Posted on 09/26/2011 11:29:43 AM PDT by reaganaut1
President Obama has not been particularly successful in fostering the creation of jobs. But he thinks he has found a way to pry open doors in the workplace for many of the unemployed, especially those who have been out of work for a long time.
Mr. Obamas jobs bill would prohibit employers from discriminating against job applicants because they are unemployed.
Under the proposal, it would be an unlawful employment practice if a business with 15 or more employees refused to hire a person because of the individuals status as unemployed.
Unsuccessful job applicants could sue and recover damages for violations, just like when an employer discriminates on the basis of a persons race, color, religion, sex or national origin.
White House officials see discrimination against the unemployed as a serious problem. In a radio interview last month, Mr. Obama said such discrimination made absolutely no sense, especially at a time when many people, through no fault of their own, had been laid off.
Mr. Obamas proposal would also prohibit employment agencies and Web sites from carrying advertisements for job openings that exclude people who are unemployed. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has received reports of such advertisements but does not have data to show how common they are.
Republicans and some employers criticized the White House proposal. They said that discrimination was not common and that the proposed remedy could expose employers to a barrage of lawsuits.
We do not see a need for it, said Michael J. Eastman, executive director of labor law policy at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.
Already, Mr. Eastman said, the Civil Rights Act outlaws employment practices that have a disparate impact on the basis of race, color, religion, sex or national origin,
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Here's a rule of thumb...
When it's ridiculous AND funny, it's from The Onion.
When it's just ridiculous, it's from the NYT.
Next up, you won’t be able to discriminate against people who smell like a cow’s ass.
A feel good idea like so many liberal ideas. How have the age discrimination laws worked out, huh?
Nonsense. Someone who has been out of work for a year is, by odds, a higher risk to not show up and perform every day than someone who has been continously employed. Its a fact. Why take an unnecessary risk ?
Taking a 2 year breather because Obonehead has invented extended unemployment benefits is not something that should show up on a resume.
“They said that discrimination was not common”
I in no way support Obama’s proposal, but that’s a load of BS.
That would cover ALL his supporters.
looks like he wants to keep lawyers and court clerks employed.
looks like he wants to keep lawyers and court clerks employed.
This is the standard employee number that the government decided on when looking at a company and deciding if they must comply with EEOC. And since this is where the unemployment discrimination is trying to fall, I'm pretty sure that's where the got the number from.
They've just guaranteed that no unemployed person will get an interview. These people are idiots.
I can hear the stock answer. We are not hiring
now or excepting resumes. It will be up to you to
figure out how to somehow get your foot in the door,
and then maybe you will get an interview, but threaten
a business with a law suit? How to win friends and
influence people, and how not to get a job.
Unfortunately this is often untrue. We look and hundreds of resumes weekly and if someone has not worked for the last 12+ months they are generally not considered for the open position. Our experience is that people who have been unemployed for an extended period, over 18 months, are not as employable. Their job and life skills have eroded, this is undeniable.
The extended UE benefits programs have been a disaster. Dictated and financed by the Feds, implemented by the states, they have provided a false sense of security. I cannot tell you the number of jobs offered that people have turned down because it will “disrupt their benefits”.
90 days of UE benefits max, then welfare if you cannot get a job. At least we can call it what it truly is.
schu
You have not yet seen the mass business exoduous that is coming out of the USA. Think job outsourcing has been a problem in the past? HaHA just wait until this guy has his way with us....................
An essay in the WSJ about a week ago discussed this. It was singled out as an example of how truly stupid the man is.
Let me tell you. I watched an American company’s IT department lay off two dozen employees (altogether) in two consecutive years, every one of them over 45, all of them U.S. born or naturalized citizens, not one of them an Indian with an H1B or a green card. The jobs went bye bye to India.
No one had sued, and if they had chosen to, the company would have dragged them through courts for years as they had done to a Filipina woman, who had a solid discrimination case, including witnesses to a statement made by the CEO himself, and who eventually prevailed, but any payment (if she ever collected, of which I am not certain) would have gone to pay off her attorneys.
The first sentence...
President Obama has not been particularly successful in fostering the creation of jobs.
And then later in the article...
Mr. Gohmert said the proposal, if passed, would encourage litigation by sending a message to millions of Americans: If youre unemployed and you go to apply for a job, and youre not hired for that job, see a lawyer. You may be able to file a claim because you got discriminated against because you were unemployed.
This will help trial lawyers who are not having enough work, Mr. Gohmert said.
Of course, nothing in those two excerpts is debatable. Still, it's a bit surprising to see in the Times. If Obama is losing the support of the Gray Lady, he may be in deeper trouble than we think.
I also noticed the first example of snarkiness you gave.
No it isn't. The vast majority of those on long term unemployment are lazy or unskilled and unhireable. They call in sick, come in late, and look for any excuse to fake an injury and go on workmans comp.
There has been many studies on the subject and the numbers don't lie.
It is just like those with bad credit being charged more for home and auto insurance, they on average turn in a ton of claims and engage in the majority of fraud cases.
OTOH, if it does pass, when we throw his ass out, we can say were protecting him.
OTOH, if it does pass, when we throw his ass out, we can say we're protecting him.
you forgot those who sue their employeers. If you are unemployeed there is a chance you previously sued your employer for some reason. How much of the layoffs in 2008 were a way to clean house from the deadweights?
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