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Another poll shows Herman Cain way ahead of the field
saintpetersblog.com ^ | 10/14/11 | Peter Schorsch

Posted on 10/14/2011 7:24:54 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009

A new Economist/YouGov poll finds Herman Cain leading the Republican presidential field with 33%, followed by Mitt Romney at 18%

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; 999; cain; flattax; frontrunner; hermancain; mathwhiz; nomination; poll; polls
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here's a link to the original data

http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/20111011econToplines.pdf

1 posted on 10/14/2011 7:25:02 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: TexasFreeper2009
33% is golden. Romney has never broken 30% as best I can remember. He can only be the front runner if there are four or more candidates splitting up the Anyone but Romney vote. If Cain becomes the official “NotRomney” he will find the funding and organization. The fact that Cain expresses conservative views unapologetically makes it even easier. Cain looks like the kind of man who leads from the front, not stabs you in the back.
2 posted on 10/14/2011 7:30:52 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: GonzoGOP

yep, at 33% Cain can sweep it all.


3 posted on 10/14/2011 7:33:38 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: TexasFreeper2009; shield

But here’s a problem for the Republican party.

No matter how high Cain may surge in the polls we are seeing now based on performances and personality, surveys considering all factors indicate the most likely winner is going to be Romney anyway.

Here’s one that just came out yesterday:

http://race42012.com/2011/10/13/42076/

Regardless of which candidate you want to win the Republican Presidential Nomination, which candidate is most likely to win?

Mitt Romney 51%
Herman Cain 17%
Rick Perry 13%

So what does one do when we have a popular nominee surging in polls that appears to have absolutely no chance of winning the nomination anyway?


4 posted on 10/14/2011 7:34:43 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: GonzoGOP

Cain is also Obama’s worst nightmare - an entity he doesn’t undertand: A self-made conservative black man, who actually grew up without a safety net.


5 posted on 10/14/2011 7:36:38 AM PDT by Rennes Templar (Fast & Furious: Holder gone by the end of the year.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I imagine most of the people that were waiting on Sarah Palin have now gone to Herman Cain.


6 posted on 10/14/2011 7:36:48 AM PDT by MCF
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To: GonzoGOP

I believe that Romney has never gone beyond 23-25%. He is the type that I think will just be there if he wins. I see no fire in his belly.


7 posted on 10/14/2011 7:37:00 AM PDT by RC2
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To: casinva

As Cain’s poll numbers keep surging up, the perception that he can’t win will dissapear, I didn’t think Cain could win a week ago either, now I think actually think he could wipe the floor with Romney.


8 posted on 10/14/2011 7:37:08 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama = Epic Fail)
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To: casinva

Still willfully attempting to sabotage our Conservative front-runner, Herman Cain, I see.


9 posted on 10/14/2011 7:39:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Herman Cain grew up in Atlanta, Georgia with loving parents and little else. His father worked three jobs—as a janitor, a barber and a chauffeur—and his mother was a domestic worker. Even though these jobs required hard work and little glamour, his parents knew this life was better than the dirt farms upon which they grew up. They also knew that this hard work was the key to achieving their American Dreams.

Herman’s parents had two dreams. First, they wanted to own their own house. Secondly, they wanted both of their children to graduate from college. During the segregation era in the Deep South, these aspirations might have seemed lofty, but they knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and faith in the greatest country on the Earth, they could achieve.

The first dream was realized in a modest brick house on Albert Street in Atlanta, Georgia. After years of saving from his many jobs, Herman’s father surprised the whole family, even his wife, by purchasing a home for their family. The second dream was realized when Herman graduated from Morehouse College with a degree in mathematics in 1967. His brother, Thurman, would go on to graduate from Morris Brown College.

Inspired by the work ethic and character of his parents, Herman continued his education by earning his Master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University while working full-time developing fire control systems for ships and fighter planes for the Department of the Navy. Though Herman enjoyed using his talents as a civilian employee for the Navy, he gravitated towards the culture of business.

