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GOP presser LIVE on FOX
FOX News | Aug 1, 2011 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/01/2011 1:11:13 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

The GOP "leadership" is united in lying to the public while they stab us in the back.

I must correct their lies. There is not a nickle in spending cuts in this bill.

It's absolutely idiotic to pile on more debt and continue spending when you're already so deeply in debt that you can never get out.

No deal would be better than this MARXIST POS!!

It's the spending, stupid!!

Tea Party Freshmen: HOLD THE LINE!!

Rebellion is brewing!!

Reinforcements coming in 2012!!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: debt; debtceiling; debtlimit; spending; teaparty; trillions
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To: Jim Robinson

BUMP.


121 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:23 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: abcc2011

I have again asked my congressman (Tom McClintock, R-CA) to stand firm with a “no” vote as he has done consistently to this point.


122 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:27 PM PDT by glennaro
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To: Prokopton

Look carefully. The GOP is plodding ahead slowly and deliberately towards their Marxist dream. The Dems are running wildly, zig-zagging like drunken kayakers, and bouncing off the walls...but their current rate of forward progress does match that of the GOP this week.


123 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:40 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (The solution to fix Congress: Nuke em from orbit. It's the only way to be sure!)
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To: Deo volente

We The Stupid
Ann Barnhardt

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2011/08/we_the_stupid.html

I stand here in abject stupefaction. The so-called “right” or “Tea Party” in this republic is being so thoroughly rolled and defeated that I am struggling to come up with an adequate violent submission metaphor that does not involve prison rape . . . and they honesty think that they’re “winning.” Really? You call this winning?

- Obama gets over $2 Trillion to spend before the 2012 election
- There are no real spending cuts
- There is a massive tax increase effective January 1, 2013

Obama is going to be handed something in excess of $2 Trillion — and he has made it perfectly clear that he will spend every penny of it before the November 2012 election. That’s why he kept saying, “ . . . so we don’t have to do this again”, meaning raise the debt ceiling again. The debt ceiling would only need to be raised if all of the money had been spent. Therefore, he has stated very clearly that he will spend every penny of any debt ceiling increase. He is going to burn through $2 Trillion-plus in the next sixteen months. This was the Obama regime’s plan from day one. Geithner appeared before Congress in early May and told them this in no uncertain terms. This outcome has been a known quantity all along.

There are no spending cuts in this plan. It is all accounting fraud. Saying that you are not going to spend money in Afghanistan ten years from now is not spending cuts. Even if you accept the $1 Trillion in cuts over ten years propaganda, that is only $100 Billion per year, which is essentially meaningless relative to the size of the problem. Furthermore, even a miniscule uptick in interest rates, which given the massive debasement of our currency is now a mathematical certainty, will completely consume that $100 Billion per year. It’s all a joke.

Back to the $2 Trillion that Obama is being handed. I honestly think that most people in this country have no understanding of simple counting numbers. Do you not understand how much a trillion is? Where do you think this money is going to come from — who has two trillion dollars to loan us? China? Nope. Not even close. China’s entire GDP is only $6 Trillion. Do you honestly think that China is going to loan us one third of their total annual economic production? China was a huge creditor to us back when $100 Billion was considered a staggeringly large amount of money - which was four years ago. Now $100 Billion is literally a rounding error. Do you realize that there are only a handful of nations of this planet that even have a GDP in excess of $2 Trillion? If these countries loaned us every penny of their GDP, it wouldn’t even be $2 Trillion:

Canada ($1.57 T)
India ($1.54 T)
Russia ($1.46 T)

Are you starting to understand the scope of what we are talking about now? Obama is going to embezzle considerably more than the entire economic output of Canada, India or Russia to his cronies before the 2012 election — and that is just counting this round of spending. This doesn’t include the other $5 Trillion he has already burned through since 2009.

