Posted on 09/13/2011 5:07:39 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
Republican Presidential candidate Ron Paul was hushed by deafening boos from a crowd of Tea Partiers at Monday's GOP Presidential debate, after suggesting America's foreign police played a role in the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
Mr Paul attempted to position his argument to slash military spending, contending that occupation was the 'real motivation' behind acts of terrorism by Muslim extremists against the U.S.
But a provocative retort from presidential candidate, Pennsylvania lawmaker Rick Santorum, instead drew wide support, after he dismissed Mr Paul's comments as 'irresponsible'.
Prior to the Tea Party debate, Mr Paul, 76, had reflected on the U.S. response to the 9/11 attacks in his weekly Texas Straight Talk column.
He argued that 'the attacks of 9/11 deserved a response. But the manner in which we responded has allowed radicals in the Muslim world to advance a very threatening narrative about us and our motivation in occupying their lands.'
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islam has been at war with us since 1802, with the Barbary Pirates.
Long before there was Israel, palestinian refugee camps, and Long before we were playing ...”””””Globo-Cop”””””
For Mr. Paul, I have 3 words...
“ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY”
That's a little more accurate!!!
Or can you explain to me why the US is so often dictating Israeli policy?
Did you know we are STILL rotating troops in and out of Bosnia? Why? There was never a declared war, or even a "resolution for the use of force".
When you hear folks like Dr. Paul going on about stuff like that, this is what it means. It's much less than "anti-Israel" and much more "anti-Global Nanny"/"entangling alliances".
Just hoping the fruit fell far away from the tree in this case....
The average Ron Paul supporter is best summed up as Hyde from That 70s Show - smokes too much weed, thinks everything’s a conspiracy, and lives in someone else’s basement.
I sort of was a Paul supporter until that comment. I’m against continuing the wars (and starting one in Libya). I’m also against our playing globo-cop the world over. Although I support Israel, I don’t believe they are 100% right and the Palis have some legitimate grievances. Fighting a “War on Terror” ad aeternam is a joke.
But Paul’s comments take the cake. Blaming us for 9/11 is just foolishness of the highest degree. Killing Bin Laden and neutralizing Al Qaeda was 100% right in my book.
For the record, I’m a vet w/ two post 9/11 deployments.
Did you hear the audio that Glenn Beck just played of a drunken driver being pulled over by the police?
He keeps slurredly insisting to the cops that they need to read the Constition, and that they don’t understand it, etc.
At the end, while handcuffed in the backseat of the police cruiser, he shouts, drunkenly, “Ron Paul 2012!! Ron Paul 2012!!”
Agreed. It's about time the GP told his followers to F-off, once and for all. Stop being afraid. This man is a traitor. I have no doobt whatsoever were this 1938 he would be busy explaining why Hitler annexed the Sudentenland because "Germans were not being treated fairly"
We need a candidate who is pro-America and pro-Israel but who is also not afraid to say that the policy of “nation building” has been an utter failure and cannot continue. Who on the podium has the guts to do that?
I think he considers himself an isolationist in the George Washington vein, but he simply isn't. The situation is different. We were a weak and vulnerable country in 1790 and there were mighty world powers who were more than willing to gobble us up or subordinate us as a vassal state so we had to avoid getting sucked into such entanglents with world powers. Staying out of the way was essential to our survival.
Today we are the primary world power. As such we have mortal enemies seeking to destroy us simply because we are rich and powerful, and we stand for things which threaten them and they want to replace us and take our place and our wealth. As the big dog on the block we can no longer run or hide and get away with it because we are small and far away and not much of a factor. Our enemies will pursue us to our grave if we do.
Ron Paul is operating under a delusion and that is dangerous in a President. Look how Obama's delusions are turning out for us!
...What we should do is open the borders, let all the despots in, then build a fence to keep them here. Then we can clean up the rest of the earth...
It was quite a coup in the conservative movement in the 1950s to get conservatives to not apply the same skepticism and standards to the motives and results of the US Gov'ts foreign policies as they would to its domestic policies.
He is not wrong when he says Al Qaeda attacked us because of our troops in Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda said as much.
He could have then said that is no excuse, or it was a great evil or something... Instead, he makes it seem like a reasonable response to a perceived slight.
Agreed. Islam is incompatible with freedom. I am familiar with the teachings of Islam (I went to school with many muslims, of multiple sects, from different countries), and know this too be true. We don’t need another apologizer in Chief.
Thanks for the Google stream, they don’t support your assertion that we have bases in over 100 countries, or anything like it. And most of our Mideast presence came about subsequent to Saddam Hussein’s invation of Kuwait.
Agreed, I forget the exact saying, but something akin to “judging a (wo)man by the company of his(/her) fellows.” I have never subscribed to the “big L” Libertarian party, but didn’t used to be so opposed to them. But as many on FR have stated, so many are little more than quasi-Anarchists (they also call them “Low-tax Democrats” but I’m not sure that is as accurate). There is a place for limited government, but some want tthere to be none. The tricky part is to learn when that there are times that they cry “States’ rights” when they really mean “I don’t have another argument, and this will shut down the conversation.” I’m thoroughly convinced that when issues get back into the hands of the states, they’ll fight tooth and nail against them (which I find nothing wrong with), but they should just come out and name their position in the first place. Then again, I’m not a politician, and don’t have to please anyone with flattery.
We don't need to be anywhere other than here and where ever we are fighting an actual war.
More links you will ignore...
http://siadapp.dmdc.osd.mil/personnel/MILITARY/miltop.htm
http://www.geopoliticalmonitor.com/us-military-bases-a-global-footprint-1/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_military_bases
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