Posted on 08/22/2011 6:05:46 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
This movie, "The Help" has been written, filmed and distributed with the sole purpose of inciting violence at a politically fragil time in this country. Yes, some of the events in the movie occurred, but it is nowhere representative of society as a whole.
As a matter of fact, the historical background of a lot of leading Democrats would tie directly to this film, but getting the general public to notice that at this time would be futile. Some unbelievably emotional scenes exist in this movie to denigrate white society to the fullest.
I can not believe the timing of the release of this film. The primary "evil" white woman character could very easily be a young Nancy Pelosi. Whoever has decided to release such a film at this time into a politically-charged environment bears a LOT of responsibility for the effects.
They had a good editor who saw the potential of the book when others couldn’t. She saw the author’s gift and made a masterpiece out of the book. And don’t discount the work of the copyeditors. This book was just about flawless, making it extremely easy to read. Book publishing is doing well these days because of such talented people, among other factors.
I hear you. The people that see all color and it’s dividing lines are Democrats. It is sad how the liberals have skewed reality. They say the greatest manipulation is to accuse others of what one is themselves doing. This is the great case of the liberals. Sadly many have listened to their lying dribble.
If you know a (or more) great editor(s) please, please send me their info. :).
I am sure the author would love what you said that about hearing the dialects and accents. She said for her the cadences of the dialogue/dialect were so important to hear as she wrote them. She could hear them deep inside of her as she wrote. What a great perception you have to enjoyed that additional layer to the book withe the audio :).
Well it is tough to know as all the names have been changed :). We don’t want anyone to get sued now do we? Lol. Yes. She is not yet done with the south. So who knows if a character or two may pop up again along the way . :). Doubtful her next book but maybe the one after. Sometime subject matter doesn’t fully allow for full disclosure though.
Thank you so very much for sharing this story. Yours is such a great example of the mutual help that was given and the responsibility that was undertaken for ‘the help’ for the dedicated and loving work they provided for the family.
They were not family, but the responsibility did fall upon the families to provide fully for them for their work and service. This is something on both sides that is often not discussed or honored. Appreciate so much your story.
I was born in the late 40s and I grew up in New Orleans and Florida. We always had “help” and so did most of the families of our friends and family. We weren’t nasty or snobby to them and anyone who was ever in our employ was treated well and paid well. No areas of the house was off limits.
The lady to whom I was the closest and the one who worked for us the longest came when I was about four years old and was with us until I was twenty one. She was truly a part of the family. When I was nine and my father died, she cried with us at his funeral and many years later, when she died prematurely, my mom and I cried at her’s. She was a perfect fit for our family in every way.
I haven’t seen the movie yet, but I plan to do so.
Exactly, and IMHO our best counter is the truth.All we have to do is tell what is actually going on,how the pendulum has swung and reasonable people will do reasonable things hopefully.
You got that exactly right.
Maybe they are trying to destroy the uppity TEA party by “nudging” them with a sharp elbow? Maybe they want to encourage flash mobs so that someone white decides to restore sanity by “discouraging” a flash mob with gunfire?
Nudge nudge
EDITORIAL: Obama: Whites need not apply
Liberals don’t want our government to mirror our society
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/19/obama-whites-need-not-apply/
Several ways exist to humorously disperse a flash mob. If someone REALLY wanted to know how, they can PM me. :)
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I shudder to think about how Obama loving ..now totally northernized Kathryn Stockett ..the darling of the Atlantic crowd actually treats where I grew up.
My grandfather was a contemporary of her grandfather's and I duck hunted at the Caldwell place in Sidon Miss for over a decade as a teen with her dad Robert.
I can tell you having being surrounded by black help too as a boy that we did not treat our help that way at all and I doubt Robert Sr or Jr did either.
She makes a big deal about separate staff bathrooms and dishes...anyone here every been in a Manhattan mansion...I have...same thing...The Biltmore..same thing...Newport...same thing. Same thing about it's so awful to call them maids or help...geezuss how silly...I guess housekeeper is so much sweeter and all..like stewardess versus flight attendant..same job.
We have folks who come clean out house every two weeks...we have nothing for staff like that but were it a huge house it might come with it.
Kathryn Stockett moved to New York with serious issues with mom and dad who divorced and her brother who finds her a cultural traitor and wrote a book she thought would endear her to her new world and it worked.
I have read enough of the book to know it's just another “bad South” piece of tripe meant to make folks feel morally superior.
Not sure how the movie is but I can only imagine...I have heard black political groups feel it's not damning of whites enough and makes black men look bad.