China is not going to lend us this money because they simply don’t have anything close to that much money to lend. This $2 Trillion is going to come from the Federal Reserve. Where is the Federal Reserve going to get $2 Trillion? They are going to print it out of thin air. We are in the midst of the largest currency debasement ever seen in human history. There is only one result that can come of currency debasement: hyperinflation and total economic and societal collapse.

Have you also forgotten the so-called “Bush tax cuts”? Yeah. Those rates are going to expire on January 1, 2013. Obama will presumably still be occupying the Oval Office at that time assuming that he is not forcibly removed or that the Republic is still intact at that time. Taxes will increase significantly at that point, and the Congressional Budget Office has scored everything put before them given the fact of the massive tax increases on 1/1/2013. Do you understand that? When these Republicans and even these so-called “Tea Party Freshmen” tell you that there are no tax hikes in their “plan,” they are consciously, willfully, knowingly lying to you through their teeth.

Finally, I do not understand how it can possibly be that conservative writers are still addressing Obama as if he is actually trying to help the economy, but his well-intentioned policies are failing.

Obama is the enemy. Obama is a Marxist-Communist usurper and puppet front for a cabal of Marxist-Communists who are actively trying to destroy the United States of America. Everything they have done, are doing, and will do has the single goal of collapsing and destroying the U.S. economy, military, constitutional government and culture. What part of “Marxist Revolution” do you not understand?

The Obama regime is not a failure. The Obama regime is not incompetent. The Obama regime has achieved more in two and a half years than anyone could have possibly foreseen. It has debased the currency by 50% of the GDP and guaranteed that our economy will collapse. It has looted the Treasury for more than the size of a top-ten economy and embezzled that wealth into the hands of their fellow Marxists in preparation for the final collapse of the United States. It has ground the economy of the United States to a screeching halt. It has destabilized the entire Muslim world and ensured that there will be a nuclear war centered around Israel within the decade.

The Obama regime has no interest whatsoever in “stimulus” or “getting folks back to work.” How can you not understand this? How can we possibly win this war if we refuse to come to terms with the fact that we are in fact fighting a war.

God save the United States of America, because the people are far too stupid to do it themselves.


124 posted on 08/01/2011 2:15:57 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: RetSignman

“For any of you have no signal from Comcast Cable as we have, here is where you can watch our country go down the drain.”

I feel like Cato watching the fall of the Republic.


125 posted on 08/01/2011 2:16:11 PM PDT by MichaelNewton
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To: SouthTexas
Government will not decrease without a serious push putsch.
126 posted on 08/01/2011 2:18:47 PM PDT by ecomcon
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To: Smokeyblue

“In addition, they intend to kill the Tea Party with this bill.”

That may be their intent, but I believe that last week’s crap will serve to energize the Tea Party movement. I’ll be interested to see the turnout at our local meeting on Thursday.


127 posted on 08/01/2011 2:19:46 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Jim Robinson

They have stuck together despite enormous pressure. If there is a vote for a BBA included in this and if there is no tax increase I am not that upset nor would I be if it did not pass.

There appears to be a lot of Leftist opposition to it as well so we are in unusual territory. No one seems to like it.

Once I learned that by law the interest on the debt has to be paid first I stopped believing there could be a default and will not urge voting for this.

Maybe these guys are tired of being screamed at.


128 posted on 08/01/2011 2:22:34 PM PDT by arrogantsob (Why do They hate her so much?)
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To: Deo volente

Ryan is from my state and we are proud to have him. His heart is in the right place and he has integrity. The problem is, he believes he can work "within the system" instead of seeing the need to "change the system". He views those around him as having an equal measure of his own integrity. And so, he falls for the "compromise" line and is willing to kick the can down the road a bit to give it a shot. He's a fine leader when the chips are up, but way "too nice" while the chips are down. We need leaders, like Minnesota's Bachmann, who will dig in and hold the line while dealing with socialists and communists. Being a cheesehead, I hate to give one to Minnesota, but I sure am proud of Bachmann. I think Ryan is a fine representative, but don't use his support for this atrocity as a measure of its worth. We are still working to get him to see the light.


