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Bachmann, Cain won't say Romney is a Christian
Dalls News ^ | Oct 9, 2011 | Wayne Slater

Posted on 10/09/2011 11:10:24 AM PDT by Clairity

Herman Cain and Michele Bachmann dodged questions Sunday whether Romney is a Christian. The issue arose during the just-completed Values Voters Summit in Washington, exposing tensions among evangelicals over Romney's religious faith, as we reported today. Dallas Baptist pastor Robert Jeffress kicked things off by endorsing Rick Perry and declaring that Mormonism is a cult and Romney is not a Christian.

Speakers went back and forth on the issue -- and Romney himself weighed in, denouncing "poisonous speech" that doesn't help the nominating process. Asked about Jeffress' comments, Perry said he doesn't believe Mormonism is a cult.

(Excerpt) Read more at trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cain; cult; mormons; perry; romney; romney2012
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To: reaganaut

I’m nowhere near evangelical. I don’t claim to be “born again.” I don’t believe that God would ever throw anyone into a pit of fire. I believe that Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and even Muslims can go to heaven, even if they don’t “accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.”

But I am a Christian, whether you believe it or not.


201 posted on 10/11/2011 10:58:15 AM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: sand lake bar

But I am a Christian, whether you believe it or not.

I believe that Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and even Muslims can go to heaven, even if they don’t “accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.”

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You may believe you are a Christian, but your belief (universalism) isn’t Biblical. Sorry.


202 posted on 10/11/2011 11:07:00 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

Then the Bible is either misinterpreted or wrong, as is often the case with the writings of men.


203 posted on 10/11/2011 11:10:48 AM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: sand lake bar
I believe that Christians, Jews, Buddhists, and even Muslims can go to heaven, even if they don’t “accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.”

But I am a Christian, whether you believe it or not.

I'm sure you think you are.

Could you tell us why you think this way?

204 posted on 10/11/2011 11:28:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: sand lake bar
Then the Bible is either misinterpreted or wrong, as is often the case with the writings of men.

If you are correct; why should we value your opinion; as it, too, comes from man.


John 6:28-29 (niv)

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”


205 posted on 10/11/2011 11:30:47 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Clairity

Not sure why anyone calls Romney a Republican..? He’s solidly a democrat and not even a moderate Dem!


206 posted on 10/11/2011 11:35:39 AM PDT by Leep
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To: sand lake bar

So you claim to be a Christian, but believe the Bible is the ‘writings of men’ and wrong.

Then why do you think you are a Christian?

What did Jesus mean when He said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no man comes to the Father but by me”?

Was He lying? Or just wrong?


207 posted on 10/11/2011 11:46:36 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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208 posted on 10/11/2011 11:47:11 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: reaganaut

Like many Christians, I interpret that phrase symbolically.


209 posted on 10/11/2011 12:35:41 PM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: sand lake bar

Like many Christians, I interpret that phrase symbolically.

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No, Christians do not interpret that symbolically, it is either true or not. Either Christ was who He said He was, or He was a liar.

Only people who pretend to be Christians deny the Bible and believe in Universalism.

If Christ isn’t the only way, then why on earth would you claim to be a Christian?


210 posted on 10/11/2011 1:04:13 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: dragonblustar
If he was a Christian, he wouldn't be Mormon now would he?

Such clarity, Yes, you are exactly correct. The book of Mormon is absolutely silly, anyone who doesn't renounce it could be in serious trouble on the "day of trouble".
211 posted on 10/11/2011 1:07:22 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: VRW Conspirator

“I have to ask what does this have to do with the price of tea in China?”

Exactly. I’m not for Romney, but not for religious regions. People need to STFU about the religious aspect of our candidate. Give me an atheist who will follow the Constitution 100% over someone who expounds about his/her religion. The extreme emphasis on the religious issue will be our downfall. The nit-pickey back-and-forth blathering among the candidates about who is or isn’t a “Christian” is pathetic and embarrassing. If the Constitution is honored, then all of our religions will be safe.

Carter and Clinton would be called “Christians”, and where did that get us? IIRC, many of the Founding Fathers were Deists, and it seems they did a pretty good job.


212 posted on 10/11/2011 1:33:10 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: reaganaut

Christ did not write the Bible and everything you said is wrong. And fortunately, there are no Christian Police; only Christian Police wannabees.


213 posted on 10/11/2011 6:34:33 PM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: Clairity
"Bachmann, Cain won't say Romney is a Christian"

Hey, honest to God.. I don't give a $hit

214 posted on 10/11/2011 6:38:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (Sarah you broke my heart~!! Endorse Cain and all is forgiven)
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To: sand lake bar

Nothing I said is wrong. And I still don’t know why you claim to be a Christian when you deny everything about Christ.

Where did I say Christ WROTE the Bible? It is the word of God, given through inspired men.

In short, liberal ‘Christians’ aren’t really Christians at all, they just sometimes ‘play church’. But, hey, thanks for outing yourself.


215 posted on 10/11/2011 7:11:25 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

When I need your further opinion on these matters I’ll give it to you.


216 posted on 10/11/2011 7:36:43 PM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: sand lake bar

Wow. No wonder you have the lack of theology you do. And no one tells me what to do. :)

One thing I hate more than heretics are liberals who pretend to be Christians.


217 posted on 10/11/2011 11:16:03 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

I’m laughing in your general direction—your use of the word “heretic” was a nice touch and a dead giveaway.


218 posted on 10/12/2011 6:09:31 AM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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To: sand lake bar; Elsie; Colofornian; Godzilla

Dead giveaway of what? However, you are in the same camp as the Mormons, not Christian.

And you still haven’t answered why you even want to be considered one? I’m also willing to bet you are a political liberal and thus a troll.

Let me guess, Romeny’s your man?


219 posted on 10/12/2011 8:15:10 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: reaganaut

I will stop chuckling at you long enough to recommend Richard Rohr’s book, Falling Upward. It offers a vision of Christianity quite at odds with yours.


220 posted on 10/12/2011 9:32:34 AM PDT by sand lake bar (I believe in Adam West's invisible hand.)
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