Whatever..I'm over it...you the think the Old South was bad...come to Jackson proper now and enjoy...check out how all is now so much better since evil white folks have been driven from power there. It's a veritable paradise over on Lynch street. or Delta Drive
Sorry...not your fault...I just take this one personally...an honest movie about the transition of the South the past 50 years would be refreshing but will never happen...you are either gonna get this crap or Black Snake Moan or some other tripe...Steel Magnolias..though a chick flick was non offensive except for casting Olympia Dukakis
I read an interview with Robert Jr (lawyer and retired real estate guy who was very gutsy visionary sort) about his daughter Kathryn and her book...he wondered how could she write with such knowledge about something she based 10 years before her birth and that after she spent almost 20 years in Manhattan that she was a New Yorker now and “not one of us anymore”. When asked if he had her phone number, he said “no”. Kathryn now lives in Atlanta with her maiden name married with one kid to some computer guy from up north..ironic the name thing..estranged but keeps the name. Her family was never Klan...that woulda been so stupid...no way...they were many social rungs above that..her grandfather may have joined the Citizen's Council...not sure..many rich men did.
One of the maids is suing Kathryn for using her as an inspiration with no credit and her brother..a lawyer..is supposedly behind it...bad blood there...in that family. I don't know her..she was child when I was a mid teen and up..but her dad was nice enough and I participated in their wagon rides they had in the fall and everyone knew who they were because they had owned all the bottomland in downtown Jackson and the Interstate and fairgrounds and state bldgs and hotels came in and made them rich...folks knew her parents were estranged and her mom was beautiful but spirited and ..hmmm..hard to keep home at night...it's not easy to say really..anyhow...The Help comes from that..it's complicated but it's just comes across to me as another denunciation of a way of life I grew up with written for a purpose and feeds right into folks who believe these myths...myths designed to make them feel superior in their homogeneous enclaves outside the south and relieve whatever misplaced guilt those in the South harbor..obviously not me.
Where I grew up...folks who were nasty to their help were frowned upon...and I never once heard of sexual harassment of a black maid...lord they were usually rotund and excellent cooks...ridiculous but hardly sex objects to anyone this side of Tallulah Bankhead
This is a post I have meant to write over this book...not directed at you as a flame naps. I though about doing a thread on it to rant.
Rich folks everywhere with serious staff have separate bathrooms and often kitchens too ...it's not a race thing.
It's just a separation especially if they are live ins and works better really...gives them their private quarters.
We did not have that but my grandfather did...but no one would refuse them food or water on the fine china.
I don't have illusions either...especially now. I know this...however bad it was then...black culture was intact...black illegitimacy was only 20%...black crime and corruption was negligible except on Farish streets on Saturday nites..and I could have my car break down any where and all the city was safe.
Today it has all fallen apart.
It's difficult to judge really how much better is progress. We were never truly segregated and now we are not fully integrated...Jackson has resegregated with richer blacks joining whites on the perimeter or in pockets of the Northeast holdouts.
Every year exponentially more whites murdered or raped etc by blacks than the total of all blacks killed during everything from Reconstruction thru Jim Crow
so what did we really gain?
a clearer conscience..mine was fine already after New York
or a larger black middle class that votes for entitlements after decades of pundits assuring us that once opportunity and education gave them this they would adopt out values
hell they shared our values more when they were oppressed.
I never thought it would turn out like this...it's a very mixed bag and the future is grim.
Right now my kinfolks who stayed in Clinton are trying to get out because they see where it's headed...down...they don't know whether to go to Raymond or Madison...maybe down below Terry...
helluva way to live....it's like South Africa..staying ahead of the blight
SIXTY? Wow. That’s incredible. It might be the best novel I’ve read in a long time, and I read a lot.
I do believe we are in an outright propaganda war coming from Hollywood and the media. So many people simply do not get it.
Got to get proficient shooting with one hand while leaning on the walker with the other.
I don't know how anyone, except those she told about it, would have known she was connected in any way, had she not filed the complaint.
I always assumed the characters were based, somewhat, on maids that either the author, or someone she knows, had known.
Not ALL the white characters were racists, unless the movie was COMPLETELY different than the book, which, from what others have said, is not the case. Maybe you simply projected your own feelings onto the movie; you EXPECTED a film hating whitey, so that's what you saw.
Oh, that cannot be true. /s
It’s been out for 2 weeks, no violence. I think you’re reading into things.
Is that the standard? You have no claim if you're a nobody? Non-celebrities need not apply?
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