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S&P fallout: Fannie and Freddie downgraded
CNN Money ^ | 8-8-11 | Charles Riley

Posted on 08/08/2011 7:50:32 AM PDT by STARWISE

Credit rating agency Standard and Poor's on Monday downgraded the debt of mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The downgrades to AA+ are part of the continued fallout from the agency's decision to drop U.S. sovereign debt to AA+, an unprecedented move that rattled investors and sparked concern over the long-term impact of the action

It was widely expected that S&P's downgrade of U.S. debt would roll downhill to other entities that are closely linked to the federal government.

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Why weren't they downgraded years ago?
1 posted on 08/08/2011 7:50:35 AM PDT by STARWISE
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To: onyx; penelopesire; maggief; hoosiermama; SE Mom; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; seekthetruth; ...

.. Ping!


2 posted on 08/08/2011 7:51:43 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

There IS a silver lining to this mess!


3 posted on 08/08/2011 7:52:19 AM PDT by madison10
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To: STARWISE

Why were they ever formed? Oh yeah, I forgot. More bogus promises from politicians that do nothing but create bureaucracies and enrich their cronies. Silly me.


4 posted on 08/08/2011 7:53:56 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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To: STARWISE

“Why weren’t they downgraded years ago?”

Because US Gov has been providing a guarantee. This is no surprise—the guaranteed party or security is usually rated the same as the guarantor.


5 posted on 08/08/2011 7:54:13 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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Why weren't they downgraded years ago?

One word answer: "Barney".

6 posted on 08/08/2011 7:55:02 AM PDT by corlorde (NH)
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To: STARWISE; rush; kristinn; holdonnow; MNJohnnie; MarkLevinFan; radioproducer; surferboy; sneakers; ..

Thanks STAR, I was a sec from posting.


7 posted on 08/08/2011 7:55:23 AM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray. For all the latest, check out: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/)
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To: STARWISE

Joe Biden: Blame Tea Party terrorists!
McCain: Blame the hobbits!
Bwarney Fwank: Blame military spending!
Barky: Tax the rich!

Looks like Wall Steet is leveling the playing field on the rich...

Barky and Geithner: Growing the middle class...one former millionaire at a time!


8 posted on 08/08/2011 7:55:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: STARWISE

This will really help the mortgage business. I’d think it’s be a good bet since the government is paying off the investors. Then again, maybe the government is not planning on staying in business.


9 posted on 08/08/2011 7:56:38 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Pining_4_TX
and hire minorities. Fannie: 45% black, Freddie 50% black
10 posted on 08/08/2011 7:56:51 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: STARWISE

They should have been dismantled several years ago!!!


11 posted on 08/08/2011 8:00:03 AM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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To: silverleaf
Barky and Geithner: Growing the middle class...one former millionaire at a time!

Ouch! That's gonna leave a dent!

12 posted on 08/08/2011 8:00:07 AM PDT by Calusa (The pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles. Quoth Bob Dylan.)
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To: STARWISE
Standard and Poor's on Monday downgraded the debt of mortgage finance giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac

Tea Parties Fault.

13 posted on 08/08/2011 8:02:05 AM PDT by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the Wes)
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Why weren’t they downgraded years ago?

______________________________________

Good question. I have another even more important question.

Why are we not investigating how Franklin Raines, Gorelick, and company cooked the books to get over 100 million dollars in bonuses making the entire situation worse. The statute of limitations is almost up and the mortgage debacle costs taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. Compare it to the aggressive investigation of Enron and Madoff.

Enquiring minds want to know. Where is Issa on this?


14 posted on 08/08/2011 8:05:14 AM PDT by volunbeer (Keep the dope, we'll make the change in 2012!)
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To: rokkitapps

Ah, yes, I forgot about that. When government is cut (and it will be, one way or the other), that is where the howls will be heard. I wonder what percentage of the black middle class is employed by government?


15 posted on 08/08/2011 8:05:26 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
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- A CERTAIN SMILE -


16 posted on 08/08/2011 8:06:26 AM PDT by devolve (. . . . . . . . . . . . Fat & Furious - Burger & Fries Queen*s 1700+ calorie lunches . . . . .)
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To: volunbeer

Why are we not investigating how Franklin Raines, Gorelick,

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They and Jim Johnson needed to be in orange jumpsuits for life.


17 posted on 08/08/2011 8:10:03 AM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Stat-boy

Uh, actually, it wasn’t until recently that they were backstopped by Uncle Sugar.

The bonds of Fannie/Freddie were not guaranteed until the moment when the PRC looked at the potential losses in the US RMBS market and started selling off their $300B position in July of 2008.

Then Paulson and the Bush administration slapped a guarantee on the bonds, followed by taking Fannie/Freddie into the government in September, 2008.

The one thing that Greenspan got right in his career at the Fed was telling Congress (repeatedly) about the market mis-pricing Fannie/Freddie debt, pricing it as tho it were guaranteed when it wasn’t. At that point, the GSE paper should never have been AAA - it should have been nothing higher than AA.


18 posted on 08/08/2011 8:10:42 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: volunbeer

Democrats have a blanket immunities in all matters.


19 posted on 08/08/2011 8:22:13 AM PDT by monocle
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To: STARWISE

Democrats seek to pin credit downgrade on tea party
Partisan gridlock is real culprit, S&P says

Barf alert.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/7/democrats-seek-to-pin-credit-downgrade-on-tea-part/


20 posted on 08/08/2011 8:23:07 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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