[Cincinatus' Wife]

Texas's Immigration Choices Rick Perry's pragmatism draws fire from his presidential rivals - …….”Most children of illegal immigrants—some 73%, according to the Pew Hispanic Center—are U.S. citizens by birth. But as of 2008 there were 1.5 million children in the U.S. who are illegal. The Supreme Court has ruled that these children are entitled to a K-12 education. Lawmakers in Texas, which is home to the nation's second-largest illegal population after California, determined that tuition breaks for these residents made economic sense. So did the state's business community, which lobbied for the measure on the grounds that a better educated population would translate into stronger economic growth.”……..

Texas Gov. Perry uses ethnically charged language to defend immigration position…………”He opposes the federal version of the tuition law, which Hispanic groups have pushed hard for and which also includes a path to citizenship for students. And during the debate, his staff emailed a news release to reporters that sounded a lot like all the other GOP candidates: “Gov. Perry opposes amnesty and the federal DREAM Act. Washington must first secure the border before we can have any rational discussion about immigration reform. Once that is accomplished, then we can have a conversation about how to address immigration.”

Rick Perry an immigration radical? Hardly …Overall during 2009-10, 16,476 students qualified under the residency law for in-state rates: 12,028 were enrolled at Texas' 80 community, technical and state colleges; 4,403 were at the 35 public universities; and 45 were at eight health-related institutions. That represents about 1 percent of all students enrolled in the state's colleges and universities, according to the Coordinating Board..... This summer, the U.S. Supreme Court also rejected a challenge to a similar law in California. -- Maybe this kind of policy choice wasn't right for Romney's Massachusetts, Santorum's Pennsylvania or Bachmann's Minnesota. But Texas lawmakers, including Perry, have concluded it's right for Texas: a public investment that will yield a long-term payoff for the state's well-being.”

Study: In-state tuition for RI non-citizens would raise revenue

[Cincinatus' Wife]

Rick Perry's Intriguing Idea for Bi-National Health Insurance …“Contrary to Sen. Santorum’s impression, the idea here was to explore the possibility of allowing private insurers to cover health services provided in either Texas or Mexico. It was an attempt at studying the deregulation of the provision of health insurance by private entities.

[ejonesie22]

Sorry but I am heartless...

[Condor51]

Oh well, I tried. I must be heartless.

[dangus]

What a load of crap.

>> Stated another way, only 1 percent of Texas’ illegal immigrants got the in-state rates in 2010. And of those, 73 percent got an average reduction of $2,600 or less; the remaining 27 percent average closer to $10,000 per year. <<

What only 1% got tuition breaks? Yes, because only one percent started college. Is there a soul around who believed Romney meant that those not going to college got tuition breaks for not going to college? YET THIS LYING CRAP would leave most people to believe that 99% of Illegal immigrants were denied tuition benefits, when none were.

Romney said “at the University of Texas,” because he meant “at the University of Texas.” The fact that less valued Texas universities have lower out-of-state tuition rates hardly changes Romney’s math.

>> So let’s return to Romney’s statement: “Four years of college, almost $100,000 discount if you are an illegal alien (and) go to the University of Texas.”
For the 612 affidavit students at the University of Texas last year, Romney’s figure of $22,000 per year is approximately correct, even a bit low; but quadrupling the real average adds up to $90,800 over four years, not $100,000. <<

Romney’s 100% accurate. Most college students do not graduate in four years flat. Romney said, “average.”

>> The vast majority of affidavit students in Texas last year got an average in-state tuition reduction of $1,600 to $2,600. If they got that rate for four years, the total “discount” would be $6,400 to $10,400. And that group of 12,028 community college affidavit students made up less than 1 percent of the 1,364,911 college students enrolled in Texas last year. <<

Once again, Romney was plain that he was referring to the University of Texas, not local community colleges; not a soul in the room expects that Romney meant local community colleges.

KNOCK OFF THE CRAP!!! I CAN’T BELIEVE PERRY’S RADICAL LEFT-WING DEFENDERS AT THE AUSTIN STATESMAN HAVE ME DEFENDING ROMNEY!!!!!!!

[anton]

Perry is not a choice because his love of illegals is emotional. He won’t every change that. Romney made a horrible decision on Romneycare, but, he is not emotionally attached to single payer care. His pledge to repeal Obamacare is all I need to prefer him to the La Raza candidate. Of course, I would prefer Santorum, but that is not looking so likely right now.

[deport]

Wasn’t it Sanitorum in the second debate that first used this analogy of a break over other students from other states? However those US citizen non Texas students from other states can move to Texas, take one year and establish Texas residency and get the same in state tuition after.

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[matginzac]

Here’s another fact - if you are related to the Kenyan in the white house and you live in ‘Tusetts and you are here illegally, on welfare or selling booze to minors...
you get a PASS.

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The only other chink in his armor is his support for a law he signed which allowed for non-citizen children domiciled in Texas without immigration documentation to be considered Texas residents for the purposes of paying college tuition. From the boos in the crowds it was apparent that most Republicans nation-wide do not support this. Nonetheless, Perry explains very clearly and carefully why he signed what was a veto proof bill passed with four “no” votes out of 183 Texas legislators, with Republicans in firm control of both chambers.

