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The new, ugly debate about Mitt Romney's Mormon faith will only push him closer to the nomination
The Telegraph ^ | October 10th, 2011 | Tim Stanley

Posted on 10/09/2011 10:22:04 PM PDT by Ripliancum

"...It probably irks Mitt to have to discuss his faith in this way, but the Mormon debate could be of net benefit to his campaign.

...True, there is a small but significant minority who say they would never vote for a Mormon. According to Gallup, it’s around 22 percent of the population. But opposition to Mormonism doesn’t come from conservative Evangelicals or Catholics. On the contrary, Gallup’s polls show that it’s a liberal thing. Only 7 percent of Baptists and Catholics wouldn’t vote for a Mormon, compared with 32 percent of gays and 49 percent of atheists. Amusingly, the figure is also much, much higher among Mormons, at 22 percent. That’s right, 22 percent of Mormons would never vote for a Mormon. Perhaps they know something we don’t."

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.telegraph.co.uk ...


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To: Colofornian
(Anyone who can be duped by Joseph Smith can be duped by anyone.)

I find your new tagline to be highly offensive.

What kind of 'christian' are you; anyway?)
 
 
666 posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:35:28 AM by MormonDude (I may not understand everything MORMON, but, by golly, I sure BELIEVE it!)
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101 posted on 10/10/2011 5:32:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Cowgirl

MINO???

LOL

That’s funny not it’s implication but, just plain funny...


102 posted on 10/10/2011 5:32:32 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Sea Parrot

Did I understand this correctly?

That you have no knowledge of what MORMON scripture actually says?


103 posted on 10/10/2011 5:34:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Colofornian

Missionary, et all?

Please send me that in PM.

thnx.


104 posted on 10/10/2011 5:34:54 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: caww

Don’t we as conservatives hope that a person’s faith will influence their decisions?


105 posted on 10/10/2011 5:36:20 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: LetMarch
Yes, I agree, the cults will become the norm; and those that honor and follow our Saviour Jesus Christ will dimish, and be hated as He, Jesus was hated!

Luke 18:8

New International Version

I tell you, he will see that they get justice, and quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

106 posted on 10/10/2011 5:36:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Venturer

I think there are others, behind the scenes, who don’t care as much (usually) who is the winner, just that it be one of the two so chosen. They are the moneymen and real levers of power behind the throne. I can’t believe I am saying this, but it seems more and more apparent as times goes by.


107 posted on 10/10/2011 5:37:01 AM PDT by PghBaldy (War Powers Res: http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/warpower.asp)
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To: silverleaf

You mean like Laminites? /S


108 posted on 10/10/2011 5:37:01 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jonrick46
We cannot let offensive talk like what Dr. Jeffress expressed, stir up bigotry between the religions.

Yeah !!


 


 
Matthew 15:16
   "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.

Matthew 23
 
  1.  Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples:
  2.  "The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.
  3.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
  4.  They tie up heavy loads and put them on men's shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
  5.  "Everything they do is done for men to see: They make their phylacteries  wide and the tassels on their garments long;
  6.  they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues;
  7.  they love to be greeted in the marketplaces and to have men call them `Rabbi.'
  8.  "But you are not to be called `Rabbi,' for you have only one Master and you are all brothers.
  9.  And do not call anyone on earth `father,' for you have one Father, and he is in heaven.
 10.  Nor are you to be called `teacher,' for you have one Teacher, the Christ.
 11.  The greatest among you will be your servant.
 12.  For whoever exalts himself will be humbled, and whoever humbles himself will be exalted.
 13.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to. 
 14.  Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. 
 15.   "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are. 
 16.  "Woe to you, blind guides! You say, `If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.'
 17.  You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred?
 18.  You also say, `If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.'
 19.  You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred?
 20.  Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it.
 21.  And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it.
 22.  And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.
 23.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices--mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law--justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.
 24.  You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
 25.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence.
 26.  Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
 27.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites!  You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean.
 28.  In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
 29.  "Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous.
 30.  And you say, `If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.'
 31.  So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets.
 32.  Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!
 33.  "You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?
 34.  Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.
 35.  And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.
 36.  I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.
 37.  "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.
 38.  Look, your house is left to you desolate.
 39.  For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, `Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.' "
 


Mark 7:26-27
 26.  The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.
 27.  "First let the children eat all they want," he told her, "for it is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs."
 

And St. Paul chimes in...

Galatians 5:12
   As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
 


109 posted on 10/10/2011 5:38:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: jonrick46
The Mormon faith has come a long way from it’s questionable beginnings.

Oh?

And what evidence do you have of it?

110 posted on 10/10/2011 5:39:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Polybius

Cain’s comments are politically astute and reasonable. He’s not tarring the entire South, just noting the political reality of campaigning in the Bible Belt.


111 posted on 10/10/2011 5:39:53 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sea Parrot
The only thing I could ask of any religion, is do no harm.

What?

THAT is not 'religion' but the Lions Club!

RELIGION is concerned about a person ETERNAL SOUL!

They are NOT anywhere 'equal' at all!

112 posted on 10/10/2011 5:40:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Sea Parrot
Let another sect worship different than they, and their vitriol boils to the fore.

Yeah; that's a problem all right...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sects_in_the_Latter_Day_Saint_movement

113 posted on 10/10/2011 5:42:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: caww

You forgot to mention his relationship with the Queen of England, the international opium trade and the white slave trade to Asia and the Middle-East.


114 posted on 10/10/2011 5:42:36 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Sea Parrot
Let another sect worship different than they, and their vitriol boils to the fore.

Yeah; bullies want THEIR way to be the ONLY way...


Media Letter   
26 June 2008 — Salt Lake City  (http://newsroom.lds.org/additional-resource/media-letter)

*The following is a letter from Elder Lance B. Wickman, General Counsel of the Church to publishers of major newspapers, TV stations and magazines. It was sent out on Tuesday, June 24, 2008.




Recent events have focused the media spotlight on a polygamous sect near San Angelo, Texas, calling itself the “Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.” As you probably know, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has absolutely no affiliation with this polygamous sect. Decades ago, the founders of that sect rejected the doctrines of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, were excommunicated, and then started their own religion. To the best of our knowledge, no one at the Texas compound has ever been a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Unfortunately, however, some of the media coverage of the recent events in Texas has caused members of the public to confuse the doctrines and members of that group and our church. We have received numerous inquiries from confused members of the public who, by listening to less than careful media reports, have come to a grave misunderstanding about our respective doctrines and faith. Based on these media reports many have erroneously concluded that there is some affiliation between the two – or even worse, that they are one and the same.

Over the years, in a careful effort to distinguish itself, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has gone to significant lengths to protect its rights in the name of the church and related matters. Specifically, we have obtained registrations for the name “The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints,” “Mormon,” “Book of Mormon” and related trade and service marks from the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office and corresponding agencies in a significant number of foreign countries.

We are confident that you are committed to avoiding misleading statements that cause unwarranted confusion and that may disparage or infringe the intellectual property rights discussed above. Accordingly, we respectfully request the following:

  1. As reflected in the AP Style Guide, we ask that you and your organization refrain from referring to members of that polygamous sect as “fundamentalist Mormons” or “fundamentalist” members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  2. We ask that, when reporting about this Texas-based polygamous sect or any other polygamous group, you avoid either explicitly or implicitly any inference that these groups are affiliated with The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
  3. On those occasions when it may be necessary in your reporting to refer to the historical practice of plural marriage in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, that you make very clear that the Church does not condone the practice of polygamy and that it has been forbidden in the Church for over one hundred years. Moreover, we absolutely condemn arranged or forced “marriages” of underage girls to anyone under any circumstances.

Stated simply, we would like to be known and recognized for whom we are and what we believe, and not be inaccurately associated with beliefs and practices that we condemn in the strongest terms. We would be grateful if you could circulate or copy this letter to your editorial staff and to your legal counsel.

We thank you for your consideration of these important matters.

Sincerely,

Lance B. Wickman

General Counsel

115 posted on 10/10/2011 5:44:18 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: stars & stripes forever
Christians believe in God the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Jesus is God's only begotton Son, Who was born of a virgin, Who led a sinless life, Who died for the sins of the world, Who arose from the grave the third day and Who is seated on the right hand of the Father.

You'd not find a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who disagrees with one thing in the above statement of what Christians believe.

116 posted on 10/10/2011 5:45:12 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Iron Munro
There are plenty of other valid and meaningful issues to discuss and judge the candidates.

Img src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_jDxI3goQLGs/TD8h13ZAJDI/AAAAAAAAAgE/4r125y26DIQ/s1600/Man+behind+the+curtain.jpg">

117 posted on 10/10/2011 5:46:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Iron Munro
So many MORMONs;
So little time...


118 posted on 10/10/2011 5:48:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BlueMoose
 
They would not listen, however, but persisted in their former practices.
Even while these people were worshiping the Lord, they were serving their idols.
To this day their children and grandchildren continue to do as their fathers did.
 
 2 Kings 17:40-41 


119 posted on 10/10/2011 5:49:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

I took this picture in a Toole Wal-Mart parking lot a little over two years ago.


120 posted on 10/10/2011 5:56:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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