Herman returned to his home of Atlanta to begin working as a computer systems analyst for the Coca-Cola Company. After considerable success at Coca-Cola, he moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period of time, Herman rose to position of Vice President. Although the comforts of a corner office on the 31st floor of a majestic corporate building seemed satisfying, Herman knew that he needed a challenge.

He became the regional vice president of Pillsbury’s Burger King division. This meant starting from the “ground up,” dodging grease fires and broiling hamburgers. Herman was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 of their restaurants. Within three years, it became the best performing region in the company.

Energized by overcoming the many obstacles of his job at Burger King, Herman took on the biggest challenge of his career. He accepted the call to become the President and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, a company that was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. In just 14 months, Herman returned Godfather’s to profitability and he led his management team to a buyout of the company.

His professional successes garnered the respect and admiration of industry peers who named him the President of the National Restaurant Association. Under Herman’s administration, the group grew significantly and began to lobby for the interests of America’s restaurateurs and small business owners.

In 1994, as head of the National Restaurant Association, he had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, Herman challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed. President Clinton attempted to assure him and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.

Herman was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” he said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.” His words echoed across America, and Newsweek named Herman Cain the primary saboteur of Hillarycare.

Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, Herman began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to his acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and he was subsequently elected their chairman. In this role, he analyzed economic conditions in the region and notified the Federal Reserve of how their policies should respond.

Most recently, he hosted a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. He serves as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.

Despite the many professional commitments of his life, Herman continues to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As his children got married and had their own children, he knew that he had an extraordinary obligation to do what he could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in his life are his wife, Gloria, his children and his grandchildren.

Now I highlighted and underline Herman's working at the Fed to meet a promise that I made to many of the Paulist on FR. Herman was not a member of the Board of Governors which sets monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City is more or less a bank for banks and what they do is provide financial services to depository institutions including banks, credit unions, and savings and loans, much like those that banks provide for their customers. These services include collecting checks, electronically transferring funds, and distributing and receiving cash and coin.

I know that sounds so very ominous.

10 posted on 10/14/2011 7:41:39 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: casinva

Regardless of which candidate you want to win the Republican Presidential Nomination, which candidate is most likely to win?

Mitt Romney 51%
Herman Cain 17%
Rick Perry 13%


You’re looking at a lagging indicator, and the perishable effect of the media.

Cain is still even now rarely granted the status of being among the front-runners.


11 posted on 10/14/2011 7:43:38 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: MCF

Along with people who have been disappointed with Perry


12 posted on 10/14/2011 7:44:07 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Socialism means slavery." Lord Acton)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Yes, we Cain.


13 posted on 10/14/2011 7:46:01 AM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

First of all, my post was not based on sabotage. If anyone really supported Cain, or any other candidate other than Romney, they should be willing to look at the overall situation and try to figure out what to do for their candidate to help their candidate actually get the nomination.

Both Cain AND Perry appear to be weak to get the party nomination right now. If you liked Cain, wouldn’t you want to know the problems you have to face? I know I would as a Perry supporter.

This doesn’t look good for EITHER, but I gave no reference at all to any solution and opened it up for positive actions ANY candidate’s supporter would offer for ANY candidate, so your premise is downright stupid sounding at best.

Why don’t you just go post on the Wilson County TN Young Democrats message board anyway?

If you want to stay here and continue to talk, I’m sure real Herman Cain supporters would love to hear you actually say something good about Herman Cain instead of just your nastiness all the time to other candidates with never any nice thing about Cain (or Palin or whoever you use at the time for your platform of disruption).


14 posted on 10/14/2011 7:49:09 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: casinva

Romney has tried for 4 years to create the very magical aura of inevitability around himself. If a candidate has that aura, it’s almost impossible to beat him because so many people want to be on the winning side and will therefore vote for who they believe will win.

