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Scientists Expose Inside Job Behind Endangered Species Scam
Townhall.com ^ | August 15, 2011 | Marita Noon

Posted on 08/15/2011 6:15:28 AM PDT by Kaslin

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1 posted on 08/15/2011 6:15:31 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

>>>>>>the lizards like pipelines and service roads: “…pipeline cuts and sand roads serve as preferred habitat…

don’tcha love it when the animals like high tech as much as most humans?


2 posted on 08/15/2011 6:21:29 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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We can talk about cutting back agencies all we want, but until we change the ESA, Clean Water and Clean Air acts to fix these deficiencies, we’re spitting in the wind.


3 posted on 08/15/2011 6:22:02 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Obama/Biden '12: No hope and chump change.)
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To: Kaslin
I knew a man years ago who owned two lots in the keys - I think Key Largo - definitely not Key West... Anyhow, some liberal 'enviromentialist' wanted to buy the land and the man refused to sell. A few months later a endangered lizard or something like that was found on the property and development was denied. The man kept the land for 20 years - died of cancer without selling - his land had been made worthless to him. What he got out of owning the land was the right to pay taxes on it.

Liberals see beautiful land and rather than saving to buy it - or putting a purchase to a vote ... they steal the land with some bogus 'endangered' animal...

4 posted on 08/15/2011 6:24:28 AM PDT by GOPJ (England.... From Royal fairytale to banana republic in one summer. - - Allister Heath)
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To: Kaslin

Bookmark for later read.


5 posted on 08/15/2011 6:28:16 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Kaslin

Environmental groups are raping the American taxpayer as they insist on imposing their view of the new world order on the rest of us. The wolves have been breaking the back of western ranchers, let’s hope this finally breaks the ESA law. A mouse was restrored to endangered species protection in wheat fields in Wyoming, they are also protected in Colorado....WHY?
Ending food and energy production is a big part of the environmental movement and we need to figure out why, in the meantime take the ESA tool away.


6 posted on 08/15/2011 6:28:56 AM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: Kaslin

I just found out that the Iowa flooding was caused by the corps of engineers being told to hold the water behind the dams (when they should have released it earlier and more slowly) in order for some sturgeon to finish spawning. So, we destroyed millions of acres of crops & farmland & miles of highways so a fish could breed.

This is what you get when you view humans as just another animal on this planet.


7 posted on 08/15/2011 6:29:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: ken21
Well, I guess this is the second case where man's activity has, as a byproduct, improved the life of animals living near by.

Remember all of the anti-pipeline angst that accompanied the building of the Trans-Alaska Pipeline? How it was going to devastate the caribou herds? Do you also remember studies being done several years later that discovered that the environmental modifications caused by the pipeline actually were beneficial to the caribou herds? Notice that we haven't heard anything more about the pipeline's impact on the wildlife since then.

Isn't it a horrible event when reality and honest science intrudes on political agendas?

8 posted on 08/15/2011 6:30:21 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: midwyf

Food and energy production benefits humans.
Leftists, following their satanic ideology, hate humans.


9 posted on 08/15/2011 6:31:15 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin
I once lived in a town that wanted to expand its railroad station. They were blocked because some rare salamander was discovered living in the area where they wanted to expand. About a year later, a developer on the other side of town tried to build a shopping center. Unfortunately, that rare salamader was also found over in that area as well.

I live a couple town over now, and you know what? I've got that rare salamander in my backyard -- but I keep my mouth shut about it.

10 posted on 08/15/2011 6:31:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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idon’tcha love it when the animals like high tech as much as most humans? /i>

I live on 12 acres and I mow about half of it. I also mow "paths" through some of the rough area. I notice that the deer, who live here too, prefer to walk and run on my paths, rather than slam their way through the underbrush. I see other wildlife on the paths too.

I even see evidence that wild turkey take advantage of the divots I make with the Zero Turn mower. They enlarge them and use them to take dust baths. I haven't seen it, but I've found stray turkey feathers in the dents.

11 posted on 08/15/2011 6:32:28 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Down her, in the interior of the Swamp of Socialism, A.K.A. The everglades, Dr. Rich and I both sent data to the department of the Inferior regarding vehicle impact. The fact is that vehicle trails have a minor net positive impact. When a vehicle crushes vegetation, the emergent vegetation which the plant produces has from four to seven times the nutrient content.

Herbivores will travel for considerable distances to feed on such emergent vegetation. Having informed the Armed & Rangerous about the minor net positive impact of vehicles, they promptly outlawed most vehicles.


12 posted on 08/15/2011 6:33:59 AM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles.)
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Once the endangered lizard was found he should have sold it to them and made sure THEY were stuck with useless land


13 posted on 08/15/2011 6:37:58 AM PDT by Mr. K (CAPSLOCK! -Unleash the fury! [Palin/Bachman 2012- unbeatable ticket])
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To: Kaslin
As they used to say, "We have been practiced upon".

Environment, politics, sex, marriage, birth control, abortion, art, movies, novels, education, ... we have been practiced upon.

Should we not have a clue by now? Anything said by anyone about how we should change to make things better is most likely wrong. And the one saying it is either an useful idiot or is practicing upon us.

14 posted on 08/15/2011 6:38:55 AM PDT by hfr (Liberalism is a moral disorder that leads to mental disorder)
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To: Free Vulcan
One a similar note EPA does studies and issues rules and regulations without doing economic impact studies.

That is their stated policy and procedure.

15 posted on 08/15/2011 6:42:14 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: midwyf
Ending food and energy production is a big part of the environmental movement and we need to figure out why, in the meantime take the ESA tool away.

My thoughts exactly.

In the case of the sagebrush lizard. The energy industry has helped Texas maintain a fair economy and lower unemployment rates than many other states.

Obama can't have that.

I suspect the EPA will really push hard now that Perry has thrown his hat in the Presidential ring.

16 posted on 08/15/2011 6:42:28 AM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Kaslin

Environmentalism is the religion of the left. It needs to be declared as such and the “separation clause” enforced prohibiting them from any governmental involvement.


17 posted on 08/15/2011 6:43:52 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot
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To: midwyf
Ending food and energy production is a big part of the environmental movement and we need to figure out why

You don't know why?? Simple. We'll never achieve the desired third world status with full bellies and full gas tanks.

Always remember, at least 95% of what goes on in Wash DC is predicated on turning the USA into a third world country:

Just recently:
Raising the debt limit with NO (for all practical purposes) spending cuts.
The S&P downgrade.

Just two more steps along the way to third world utopia.

18 posted on 08/15/2011 6:44:34 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: rockinqsranch

do


19 posted on 08/15/2011 6:44:55 AM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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I agree. However, we have far too many fat-cats in government for them all to get to be a Castro or Mugabe. Even if I’m burning my fence palings to boil kudzu soup, I’ll enjoy watching my “betters” eat each other.


20 posted on 08/15/2011 6:49:56 AM PDT by Tax-chick (The Commie Plot Theory of Everything. Give it a try - you'll be surprised how often it makes sense.)
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