the Republican presidential field with 33%, followed by Mitt Romney at 18%
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It’s time for people to seriously get behind Cain - whether you like his plan or not. If it’s not feasible, there is a 535 member buffer to stop it.
We have 90 days before the first primaries, it’s time to get behind a candidate. If you like Cain, except his 999, that’s okay. Cain can be your choice and you can hate the plan. He isn’t Obama, and he isn’t going to shove something down our throats that the people don’t want.
The fact is, Cain is beating Romney. He can take Obama. He is the first non-establishment candidate since the Founding Fathers.
But he has the whole liberal machine on full attack mode now, as well as Romney (and I suspect some Perry supporters still).
His stance on the issues is here: http://www.hermancain.com/the-issues and many of his speeches are on youtube. You can read his commentary going back to 2005 at http://www.thinkersvoice.org He has 4 books on Amazon. There are folks here and on Facebook that are resources if you have serious questions.
Just something to think about.
Anitius, I loved reading your post. Your words and thoughts were very insightful!
It looks like Florida moving its primary up, causing New Hampshire to move theirs up REALLY early might actually hurt Romney’s “traditional” wining nominee status. The fact that NH is now SO early and is set apart from SC and Florida with the important exception of the IOWA primary before going south, unless Romney won IOWA, Romney would lose a lot of “he’s going to be the winner anyway” mentality, leaving the group mentality of Florida and SC at a level where the groups could still vote who they really wanted and not who they think will win but with that little insertion of knowing who IOWA went with as the actual best candidate.
New Hampshire’s influence, where a Romney win could have had an influence overall, will basically become almost null and void in that scenario.
If I’m right on paraphrasing you back, it would appear that NH’s impact will be more negligible than ever before, but IOWA will be more defining.
Interesting.
It also is interesting considering the psychological aspects of campaigns and the sociological influences of groups too. Politics could be fun (if one were thick skinned which I’m not), but I do like psychology and sociology at least!
Thanks for your thoughts, but also feel free to let me know if I got something wrong with my take on what you said. Thanks!
At one time Ross Perot was over 30%. Then the republican elite, with the help of the media, turned Perot into a nut. And many people, including people on here, fell for it. People beleived he went from a billionaire who outsmarted GM to a bumbling idiot. Stand by and watch for the same thing to happen to Cain. And many on here will fall for it.
DO NOT BELIEVE THE PRESS....OR....THE GOP.
Then there was the one yesterday that showed Obama beating Cain 49% to 38% (Rasmussen), yet when you go to Rasmussen there is a poll showing Obama's popularity at 39%.
Indeed. The only people I see really dissing Cain and his chances are those who are locked to another candidate. I have a co-worker who dismisses Cain as "unelectable" because he's 100% behind Perry.
I would say that Lincoln and Bryan come quickly to mind as non-establishment major candidates since the Founders.
Cain is looking good at the moment.
Has he peaked? We’ll find out soon.
Has he been the focus of a full bore attack by the MSM and the Romney/establishment? No, not yet.
Will he survive it when he is? We’ll see.
What I worry about is the fact that if Cain should falter, we have done our best to destroy the only viable alternative against Romney.
The Cain people cannot seem to support their guy without viciously attacking Perry.
I am sure this statement will result in a whole slew of more vicious attacks. It’s like a sickness or something.
If Cain does falter, I guess we could go to Gingrich, but we know in our hearts that Gingrich is an enchanting will-o-the-wisp who may fly away into the mists of fantasy. I like him. As an alternative to Romney, he’s great.
But why destroy another good candidate?? On flimsy and knee jerk reaction to flawed issues that have not been investigated. We don’t have to worry about what Perry might do or his ability to govern. He’s been there and done that very successfully.
If you expect to agree with your candidate on everything, well good luck.
But I like Perry and we’re only sabotaging our own chances by trying to destroy him.
“Then the republican elite, with the help of the media, turned Perot into a nut.”
