Posted on 09/21/2011 12:19:00 PM PDT by sunmars
CBS News recently got their hands on secret recordings of conversations about Fast and Furious that took place between an ATF agent and a gun store owner, both of whom were located in the Phoenix area (and both of whom were thoroughly acquainted with Fast and Furious).
The recordings captured agent Hope McAllister talking with Andre Howard, owner of Lone Wolf Trading Company, at a time when Howard was noticeably worried that Fast and Furious was going to become public knowledge or be put under the microscope of a congressional investigation. Howard especially feared that Senator Charles Grassley might push for an inquiry of some kind. Thus at least four times in the recordings he can be heard mentioning Grassley, and one of those four times it’s to say someone needs to tell Grassley “to sit [his] a—down.”
What’s also interesting about the recordings is that although they were made in mid-March 2011, Attorney General Eric Holder’s name comes up quite a bit. And his name doesn’t come up because they’re afraid he’s going to find out about Fast and Furious but because he was the one they were counting on to deflect attention from it.
In other words, he was well aware of the operation by mid-March 2011, and this is somewhat ironic because in answering questions from Congressman Darrell Issa on May 3 he said he only learned of Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks.” This means he led Issa to believe the earliest he knew anything about the operation was sometime in April. Yet on the recordings (from mid-March), it is clear Holder was the one Howard hoped would stop the investigative momentum by responding to a letter regarding Fast and Furious from the House Oversight Committee:
(Excerpt) Read more at biggovernment.com ...
Hopefully, when the BATF and FBI called to set up an appointment they all bug the meeting place.
Why in the world would a gun dealer trust the BATF, knowing full well the Dumorats want them out of business.
Excellent point. Never occurred to me, but it certainly rings true.
Perhaps the media made a mistake in going after Sarah with so much vile hatred. They did their job too well for their own good. Now that everybody knows every little detail about her, she doesn’t have to worry about skeletons in her closet. (Mawgli and Chewbacca have much to worry about if the MSM decides to go after them.)
Welcome to the world of totally out of control government.
I won’t be satisfied until we see some orange jumpsuited perp-walks.
Make Holder and Burke cell mates!
I won’t be satisfied until we see some orange jumpsuited perp-walks.
Make Holder and Burke cell mates; then put Obama in the next cell!
ping
bump
It is a million times worse than watergate.
“Why in the world would a gun dealer trust the BATF”
Maybe because if they didn’t go along, BATF could pull their licenses, and they’d be out of bidness?????
Holder must go. Worst Attorney General we’ve had in ages.
And the reason I think she says this is going to be an unconventional campaign season. I think when she declares she’s going to open up on all corruption whether it’s elected officials or the MSM. My thinking is that she is preparing to cut to the quick and expose lots.
“Doesn’t this prove that Holder deliberately lied to congress without a doubt.”
“Well dang, aren’t we just all picky and fussy!
It’s just hard evidence, not like anybody that matters will want to know. “
Everyone lies to Congress. That’s not impeachable. (/sarc based on Clinton’s impeachment trial)
To heck with an impeachment, can it be prosecuted?
TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 47 > § 1001
§ 1001. Statements or entries generally
(a) Except as otherwise provided in this section, whoever, in any matter within the jurisdiction of the executive, legislative, or judicial branch of the Government of the United States, knowingly and willfully—
(1) falsifies, conceals, or covers up by any trick, scheme, or device a material fact;
(2) makes any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or representation; or
(3) makes or uses any false writing or document knowing the same to contain any materially false, fictitious, or fraudulent statement or entry;
shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 5 years or, if the offense involves international or domestic terrorism (as defined in section 2331), imprisoned not more than 8 years, or both.
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(c) With respect to any matter within the jurisdiction of the legislative branch, subsection (a) shall apply only to—
(1) administrative matters, including a claim for payment, a matter related to the procurement of property or services, personnel or employment practices, or support services, or a document required by law, rule, or regulation to be submitted to the Congress or any office or officer within the legislative branch; or
(2) any investigation or review, conducted pursuant to the authority of any committee, subcommittee, commission or office of the Congress, consistent with applicable rules of the House or Senate.
Whaddya mean I'm grounded? All the kids are doing it...
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200 known dead- so far- resulting from Gunwalker and the Merida Initiative, versus 45 killed in the crash of United Airlines Flight 533, which killed CBS newswoman Michelle Clark, Illinois Congressman George Collins and Watergate burglar Howard Hunt's wife Dorothy, who was carrying more than $10,000 dollars with her in her purse; more may have been recovered by one of the 45 FBI agents who took charge of the crash scene, arriving less than an hour after the crash. Follow the money.
The day after the crash, President Nixon appointed White House aide Egil Krogh as Undersecretary of Transportation, supervising the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Association - the two agencies charged with investigating the airline crash. A week later, Nixon's deputy assistant Alexander P. Butterfield was made the new head of the FAA, and five weeks later Dwight L. Chapin, the president's appointment secretary, become a top executive with United Airlines. Mr. Krogh would later be convicted of complicity in the break-in of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist's office along with Hunt, G. Gordon Liddy and a small cast of CIA-trained and retained Cuban black-bag specialists. Mr. Chapin was convicted of making false and/or misleading statements in connection to his involvement and spent less than a year in prison; Mr. Butterfield, who previously headed the office that secretly taped President Nixon's White House meetings in the Oval Office, was not prosecuted or convicted in the Watergate scandal.
Why, yes, this is indeed like Watergate, only worse.
Only the coverup is like Watergate. The crime behind the coverup is worse.
No one died at Watergate.
There was no subversion of the Constitution at Watergate.
Only the coverup is like Watergate. The crime behind the coverup is worse.
No one died at Watergate.
There was no subversion of the Constitution at Watergate.
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