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Ron Paul or certified RINOs, whom would you prefer? (vanity)

Posted on 08/13/2011 1:26:27 PM PDT by JimWayne

After yesterday's spurt in talk radio about Ron Paul, I've been thinking about his positions. I oppose Ron Paul on Foreign Policy (especially his position ignoring the threat of Islam taking over our policy), but have to seriously wonder about supporting some of the other candidates who have not faced opposition.

Ron Paul gets a lot of flak, but why do the others get away with cheating us for doing far worse than what Ron Paul promises to do to Israel? Many candidates like Rick Santorum, George Allen and Joe Barton have hijacked the label of conservative, but are less conservative than even Ron Paul. They support raising debt to infinite levels, deficit funding, support for Islamic regimes like Pakistan, nationalized healthcare (they did not oppose Romneycare), have wishy-washy positions on abortion, and say one thing during the elections while ganging up with the liberals right after the elections.

The second thought in my mind is about Israel. Why are we so obsessed about Israel when the Jewish people seem to vote for the RATs? I think Islam is more dangerous and if we pull the aid from both Palestine and Israel, Israel will win, but this is a situation I don't really feel strongly about. There are much bigger problems at home and my wealth is depleting not merely due to Obama and other Dims, but the RINOs and neocons who have ganged up with the liberals over the years.

These RINOs do not support us but expect our support unconditionally. They even opposed the TEA Party candidates but suddenly claim that they themselves are part of the TEA Party.

So my question to you is why should we give a free pass to the RINOs? Shouldn't we hold them to the same standards we hold Ron Paul to? I can already hear that Ron Paul is a kook, but that is not the question. The question is whether others like Santorum and George Allen aren't worse than being a kook and why should we support them? The other question is why Israel is so important that my savings should be used for them. Shouldn't they take care of themselves?


TOPICS: Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: boobyhatch; kooks; liberaltarian; nuts; paul2012; rino; ronpaul; vanity
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To: JimWayne

161 posted on 08/13/2011 4:07:09 PM PDT by Antoninus (Nothing that offends God can possibly be a legitimate right.)
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To: Antoninus

lol...


162 posted on 08/13/2011 4:10:28 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Antoninus

Rick Santorum is a homosexual supporter: Google for the words he uttered during the debate, “under a mullahcracy that tramples the rights of women, tramples the rights of gays.” You will find a number of sites that mention this remark from Santorum. Clearly, this remark proves that Rick Santorum is a supporter of homosexuality. Disgusting piece of trash. So this is what he meant when he said we have to embrace diversity? You should know since you belong in the same category as Rick Santorum.


163 posted on 08/13/2011 4:12:26 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: hosepipe

Are you out of your mind?


164 posted on 08/13/2011 4:18:25 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

[ Are you out of your mind? ]

Only when I argue with idiots..


165 posted on 08/13/2011 4:28:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

Yet, here I am arguing with a racist. What are they putting in the water these days when it comes to FReepers from ‘98?


166 posted on 08/13/2011 4:31:20 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81
Straight to the Stormfront rally.

Your comment is straight from the Al Sharpton playbook. Whoever gets the GOP nomination, the Dems will be spewing the same line: "Straight to the Stormfront rally." You just give this type of crap legitmacy. Pathetic!

167 posted on 08/13/2011 4:47:27 PM PDT by Diago (What is the Silver Lake Conspiracy?)
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To: Diago

He took cash from Stormfront. Are you blind?


168 posted on 08/13/2011 4:49:08 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Diago
Whoever gets the GOP nomination, the Dems will be spewing the same line: "Straight to the Stormfront rally."

Yeah, I'm sure they would say that about Herman Cain. /sarc

169 posted on 08/13/2011 4:54:52 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Someone who supports candidates who go overseas to military bases and solicit desertion on the part of our troops, advocate physical attacks on President Bush, passes around phony flyers to portray conservative groups as racist, disrupts the Republican National Convention, etc. is not even open to consideration as a candidate for my vote, and shouldn’t be for anyone.

AND, who pays people to vote for him in "straw polls."

Are people really dumb enough to have not figured out that RuPaul is a leftist dream-come-true and is probably financed in part by Big Daddy Soros???

