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Ron Paul delivers strongly anti-abortion speech
Politico ^ | 2011-08-13 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 08/17/2011 8:21:43 PM PDT by rabscuttle385

Meet Ron Paul, the social conservative.

The Texas congressman, best known for his small-government, anti-Federal Reserve economic views, tacked in a different direction with his Ames address and delivered an uncharacteristically sharp denunciation of the practice of abortion. Continue Reading

Paul began his remarks by acknowledging that his campaign is "identified with the cause of liberty." But, he continued: "There is something that precedes liberty and that is life."

"The prime reason that government exists in a free society is to protect liberty, but also to protect life. And I mean all life," Paul said.

The libertarian-leaning presidential candidate, who is an obstetrician by training, has long opposed abortion rights, but has not emphasized it in his presidential campaigns.

In his speech this afternoon, Paul described himself as "very strong right to life" and claimed that when he was in training in the 1950s, "It was assumed everybody was pro-life and abortions weren’t to be done."

By the 1960s, Paul said, that was changing. He recalled that physicians were "defying the law in doing abortions," and told a bracing story of seeing doctors deliver a baby via Caesarean section and then "put it in a bucket in the corner of the room and let it die and pretended nobody heard it."

"We cannot play God and make those decisions. All life is precious," Paul said. "You have to understand where that liberty and that life comes from. It does not come from the government. It comes from our creators."

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2012gopprimary; abortion; bachmannpaul2012; constitution; lping; moralabsolutes; prolife; realconservatives; ronpaul
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To: rabscuttle385

I am a serial killer of fish... some life needs to die..


21 posted on 08/17/2011 9:25:00 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: mnehring

Perhaps the guy thought HR1096 would make for more effective results than HR748 et al, inasmuch as the former reserves such legislation for individual states.


22 posted on 08/17/2011 9:25:26 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: rabscuttle385

Life, liberty, property. He’s always consistent. God bless him and may this country wake up.


23 posted on 08/17/2011 9:27:14 PM PDT by rosepetal2010 (The government is NOT your friend)
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To: rosepetal2010
He is a

Jew Hater /Israeli hater
Earmark King actually fought the end of earmarks for his pals
Iran lover who think they should be left alone to build the BOMB
Blames the USA for 9-11
You Paulites are fooling no one and need to move on. A complete fraud and KOOK !

24 posted on 08/17/2011 9:34:24 PM PDT by ncalburt (NO MORE WIMPS need to apply to fight the Soros Funded Puppet !)
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To: rabscuttle385

Rep. Ron Paul is a nutcase who represents a grave danger to our country. A perusal of the legislation he’s introduced will bear this out substantially. To whit:


1. H.R.147 : Prescription Drug Affordability Act

2. H.R.148 : To amend title II of the Social Security Act and the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to provide prospectively that wages earned, and self-employment income derived, by individuals who are not citizens or nationals of the United States shall not be credited for coverage under the old-age, survivors, and disability insurance program under such title, and to provide the President with authority to enter into agreements with other nations taking into account such limitation on crediting of wages and self-employment income.

3. H.R.149 : Social Security Beneficiary Tax Reduction Act

4. H.R.150 : Senior Citizens Tax Elimination Act

5. H.R.151 : Seniors’ Health Care Freedom Act of 2010

6. H.R.219 : Social Security Preservation Act of 2011

7. H.R.220 : Identity Theft Prevention Act of 2011

8. H.R.459 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act of 2011

9. H.R.953 : Make College Affordable Act of 2011

10. H.R.954 : Family Education Freedom Act of 2011

11. H.R.955 : Professional Educators Tax Relief Act of 2011

12. H.R.956 : Education Improvement Tax Cut Act

13. H.R.957 : Teacher Tax Cut Act of 2011

14. H.R.958 : We the People Act

15. H.R.1094 : Federal Reserve Board Abolition Ac

16. H.R.1095 : Freedom to Bank Act

17. H.R.1096 : Sanctity of Life Act of 2011

18. H.R.1097 : Complete and Permanent Property Tax Deduction Act of 2011

19. H.R.1098 : Free Competition in Currency Act of 2011

20. H.R.1099 : Taxpayers’ Freedom of Conscience Act of 2011

21. H.R.1101 : End the Mandate Act of 2011

22. H.R.1102 : Affordable Gas Price Act

23. H.R.1139 : Tax Free Tips Act of 2011

24. H.R.1146 : American Sovereignty Restoration Act of 2009

25. H.R.1201 : Thrift Savings Fund Improvement Act

26. H.R.1271 : Agriculture Education Freedom Act

27. H.R.1495 : Gold Reserve Transparency Act of 2011

28. H.R.1496 : Federal Reserve Transparency Act

29. H.R.1830 : To authorize the interstate traffic of unpasteurized milk and milk products that are packaged for direct human consumption.

