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Bachman wins Iowa Straw Poll. Paul second. Pawlenty third. Romney fourth, er, seventh.

Posted on 08/13/2011 4:03:48 PM PDT by DRey

Bachman bests Paul. Pawlenty third. Romney fourth. Works for me!


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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Straw Poll — anything like straw man? Thanks DRey.


261 posted on 08/13/2011 6:46:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Yes, as a matter of fact, it is that time again -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Rockingham

“This may put Bachman into the first tier with Romney and Perry”

By acknowledging the concept of “first tier”, are you not playing their game? And what defines “may”? Surely whether the TV says so


262 posted on 08/13/2011 6:49:21 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: AGreatPer

I think of the Ames Straw poll in the same way that I think of Opening Day of the baseball season.

Before the first pitch, everybody is in first place, and every fan has hopes for a successful season.

At the end of the day, half the fans are disappointed, and it is downhill from there.


263 posted on 08/13/2011 6:54:08 PM PDT by Palmetto Patriot (How much better off would we be if these bastards would just leave us alone?)
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To: South40

Perry/Cain or Perry/Bachmann. Sorry Sarah but stay the motivator for the TEA Party.


264 posted on 08/13/2011 6:54:37 PM PDT by tflabo ( to have been selected)
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To: Steel Wolf
Yeah... He was born in Miami, Florida,

To parents who were Cuban exiles. Therefore:

The Government of Cuba does not recognize the U.S. nationality of U.S. citizens who are Cuban-born or are the children of Cuban parents. These individuals will be treated solely as Cuban citizens and may be subject to a range of restrictions and obligations, including military service. Source

Hence, by the standards of US law, Rubio is not a Natural Born citizen, whether we like it or not. You deliberately chose not to address the question at hand in your reply. IMO, that is disingenuous at best. Throwing insults on top as a cover is even worse. That's not very smart in dealing with me.

Rubio is a very attractive leader: handsome, smart, serious, and articulate, but he is ineligible to be President. I'm sticking with the law even if nobody else seems to care. Don't like it? Then amend the Constitution. Ends don't justify means, which means we are not like Democrats. Are we?

265 posted on 08/13/2011 6:59:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie
I apologize for the snark. You had a reasonable question. Let me continue more reasonably.

Rubio is a very attractive leader: handsome, smart, serious, and articulate, but he is ineligible to be President. I'm sticking with the law even if nobody else seems to care. Don't like it? Then amend the Constitution. Ends don't justify means, which means we are not like Democrats. Are we?

There is no need. The Supreme Court precedent set by swearing in Barack Obama indicates that anyone born in the United States would be considered a naturally born citizen. If Rubio ran as Vice President or President, the Supreme Court would swear him in exactly as they swore in Barack Obama. What this means is that you and the Supreme Court differ on the definition of the phrase "natural born citizen.", not that the Supreme Court has broken the law.

The fact that you don't agree with the non-Vitter definition the Supreme Court uses won't stop Rubio any more than it stopped Obama. The law was unclear before, but it is settled by precedent now. At this point, we'd have to pass a law to stop Rubio, not to help him.

266 posted on 08/13/2011 7:08:14 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: Carry_Okie

What does the Cuban governments recognition of someone’s citizenship have to do with it?

If he was born in the US, he’s a US citizen...


267 posted on 08/13/2011 7:13:51 PM PDT by rayvd
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To: Friendofgeorge

She’s raising lots of money. She held her own in the debate. She did well in the straw poll. She is getting lots of name recognition.


268 posted on 08/13/2011 7:34:19 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: rayvd
If he was born in the US, he’s a US citizen...

Maybe according to customary US administration and a bogus SCOTUS ruling, but not according to the Constitution. Moreover, there is a difference between a naturalized citizen and a natural born citizen, which is why Hamilton was ineligible (which was the point of the language).

269 posted on 08/13/2011 7:43:30 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: I see my hands

I couldn’t agree with you more.

Bachmann wins by getting only 152 votes more than a crazy loon....... now that would be funny if our times weren’t so serious.


270 posted on 08/13/2011 7:50:05 PM PDT by Gator113 (Palin 2012, period.....)
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To: I see my hands
Bachman has good values/ideas. So do I, so do you. Big whoop. We need someone who can fight and win or America dies. Bachman needs to withdraw today and support a Sarah Palin candidacy.

At last. A post I agree with 100%

271 posted on 08/13/2011 7:53:06 PM PDT by CatDancer (I want to call Sarah Palin "Madame President". And I'm old. So hurry up!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

***Gingrich 385***

I forgot about him. Maybe he should just write a book to pay back that Tiffanys money, and call it a day.


272 posted on 08/13/2011 8:00:53 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Those who love liberty love Sarah)
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To: proudpapa
This is true but it eliminates Romney from being the spotlight kingpin.And LOL why do I have a feeling that if Palin won this many would be saying it counts big time?
273 posted on 08/13/2011 8:05:09 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid! (It is possible to both promote Palin and support Bachmann at the same time, ya know.)
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To: DRey
I was gone all day this is great news!!!

I hope that Pawlenty finally goes away I can't stand that liberal POS!

274 posted on 08/13/2011 8:12:55 PM PDT by Dengar01 ("Liberalism is a Mental Disorder" - Dr. Michael Savage)
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To: Signalman

That’s because it isn’t true and MittWit fake conservatives like you going around repeating it and insulting actual conservatives won’t ever make it true.


275 posted on 08/13/2011 8:17:55 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. -- G.K. Chesterton)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I went to the Washington Caucus they were too passionate!!! Like foaming at the mouth types!


276 posted on 08/13/2011 8:19:51 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Patrick1

I understand where you are coming from with that argument, but today is MUCH different and face it, legislative experience is nothing in getting elected now.

As a prime example I give you the pResident now.
He did NOTHING at all and got elected.

He ran against Bush .. no that is not a typo. He never ran against Mccain .. he was always comparing himself to Bush.

Bachmann is doing the same thing. She is running herself against the worst leader our country has ever seen. And she is making a very stark contrast to him. She is well spoken, has been an established leader of the TEA party, add the female factor (which was BIG for HRC) and I think she can do it with ease.


277 posted on 08/13/2011 8:20:34 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Munz

Nothing about this is going to be easy. I wish I could agree about Bachmann but I just don’t see it. There are other more experienced conservatives running or going to run who would give Obama a tough go.

Agreed that Obama was an empty suit but I have higher standards for our movement. Bachmann should run against Al Frankin instead and do the country a real favor.


278 posted on 08/13/2011 8:26:18 PM PDT by Patrick1 ("The problem with Internet quotations is that many are not genuine." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: okie01

He is a nut job. Once he gets off the topic of the economy it is all over for him. he is out of touch with everyday americans.

Although he may make some really good decisions in an economic venue and actually be of service to the country in ‘12 as a cabinet member .. but only limiting his input to economic matters. I could even live with him in that position .. but he is like Rain man ...


279 posted on 08/13/2011 8:27:38 PM PDT by Munz (All tyranny needs to gain a foothold is for people of good conscience to remain silent.)
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To: Antoninus
I won’t support Romney under any circumstances whatsoever.

thanks for the input Barack, I didn't know that you participated on Free Republic

280 posted on 08/13/2011 8:28:13 PM PDT by terycarl
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