Ah no. Perot got there all by himself.
Well, your co-worker is wrong. I think Cain is electable against Obama as would any decent candidate be unless the world’s gone mad.
But, the Cain people are far worse about taking the attitude that they have to diss another candidate (almost always Perry) to insure their man gets in.
The main worry about Cain is not Obama, but Romney.
The fact that Cain has very little money is a fact that can and will be overcome. The republican party has been in an unusual amount of flux this season, with the lead changing hands several times. Once we decide on an acceptable conservative frontrunner, the money will start pouring in.
Nobody wants to waste money on a candidate who will not be his party’s nominee. If Cain, a most acceptable conservative candidate, gets the nod, it will only take ten million conservatives sending in a measly 25 bucks apiece to raise 1/4 billion dollars, and that’s without any corporate sponsorship. Sure, Obama will probably raise 4 or 5 times that, but it takes a lot more money to convince people with lies, while truths are readily evident.
“Has he been the focus of a full bore attack by the MSM and the Romney/establishment?”
Unlike Obama, attaccks by the MSM, the east coast Republican elite, and the Dems will be spun to be “not racially motivated” because we’ve already shown our ability to elect a black man into the Oval Office.
Blacks will not embrace Cain any more than they have Clarence Thomas. If fact you’ll see them leading the charge against Cain replacing Obama. At this point they’ll be supporting the socialist that promises protection for the race warlords and protects their entitlement status.....
urveys considering all factors indicate the most likely winner is going to be Romney anyway.
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That is more MSM lies. The establisment and media want people to vote for Romney on the lie that Romney will win anyway.
How about, instead of throwing your hands up in resignation, lets get the message out that Romney WON”T be the nominee, that we can have a conservative candidate. EVER SINGLE CONSERVATIVE NEEDS TO GET THE MESSAGE OUT THAT ROMNEY CAN”T WIN AGIANST OBAMA (and he can’t). Tell all your friends, work on it, don’t just say Mitt is going to win because Mitt is Obama - just paler.
I for one, will never vote for Romney, even if (God forbid) he gets the nomination. Mitt will be the death of the GOP if we don’t fight back.
NO ROMNEY, NEVER!!!
Gee... why bother voting? We should just take a survey, go home and eat our peas.
I think most people know what I mean.
Yes, I agree. Cain has this pipe dream that he can attract 30% of the black vote. I’d be very surprised if he gets more than the usual 10% that go for the Republican.
Blacks just can’t seem to trust a black conservative. It’s a sad state of affairs and speaks poorly of the education and savvy of this particular group of the electorate, but it has been the case for years.
In fact, we would never have had a dem president in the last 20 years without the black vote.
The only chance of Cain attracting the black vote is if he is attack viciously on race, and he won’t be.
Just look at how blacks reacted to a beloved figure like Bill Cosby whe he tried gently to get them off their butts.
No, Cain will have to win the usual way, without the black vote. And I think he can ... the big IF is can he (and should he) get the Republican nomination.
“No, Cain will have to win the usual way, without the black vote.”
Yes Cain can win as a CONSERVATIVE. Racial politics will have little to do with either his success or failure.
ps If Cain loses....the Dems will spin the Republicans as racist bigots..........where have we heard that before......
LOL! Well done.
Wow. Just wow.
The saboteur of HillaryCare versus the man who tried to resurrect HillaryCare (renamed as RomneyCare, the precursor of ObamaCare). Let this get known to the Republican primary voters and Cain surges another 20 points relative to Romney.
Cain the successful, self-made businessman versus the guy who trained at exclusive prep schools and Ivy League colleges and inherited his daddy's Rolodex and connections. Obviously, Mitt made the most of his connections but how many opportunities did Mitt get simply because his last name was Romney?
The more I hear of Herman Cain, the more I like this guy. He's a very impressive individual.
That is expecially true of Michele Bachmann’s supporters.
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