30. H.R.1831 : Industrial Hemp Farming Act of 2011

31. H.R.2044 : Health Freedom Act

32. H.R.2045 : Freedom of Health Speech Act

33. H.R.2080 : Evacuees Tax Relief Act of 2011

34. H.R.2262 : Unemployment Assistance Act of 2011

35. H.R.2263 : Unemployed Tax Relief Act of 2011

36. H.R.2438 : American Traveller Dignity Act of 2011

37. H.R.2613 : Citizens Protection Act of 2011

38. H.R.2614 : The Entrepreneurship Tax Cut Act of 2011

39. H.R.2615 : Second Amendment Protection Act of 2011

40. H.R.2616 : Anti-Terrorism Act of 2011

41. H.R.2768 : To cancel public debt held by the Federal Reserve System and to lower the public debt limit by an equal amount.

42. H.R.2769 : Parental Consent Act of 2011

43. H.J.RES.50 : Proposing an amendment to the Constitution of the United States relative to abolishing personal income, estate, and gift taxes and prohibiting the United States Government from engaging in business in competition with its citizens.

44. H.CON.RES.31 : Expressing the sense of Congress that the President is required to obtain in advance specific statutory authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces in response to civil unrest in Libya.


I rest my case.


25 posted on 08/17/2011 9:42:59 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: mnehring; All
I'm not for Ron Paul but you have posted FALSE information.

Your link to NRLC doesn't work so I went myself to their site myself.

Ron Paul's rated at 75% "with us" 6% "unscored" and 16% "against us" (Votes tab)

You claimed he was rated 56%.

26 posted on 08/17/2011 9:43:47 PM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
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To: newzjunkey

HR1096 bears out plainly the substance of this individual’s approach, not to mention his words on the subject in general. Shame on us all for stooping so low we have to micro-legislate something as fundamental as the right to life. Thank God for candidates of *any* stripe who at least get this one right.


27 posted on 08/17/2011 9:49:19 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: mnehring; All
The Votes tab numbers don't add up to 100. I maybe misreading it after checking Bachmann which is listed at 19 "with us" and nothing "against us" or "not scored."

If the 75, 6 & 16 Ron Paul numbers are individual votes scored by NRLC, 75 of 97 (75+6+16) is 77%. It's still clear Ron Paul is not rated 56% by NRLC.

The 19 of 19 would rate Bachmann 100%.

28 posted on 08/17/2011 9:51:40 PM PDT by newzjunkey (12yo's consent law, AB499 (Atkins), passed the CA Asm 50-25, Sen vote next.)
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To: BereanBrain

The article you linked does not specify which bill the two congressmen were introducing. I’d like to see and read the bill, if you would please provide a link. Thank you.


29 posted on 08/17/2011 10:03:48 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: newzjunkey
Thank you for posting the correct numbers. I think there are people from different campaigns posting stuff on here. Not sure if the person you were replying to is. Probably not. But how could someone think they can get this past the ace team at FR.

Some people forget that Dan Rather was undone by experts on FR that knew every little detail about type fonts and print balls on the IBM Selectric typewriter. Such expertise in a citizen army (wearing pajamas no less) is not easy to fool.

Stay vigilant!

30 posted on 08/17/2011 10:28:21 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: rabscuttle385

The fact that Politico, which recently has drifted off into MSNBC-style attack “journalism” suddenly loves Ron Paul should tell you all you need to know of him.

Is Ron Paul really pro-life? He opposed Congressional legislation outlawing the transportation of minors by non-parents to bring them to states where they didn’t need parental or judicial consent to get abortions. That’s right folks: Ron Paul believes your STATE-FUNDED TEACHERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SMUGGLE YOUR KIDS OUT OF STATE TO GET ABORTION.

How’s that for small government?