But here’s what Yankees like Michelle Bachmann, Mitt Romney and Rick Santorum don’t get. Texas is not the only state that has done this. New Mexico and California have as well. Not surprisingly, Arizona is the only state with an actual border with Mexico that hasn’t. In addition to Arizona, only three other states prohibit in-state tuition for children with undocumented immigration status. However, in addition to Texas, New Mexico, and California, eight other states specifically allow it. These include Kansas (passed with a Republican supermajority in both houses), Nebraska (non-partisan, but with a supermajority of members who were otherwise Republicans), and Utah (again, with a dual supermajority of Republicans), New York (split control), Oklahoma (Republican House and even split in the Senate), as well as Illinois, Washington, and Wisconsin (Democratic simple majority in both houses).

Now you may be thinking to yourself, if only four states have prohibited state universities from considering undocumented students as residents, and eight have specifically permitted it, what about the other thirty-eight? They have not legislated on the matter at all. What is not prohibited is allowed.

One Statesman in the Field

[jgge]

What is really upsetting about this super liberal Romney is that he did absolutely nothing to illegal immigration when he was governor of Massachusetts and illegal immigrants get in state tuitions in Massachusetts as they do in most other states. The hypocrisy is really stunning but Romney is a liberal after all and hence a hypocrite.

If Romney is the nominee he would be the dream opponent for Obama. He will fit the liberal campaign playbook to the T. They will be running the most brutal, and unfortunately the most effective, class warfare campaign in American politics by running on the theme that Obama is the defender of the working citizen against the super rich and greedy Wall Street Banker Romney the founder and CEO of Bain Capital the wall street firm which destroyed other companies and caused many to lose their jobs.

[Tim n Texas]

The major point is that Romney is willing to twist facts beyond the point of reality... even to his own base.

I know where Perry stands, I don’t with Romney.

The worst we get from Perry is a small tuition deduction, which is likely cheaper than maintaining them on the “public dole”... What’s the worst damage Mitt could do?

[Jmouse007]

I am so sick and tired of these politicians and their minions making excuses while giving ILLEGAL ALIENS preference over American citizens at every turn! Just because other politicians are also pandering to illegal aliens so as to not upset the "Hispanic population" does not make it RIGHT!

This argument they are using is like that of a child:

"Come on mom and dad, let me do _ _ _ _ (fill in the blank) because everyone else is doing it."

"So what if their illegal alien parents broke the law to come to America; so what if their parents committed a felony because they had to STEAL an American CITIZEN'S identity and Social Security number to get a job. So what if they and their illegal alien parents continue to break the law by claiming to be someone they are not or by working under the table, and taking jobs from American citizens by the millions while paying NO taxes. So what if while paying no taxes these same ILLEGAL aliens and their children are also availing themselves of all sorts of health care, welfare benefits and in-state tuition to the tune of hundreds of BILLIONS of dollars that should be going to American citizens who are PAYING FOR IT ALL! " So what it they are breaking the law by driving without a drivers license, without the car being registered so that if they get pulled over they are given a legal slap on the wrist and sent on their way knowing full-well that they will totally ignore the ticket and never make their court appearance "... So what if they are driving without car insurance so WHEN, not IF the hit someone or kill someone the injured American citizen will have to pay for the repairs and health recovery with their own car insurance."

"SO WHAT?... They are ILLEGAL ALIENS, they are and represent, the future voting block and MY future constituents who will put ME in to political power and keep ME in power."

"As for all you little American citizen shmucks who are having your jobs taken, your identities stolen, your tax money squandered, and who ultimately have to PAY FOR AND PUT UP WITH ALL OF THIS injustice;... DON'T BE SO 'HEARTLESS'; sit down, shut up and take it! WHY? Because: "HISPANIC ILLEGAL aliens come first!"

This is the exact position and attitude of our vaunted politicians, "elected officials" and the main-stream, leftist, communist, socialist, Marxist, "main-stream media."

Is it any wonder why honest, hard working American citizens who have played by the rules all their lives and are continually getting the shaft, are totally up in arms and have finally said "Enough is enough, this pandering to ILLEGAL ALIENS has got to stop and it has got to stop NOW!" "We will not support or vote for ANYONE who continues to coddle illegal aliens and give them 'rights' and benefits that rightly, morally and legally belong to American citizens alone!"

[GOPsterinMA]

Romney had illegals cutting his lawn at his mansion in Belmont, MA - he watched them! Milt tried to deflect the heat on the issue by saying it was the landscaping company’s responsibility to make sure the workers were legal.

For God’s sake, you’re the governor and don’t have the sense to know who’s working on your personal property? And he’s going to secure the border? REALLY?

And then there’s that little RomneyCare thing that he headed up...you know, the predecessor to ObamaCare.

Yeah, Mitt’s just great!

Perry ain’t perfect...but has he sat and watched illegals cut his lawn? Did he create the inspiration for ObamaCare?

[Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears]

In-State Tuition Debate Isn't About In-State Tuition (It's about AMNESTY)

[Marty62]

Texas tuition is among the lowest in the Nation.

Apparently ROMNEY has the Obama inside the beltway disease that is at epidemic purportion.

LYING

But ROMNUTS knows his audience. The Rabid socialist Radicals in the “Repub” underbelly.

[Oceander]

Just to put up a "visual aid" for the Romney folks: