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New York Times: Did Sarah Palin really say that? Wow.
New York Times via The American Conservative ^ | September 9, 2011 | Rod Dreher

Posted on 09/09/2011 8:27:12 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Edited on 09/10/2011 11:06:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Sarah Palin said some amazing and terrific things the other day

(Excerpt) Read more at amconmag.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bachmann; cantwinmeme; corporatism; cronycapitalism; dsj; economy; enemedia; indianola; iowa; obama; palin; palinpolicy; palinpredictions; palinpunditry; perry; populist; roddreher; stayonsidelinesmeme; teaparty; waronsarah
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To: alstewartfan

But what is her idea? HOW is she going to accomplish whatever it is she’s advocating? I’m sorry, I have no idea what she’s talking about but it surely sounded purty.


201 posted on 09/10/2011 4:21:18 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: P-Marlowe

“You forget—the McCain campaign was pretty much anti-Palin all along......But SHE was PRO-McCain. She even endorsed his senate primary 2 years later.”

Good point.....I noticed she has distanced herself from him ever since.....I tend to agree with those who say it was a one time thank you and now she has moved on.....I don’t see anything McCain in her Tea Party speeches, and she took a swipe at his dumb Hobbit’s comment against the Tea Party also.....If and when she announces there will be questions about McCain and I’m sure she will handle it respectfully because that’s who she is.....But, McCain DOES NOT EQUAL PALIN.....NO WAY.....


202 posted on 09/10/2011 4:25:36 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: aruanan
OK, WHY would Palin even consider going "third party"? Does that mean she'll go for the Republican nomination and then if she fails at getting the nomination, she will run as "third party", or would she just not even try to get the Republican nomination but simply start a "third party", on her own?>

If she can't win the Republican nomination, how can she win a general as a "third party"?

203 posted on 09/10/2011 4:31:50 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma ( You cannot elevate Palin by tearing down Perry)
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To: P-Marlowe

“She publicly supported the TARP bailout.

Was she honestly in favor of it or was she repaying a political favor?

Give me your honest answer.”

NO SHE DIDN’T.....Give me a link where she supported TARP.....She’s on record saying she would not have supported a debt ceiling increase also, but said she thought they would raise it, which they did.....


204 posted on 09/10/2011 4:36:16 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: 3722535r

I believe that Sarah did not support TARP but did take some of the money while she was governor.


205 posted on 09/10/2011 4:38:49 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine's brother (Mark Steyn, Thomas Sowell, Shelby Steele are good for the soul)
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To: mazda77

“His chances were DEAD before he goofed up to pick her. If it hadn’t been for his blunders, she could have carried him to 1600.”

She had carried the ticket to 49% against 42% until McCain threw the election by suspending the campaign.....The numbers dropped drastically after that.....


206 posted on 09/10/2011 4:40:18 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: 3722535r

She supported it in the Katie Couric interview. What her motivations were is really beside the point. She publicly supported TARP.


207 posted on 09/10/2011 4:41:53 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: alstewartfan

“That was canned BS rhetoric, prepared by the McCain people, I guarantee. Those are not Sarah’s words. Bob”

I agree.....Not Palin....


208 posted on 09/10/2011 4:44:09 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I cannot believe that there is another candidate that can lead the causes she’s artculated so well and in such clear, simple to understand terms.

I just do NOT see her handing off this (Here-to-for never mentioned) baton to someone else to fight the crony capitalism and corruption she has put front and center. We all know it exists..and may have believed/hoped our candidate in previous elections would fight this rather than be swept into it, only to be disappointed time and time again. She, however, can do it. She is not ‘owned’ by anyone...and she is NOT for sale. I so firmly believe that. Go, Sarah.


209 posted on 09/10/2011 4:50:25 AM PDT by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“But SHE SAID THOSE WORDS. It may have been canned BS fed to her by some campaign lackey, but when they came out of her mouth SHE OWNED THEM!!!....”

Another good point.....As a Palin supporter I have to agree that hurts.....McCain was a thorn in her side.....Brought her to National prominence very quickly, but the association is a negative.....I believe that will all be forgotten (except for the diehards like yourself) as she continues with her own message this time.....I have no doubt Palin if elected will stay on message and clean up like she did in Alaska......


210 posted on 09/10/2011 4:52:01 AM PDT by 3722535r
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She's right, the problem is the ruling class, which is enabled by a two party system. The founders feared this outcome, but the only effective way to prevent it is to surmount the human nature of risk aversion and follow the leader.

I'm NOT hopeful that her point will prevail in what are essentially popular elections in a country that practices universal suffrage. A majority of voters is now fully invested in the party system, and receives cash benefits. The country is past the tipping point, a hard fall is a comin'. The system is too complex to unwind gracefully.

211 posted on 09/10/2011 4:52:38 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: P-Marlowe

So, you can change your mind, but when it comes to Palin?


212 posted on 09/10/2011 5:02:27 AM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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To: 3722535r
There isn't one Palin supporter that actually liked her support of McCain. Outside of the weekend rally she attended with him, she didn't step foot in Arizona again to help him. But he was sure to use her political capital for his gain. Then of course, there's the McCain family swipes at Palin, even even subtle swipes from McCain himself. Then last weekend in Iowa, Palin took a good swipe at McCain with her 'And hobbits? Don't even know what that means (or something like that).'

People here want to make things out like McCain/Palin are best buddies. But if anyone studies the time since the 2008 campaign, it's pretty clear to me McCain doesn't like Palin and seems to me it's pretty clear Palin doesn't like him.

Picking her (he wanted Lieberman) was allegedly to get the grassroots AND to deflate the 'first black nominee' balloon. What he got was a LOT more than he intended, including a rock star who overshadowed him at every single event they were at. As someone who witnessed McCain/Palin first hand in Grand Rapids, Michigan, I can tell you with 100% confidence the crowd was there to see HER, and her alone. The loudest applause was for her and her alone. And I firmly believe this rally is the one she began 'going rogue' as she began to separate her views from McCain's.

With all that said, there isn't a single conservative out there that hasn't endorsed a RINO at one point or another. Whether we like it or not, it is a political game and reality.

213 posted on 09/10/2011 5:05:25 AM PDT by rintense (Polls are for strippers and cross country skiing. ~ Sarah Palin, 9.3.11)
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To: tirednvirginia

One person sees negatives where another sees positives. Can’t please everyone; that’s how we ended up with RINOs.


214 posted on 09/10/2011 5:13:09 AM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (http://www.honorflight.org/)
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To: P-Marlowe; wardaddy
Those democrats no longer exist. They are either Republicans now or they are dead.Ya but new ones growed up...

I've talked to a lot of people who voted for Obama who claim they won't again AND who like what Sarah Palin has to say...

There are some patriotic Democrats out there...Obama's numbers have crashed and those Democrats are going to look for someone besides Obama...

215 posted on 09/10/2011 5:13:53 AM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailerpark...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sarah Palin knows exactly what she is doing, AND "they" hate her. The "they" being exactly who she is discussing here.

But come on folks, that doesn't mean it is necessary she run for President, rather it is necessary her voice be heard over the globalist "they's" control of the Matrix (Media). The Media is the now the enemy of the USA, and has been for the last decades (at least the enemy of that which the USA was founded).

The obsession about Sarah's presidential intentions only inculcates more obsession with presidential and centralized authority. That is EXACTLY opposite of what she, and the Tea Party, stand for. They stand for reduction of federal government authority, and greater trust in the responsibility of the individual and lesser jurisdictions.

The real battle is to break the heinous internationalist cabal, and get out the message of what conservatism is, personal responsibility, self honesty, individual liberty, self honesty, moral consciousness, and how they once made the USA exceptional.

Johnny Suntrade

216 posted on 09/10/2011 5:15:07 AM PDT by jnsun (The Left: the need to manipulate others because of nothing productive to offer.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Palin is coming. And the Tea Party is coming with her.

And be boldened by the fact that there are many many many of us that are not active Tea Party "Members" that are coming right along with you. The Tea Party is much bigger than anyone in the MSM could possibly conceive.

217 posted on 09/10/2011 5:21:34 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: nathanbedford

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2776121/posts?page=34#34

very good


218 posted on 09/10/2011 5:26:20 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: jnsun
Assuming arguendo that the goal is to break BOTH legs of the ruling class; that is, to discredit the establishment GOP just as well as the establishment DEM parties, it will serve us well to have a GOP president suffer/create just as much trouble as Obama has for the DEMs.

A substantial fraction of the voting public is still inclined to believe that "if the GOP gets control of the federal government, then the federal government will reduce itself." They only event that will dissuade some of them from this view is GOP obtaining control, and (yet again) not delivering.

My point being, it may be in Palin's best interest (and in the long run, the country's best interest) to stay out of the race for this cycle, and maybe as many as three after this one.

219 posted on 09/10/2011 5:27:15 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma

Palin isn’t going 3rd party. This is pure fantasy by some of her supporters. Palin has never given the slightest indication she’s anything but a committed conservative Republican.


220 posted on 09/10/2011 5:29:09 AM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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