129 posted on 08/01/2011 2:25:22 PM PDT by so_real ( "The Congress of the United States recommends and approves the Holy Bible for use in all schools.")
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To: Maelstorm

“‘Super Congress’ can not be stopped without a 2/3rds vote.”

This is crazy. Why would anyone vote for this?

So one Republican can get a kickback to join the Democrats and it takes two thirds to stop it. ABSOLUTELY NUTS!


130 posted on 08/01/2011 2:25:32 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Maelstorm

“‘Super Congress’ can not be stopped without a 2/3rds vote.”

This is crazy. Why would anyone vote for this?

So one Republican can get a kickback to join the Democrats and it takes two thirds to stop it. ABSOLUTELY NUTS!


131 posted on 08/01/2011 2:25:43 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: Beaten Valve
Here is your list of phone numbers.

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm

I just called mine and I was furious, asked the young lady what he thought of this bill. She said he hadn't decided, he was still reading it. I told her I would actively work to defeat anyone who voted for it and that I was fed up with the lies and the "gangs", etc.

132 posted on 08/01/2011 2:27:11 PM PDT by YellowRoseofTx
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To: arrogantsob

“The U.S. Department of Homeland Security has notified. in writing. the banks to inspect their safety deposit boxes and freeze any gold, silver, guns or other valuables they find in them!”

I don’t think the banks can actually inspect the safety deposit boxes (they don’t have a master key).

However, what was done in 1933 was that government agents or bank employees inspected every safety deposit box whenever these were opened by their owners, and then were authorized to confiscate all gold and gold coins.

Something of the same is very possible in the future.


133 posted on 08/01/2011 2:27:43 PM PDT by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Jim Robinson

Joe Biden just called me a terrorist — I emailed him to Go To Hell. Will they come to get me? Am lightly armed for personal defense.


134 posted on 08/01/2011 2:28:51 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: RetSignman

Thanks for the link! I have to shut it off for now. There’s a Democrat hag going on and on blowing hot air right now. The vote is expected to take place at about 7pm eastern. I’ll have to check back. I can’t stomach listening to the hag.

Thanks again for the link.


135 posted on 08/01/2011 2:30:02 PM PDT by abcc2011 (Christian and conservative.)
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To: Jim Robinson

BTTT


136 posted on 08/01/2011 2:30:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: abcc2011

redcounty RedCounty.com
...we know that, @EricCantor, the question is: COULD the “Super Congress” hike taxes? Is it empowered to? You DID NOT answer that
1 hour ago
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RedCounty.com
redcounty RedCounty.com
WAIT a min: @EricCantor just gave a non-answer to H Reid’s claim that tax hikes could come from debt deal. Said “taxes not part of deal”
1 hour ago
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RedCounty.com
redcounty RedCounty.com
ALERT: Harry Reid just said that Eric Cantor told House GOP caucus that taxes could be part of “Super Congress” solution! RAGE!


137 posted on 08/01/2011 2:34:04 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

The Black Caucus snubs Obama, complicates the deal

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/the-black-caucus-snubs-obama-complicates-the-deal/2011/03/29/gIQAcW9znI_blog.html


138 posted on 08/01/2011 2:39:14 PM PDT by RummyChick (It's a Satan Sandwich with Satan Fries on the side - perfect for Obama 666)
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To: RummyChick

A “Super Congress” is illegal just like our Usurper-in-Chief.

What a horrible idea.


139 posted on 08/01/2011 2:39:34 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
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To: Jim Robinson

Agreed 100% Hold the dang line!

They’re going to now give the president almost a trillion dollars and then come Christmas time, he’ll get upwards of another, in excess of a trillion, and that’s on top of the other $2.2 trillion spending that’s being done!


140 posted on 08/01/2011 2:40:19 PM PDT by caww
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