This is one of the reasons why I believe Iowa and New Hampshire are important. The voters in those States really believe that their votes can make a difference, and they are right. Because they believe that, they are more likely to vote for who they want and not who they believe will win. When that happens, the magical aura can be easily removed from the frontrunner, and someone who is not taken seriously can emerge.

Romney has a serious problem right now. Looks like New Hampshire, where he will do very well, will fire too early (before Christmas) and any momentum he gets from it will be stalled out by the time Iowa votes.

If he wins New Hampshire, but loses Iowa by a sizable margin (or comes in third), people will say “Wait, I thought Romney had this wrapped up? Can he only win in the Northeast?”

With South Carolina and Florida soon after, and with him not polling well there, he may be a one and out candidate. He loses that aura and he loses the nomination. And since he can’t break 30 in a National poll, I believe that will happen.


15 posted on 10/14/2011 7:49:14 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: casinva
That is just “guess” question, not an opinion of the persons preference. It really has no validity to it.
16 posted on 10/14/2011 7:49:39 AM PDT by MCF
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To: casinva

Why vote for Herman Cain, well for one reason unlike Mitt and Rick the media and the elites of both parties are scared to death of a Cain win and this is why:

Herman Cain who truly was until recently a virtual unknown had faith enough in himself to decide to run for President of the United States on his own. There was no Media hype/pressure/build-up about a possible run, there was no urging by members of the Party, no words spoken into his ear by party players, elites, beltway boys or pundits, not even a word of encouragement from the Republican Party of his home state only faith in himself. Now after months of being treated as being a inconsequential candidate the curious sideshow of a conservative black Republican, he is now in the top tier along with people of great party pull, of men with experienced political machines and the dollars to power them. He did that on his own with no help from anyone accept by his own. Now think what a man with faith in himself like that could accomplish if given the chance.

Now many are saying Cain hasn’t a chance with his little formal organization and even less money.

Well let me remind all of you of what a recent movement did with no formal organization and even less money, The Tea Party.

The Tea Party manage with both those weakness to go on and seriously change the political landscape and in doing so caused the Leftist members of govenment, ellitist of both political parties and media types to quake in fear of them and their rath and all done with only a minimum of formal organization and on a ‘shoe string’ budget.

That’s what sucessful AMERICANS do, what they have always done! It’s what makes us WINNERS! They start out with what they have and they MAKE IT WORK! They make it work because what they don’t have in manpower or money they make-up with brains, sweat, blood and last but most important faith.


17 posted on 10/14/2011 7:54:55 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: MCF

“I imagine that most of the people that were waiting on Sarah Palin have now gone to Herman Cain.”

I absolutely agree - and when the other candidates who are doing poorly drop out, the majority of their supporters will go to Cain as well.

Cain CAN win the primary despite the negativity out there being thrown around by the RINO establishment types.


18 posted on 10/14/2011 7:56:27 AM PDT by stonehouse01
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To: casinva

Oh thou most greatest of sages, thank you from the bottom of our hearts for the reading from your most treasured and esteemed crystal ball into the future that allows us visions which otherwise none of us saps in flyover country can discern, but thanks to your magnanimous genius we are able to cross into the opaque fog of the political uncertainty of months to come. We are not worthy! We are not worthy! Most noble and intelligent prophet of the unwritten script. It is all so clear now. I’ll call Mr. Cain urge him to drop out right away.


19 posted on 10/14/2011 7:56:27 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Herman Cain will be the nominee of the GOP! The momentum is unmistakeable. The Dems/RINOs hate it.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Agreed, the “Cain can’t win” idea is so September 2011. All he has to do now is not flame out and he waltzes to the nod. But there have been two major flame outs already, Bachmann and Perry, and now Cain is at bat. These next few weeks will be very interesting.


20 posted on 10/14/2011 7:58:32 AM PDT by HerrBlucher (Liberhoids: Painful, Stinky, and Red.)
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