How could a libertarian possibly favor state employees smuggling kids out-of-state to get abortions? Insanely, Ron Paul argues the Tenth Amendment prevents Congress from interfering.

WRONG, RON PAUL.. Hideously, profanely, stupidly (or simply deceitfully) wrong. This is actually the exact sort of thing that the interstate commerce clause was created for: the federal government regulating the trade of goods or services (in this case, abortion provision) because by their very nature, the states are incapable of enforcing their own just laws.

Ron Paul and Cynthia McKinney... they make different speeches, but their actions are all too often the same.


31 posted on 08/18/2011 5:36:06 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Ron Paul voted against a bill which would allow seniors to avoid health care plans which pay for abortions … He abstained from the Unborn Child Pain Awareness bill, helping it to fail … He voted against a bill to prevent state workers and others from bringing other people’s children across state lines to obtain abortions in avoidance of judicial or parental notification laws … and he voted three times to weaken the proposal … He voted against providing legal protections for unborn children killed in violence … He failed to vote against denying federal funds to Planned Parenthood … He voted against a ban on human cloning.

THESE ARE NOT THE VOTES OF SOMEONE WHO CONSIDERS ABORTION STATE-SANCTIONED MURDER.


32 posted on 08/18/2011 5:47:16 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Ron Paul voted against a bill which would allow seniors to avoid health care plans which pay for abortions … He abstained from the Unborn Child Pain Awareness bill, helping it to fail … He voted against a bill to prevent state workers and others from bringing other people’s children across state lines to obtain abortions in avoidance of judicial or parental notification laws … and he voted three times to weaken the proposal … He voted against providing legal protections for unborn children killed in violence … He failed to vote against denying federal funds to Planned Parenthood … He voted against a ban on human cloning.

THESE ARE NOT THE VOTES OF SOMEONE WHO CONSIDERS ABORTION STATE-SANCTIONED MURDER.


33 posted on 08/18/2011 5:47:26 AM PDT by dangus
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To: Fester Chugabrew

Don’t bother. On threads like these, the facts don’t mean a damn thing.


34 posted on 08/18/2011 5:58:06 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For those who fight for it, life has a flavor the sheltered will never know.)
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To: buccaneer81
That's right, you're the moron who suggested anyone that don't fall lock step behind your opinions or party favorite, is a liberal or nazi.

Do me a favor bucketmouth, follow someone else around with your slackjawed backwater comments.

You continue to make false accusations or try following me around here, you won't like whats coming.

35 posted on 08/18/2011 7:44:04 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
You continue to make false accusations or try following me around here, you won't like whats coming.

What a whiny little "man." What are you going to do? Fart in my general direction? Stick pins in a voodoo doll? Please, take your best shot.

Don't ever tell me where not to post unless your name ends in either "Robinson" or "Moderator." If I see something I want to comment on, I'll do it, you and your small appendage be damned.

Now go run to mommy and tell her that someone was mean to you. Maybe she'll put Teletubbies on for you.

36 posted on 08/18/2011 10:53:10 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: rabscuttle385
"[W]hile Roe v. Wade is invalid, a federal law banning abortion across all 50 states would be equally invalid."

-- Ron Paul, Federalizing Social Policy

"No State shall deprive any person of life without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

-- The Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution


37 posted on 08/18/2011 10:58:08 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (In the long run spritzing perfume on the rotting elephant really won't make that much difference.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Those are his personal beliefs.

But what has Ron Paul said HE as president would do to stop abortion?


38 posted on 08/18/2011 12:32:00 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Life as Nancy Pelosi knows & wants it, must end, Life As Nancy Knows it is to raise Debt 10% annualy)
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To: buccaneer81
Don't ever tell me where not to post unless your name ends in either "Robinson" or "Moderator."

I didn't suggest you can't post anywhere you please. Once again, you have difficulty understanding words.

You already directed your name calling at me, on this thread and elsewhere, in addition to pulling your race card etc.

If you continue making false baseless accusations, directed at me you'll be subjected to the same. Anyone can make false accusations and call names. You best direct it at someone else.

So we have a clear understanding, I won't take that BS from you, or anyone else.

39 posted on 08/18/2011 1:55:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

What a delusional little tool. You think you’re a badass or actually “important.” You want an enemy? Fine. I’m not your only one judging by the FReepmail I’ve gotten regarding you.
Bite me, Bruce.


40 posted on 08/18/2011 3:11:42 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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