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AFT Fast and Furious: New documents show Attorney General Eric Holder was briefed in July 2010
cbsnews ^ | Monday October 3, 2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 10/03/2011 3:21:11 PM PDT by Bigtigermike

WASHINGTON - New documents obtained by CBS News show Attorney General Eric Holder was sent briefings on the controversial Fast and Furious guns operation as far back as July of 2010. That directly contradicts his statement to Congress on May 3, 2011

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To: heiss

>I want every gop candidate not pushing this to drop out of race.

If they are not bothered by this, they should never be president<

my thoughts ..

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2787321/posts?page=135#135

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2787321/posts?page=138#138


141 posted on 10/04/2011 5:25:55 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
Bottom line is this. It happened in such a way, between agencies that it had to be coordinated from and by Holder.

Holder would not have done this without Obama’s permission.

Obama would not have thought it up on his own .. I can honestly say that HRC was probably the one who devised it.

All this so the regime could accept a UN small-arms treaty.

142 posted on 10/04/2011 5:33:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: little jeremiah

>I strongly suspect that Melman gave a copy of that flash drive to Issa. I think that Issa has *everything*, and right now information is dripping out at just exactly the right rate to blow the Obama administration, and probably the entire Democratic party into pieces between now and the election if they don’t cut him loose pretty soon.<

Agreed. he is single handedly destroying them and making them squirm while he is at it.


143 posted on 10/04/2011 5:34:42 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: MestaMachine

>He wasn’t under oath, but I don’t know. He can always say he didn’t recall. Worked for hillary.<

He most certainly was under oath. It was a congressional hearing.


144 posted on 10/04/2011 5:35:39 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: rodguy911

>I don’t think they will bus Holder.

According to Pajamas Media’s Bob Owens, a really brilliant guy, the plan is to lay it all on ATf and destroy them if necessary.<

They can try, but it won’t stick.

Bottom line is DOJ called the shots, not ATF.

ATF blew the whistle.


145 posted on 10/04/2011 5:39:22 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Bigtigermike

BBBUUUUTT mike doncha know that Roger Clements is much more important then the AG of the United States.

................................
By Dave Sheinin and Spencer S. Hsu
Washington Post Staff Writers
Friday, August 20, 2010

“Roger Clemens, the most decorated pitcher in baseball history, was indicted Thursday on charges of lying two years ago when he told a congressional committee that he never used performance-enhancing drugs. “

......................

And look, the WAPO had TWO (2) writers on that world shattering event.


146 posted on 10/04/2011 5:47:22 AM PDT by marty60
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To: jgge

>He is finished, Obama will throw him under the bus very quickly.<

I don’t think Obama can afford to after Eric so kindly already took heat for dismissing the case where the NBP were found guilty.

The panthers are connected with Zero .. Holder has that. He isn’t taking a ride without his good buddy Obama.

Zero will have to defend Holder to the bitter end or risk being exposed as the radical racist he is.


147 posted on 10/04/2011 5:49:04 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

I love the smell of bus diesel engines running in the morning on Pennsylvania Ave, DC.


148 posted on 10/04/2011 5:49:17 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Munz

My bad. You are absolutely right!

§ 1001. Statements or entries generally
How Current is This? (a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both. If the matter relates to an offense under chapter 109A, 109B, 110, or 117, or section 1591, then the term of imprisonment imposed under this section shall be not more than 8 years.
(b) Subsection (a) does not apply to a party to a judicial proceeding, or that party’s counsel, for statements, representations, writings or documents submitted by such party or counsel to a judge or magistrate in that proceeding.
(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.


149 posted on 10/04/2011 5:49:17 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: yorkie

>I thought Holder would surely have been fired when the New Black Panthers at the polls video was released - but NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo! You see, it’s OK to do whatever you want, no matter HOW corrupt it is, under this administration!<

Do you really wonder why he did that??

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=351545


150 posted on 10/04/2011 5:50:37 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: GOPJ

>Odd how none of the guns went north...

Interesting map. How would they know where the guns went - there were NO tracking devices, right?<

Crime scenes.

ATF had the serial numbers at the time of sale. They were checked against dumped guns at crime scenes. That is why the FBI used the ATF to do this at all.


151 posted on 10/04/2011 5:52:10 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Vaquero

>impeach, convict and JAIL this POS....along with his boss...<

Giving weapons to terrorists is treason ... jail is only suitable as a way point for the gallows IMO.

Give Issa and Grassley all the time they need to make an air tight case


152 posted on 10/04/2011 5:53:29 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz
I believe there is a counter media movement that has been going on for years. Talk radio, the internet, FOX News, etc.

The Tea PArty would not have happened or sustained its growth and produced the results it did without these modern capabilities to pass on "Committees of Correspondence."

I hold out FR as an example where hundreds fo thousands come and lurk and read and learn each day. My own site, JEFFHEAD.COM, has had well over 2 million visits from almost 1 million individual visitors.

I believe 2012 will display this all the more...despite the absolute corruption of the MSM as you have pointed out.

153 posted on 10/04/2011 5:58:00 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Mouton

Issa is a one man wrecking crew. He is crushing them!!!


154 posted on 10/04/2011 5:59:01 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

>All this so the regime could accept a UN small-arms treaty.<

partially - which brings me to another defendant

HRC - has wanted this for the longest time.

I think you have 4 principle players. Holder, Obama, HRC and Napiolitano. Because it is so widespread, and would have required so much control over compartmentalized agencies, each one of them would have had to be involved in this.

My guess is that if they come close to Hillary ... The DNC will feed Obama to the wolves.


155 posted on 10/04/2011 6:01:47 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: All

It definitely seems like he committed perjury. But I don’t think Holder should go down until investigators fully trace it. I guarantee Obama was involved if you keep tracing it. At the very least Obama likely knew about it. This, if it continues to be followed, seems to be worse than watergate.


156 posted on 10/04/2011 6:03:48 AM PDT by wrhssaxensemble (We need an electable conservative in 2012!)
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To: cyclotic
Seems like forgetting one point of a meeting ended Scooter Libby in prison, so same standard applies to Holder.

Spot on!

157 posted on 10/04/2011 6:05:15 AM PDT by Lady Lucky
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To: Jeff Head

>I believe 2012 will display this all the more...despite the absolute corruption of the MSM as you have pointed out.<

I hope so Jeff.
I have read how most people no longer trust the MSM. it is up to like 65% of viewers no longer believe what they see.

That most information is coming from blogs etc etc etc .

Hopefully the leftists will give up somewhat and start doing REAL reporting again.


158 posted on 10/04/2011 6:12:58 AM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Obama is stuck with Holder. He doesn’t dare fire him for fear of offending his base.


159 posted on 10/04/2011 6:28:06 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: cyclotic
Seems like forgetting one point of a meeting ended Scooter Libby in prison, so same standard applies to Holder.

In your dreams. Standards are hardly ever applied equally in DC.

160 posted on 10/04/2011 6:31:25 AM PDT by P8riot (I carry a gun because I can't carry a cop.....Eagle Scout since Sep 9, 1970)
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