170 posted on 08/13/2011 4:59:37 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: JimWayne

Who the hell made you the judge of who is a conservative and who is not?


171 posted on 08/13/2011 5:00:09 PM PDT by Melchior
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To: JimWayne

Ron Paul is a RINO in the strictest definition of the word. He really is a big L Libertarian.

I’m a small l libertarian/conservative with enough sense to know that Libertarianism is a utopian dream. It cannot exist in conjunction with even a limited welfare state.


172 posted on 08/13/2011 5:01:52 PM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: patriot08

I don’t like this guy, but he never said what you said re 9-11:

Reason: What did you mean when you told the Scholars that “the [9/11] investigation is an investigation in which there were government cover-ups”?

Paul: I do think there were cover-ups, and I think it was mainly to cover up who was blamed, who’s inept. See, they had the information. The FBI had an agent who was very much aware of the terrorists getting flight lessons but obviously not training to be pilots. He reported it 70 times or whatever and it was totally ignored. We were spending $40 billion a year on intelligence. It wasn’t a lack of money or a lack of intelligence, it was a lack of the ability to put the intelligence together. Even the administration had been forewarned that something was coming, the CIA had been forewarned. So it was a cover up of who to blame. I see it more that way.

Reason: The position of the Student Scholars is that 9/11 was executed by the U.S. government. Do you agree or disagree with that?

Paul: I’d say there’s no evidence of that.

Reason: So what did you mean when you told Student Scholars you’d be open to a new 9/11 investigation?

Paul: Well, I think the more we know about what we went on is good. But I don’t think there’s any evidence of [an inside job] and I don’t believe that. The blame goes to bad policy. And a lot of times bad policy is well-motivated. The people who believe in a one world government are well motivated, but they disagree with me.


173 posted on 08/13/2011 5:04:09 PM PDT by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Grunthor

This JimWayne guy is something, huh? He puts forward a position, pro-Ron Paul/anti-Israel, then claims he said no such thing.

JW is a classic, lying liebertarian Paultard.


174 posted on 08/13/2011 5:06:37 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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To: JLS
Ron Paul = Certified RINO...

Ron Paul = Certified Nutcase

Ron Paul is the 2011 version of Howard Dean! Tweak him and watch him start screaming like a maniac.

175 posted on 08/13/2011 5:09:49 PM PDT by The Citizen Soldier (I will always remember exactly where I was when Obama made his NCAA picks.)
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To: GR_Jr.

“If this field is the best America has to offer, then we are done for. Democrats, RINO’s and Compassionate Conservatives are not an option. I might as well put a gun to my head now and spare myself of the agony that is about to come if 0bama gets reelected or one of these morons becomes President.”

There are plenty of drama queens like you on the left that didn’t go to Canada after Bush’s reelection. I would be very surprised if we weren’t hearing from you come December next year, if either half of your ‘scary’ scenario came true. Go back to hamming with the rest of your RNC intern pals.


176 posted on 08/13/2011 5:12:05 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (When Republicans don't vote conservative, conservatives don't vote Republican.)
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To: buccaneer81

[ Yet, here I am arguing with a racist. What are they putting in the water these days when it comes to FReepers from ‘98? ]

You don’t love your race?.. Theres only ONE RACE.. everyone is colored..
You can’t love them all!!.. unless you are a moron...


177 posted on 08/13/2011 5:13:21 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: La Enchiladita

I have never supported Ron Paul. Show me one post where I support him. I started off objecting to his foreign policy and then pointed out others like him. Regarding your post putting loyalty to Israel above loyalty to America, it is obnoxious. I care squat about Israel, but raised the issue because I found that Jewish people vote Democrats. Someone needs to explain why we should accept support for those who vote for Democrats. Why do you evade this point? Vote against Dims and I won’t raise this point.


178 posted on 08/13/2011 5:16:21 PM PDT by JimWayne
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To: hosepipe

How lunkheads like you survive on FR is one of life’s mysteries.


179 posted on 08/13/2011 5:19:58 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: JimWayne
Regarding your post putting loyalty to Israel above loyalty to America, it is obnoxious.

Show me this post you refer to.

P.S. I think you're nuts.... like your hero.

180 posted on 08/13/2011 5:21:38 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (I said it, I meant it and I represent it.)
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