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FOX NEWS: Tax Hikes 'Impossible' Under Debt Deal? Think Again ( Debt deal is indeed a BIG TAX HIKE!)
FoxNews ^ | August 01, 2011 3:20PM Eastern | Staff

Posted on 08/01/2011 11:06:13 AM PDT by Kevin in California

Edited on 08/01/2011 12:52:01 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Just reported that in this debt deal is indeed a BIG TAX HIKE!

This is breaking....:

Tax Hikes 'Impossible' Under Debt Deal? Think Again ...

Published August 01, 2011

| FoxNews.com

The debt-ceiling deal moving toward a vote in Congress could easily pave the way for tax increases despite Republican claims that tax hikes are "impossible" under a deal struck with the White House to reduce spending in exchange for a debt-limit increase. 

But as everyone knows, "impossible" isn't really in Washington's vocabulary.

Here's how it could happen:

After Congress enacts more than $900 billion in spending cuts to give President Obama a $900 billion lift in the nation's $14.3 trillion debt ceiling, a bipartisan committee will be formed to find roughly $1.5 trillion in additional deficit savings over the next decade. 

To get there, the committee is free to look at virtually anything -- including "revenue" -- even though House Speaker John Boehner said Sunday night that current budgeting guidelines make it "impossible" for the 12-member group to approve tax hikes. 

Other officials and analysts beg to differ. 

"The suggestion that it is impossible for the joint committee to raise tax revenue simply is not accurate, it's false," White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Monday. 

Tea Party-aligned Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, said that's one of the concerns stopping him from supporting the deal. 

"Certainly, tax increases could be something that we could face," Lee told Fox News. 

Boehner is able to claim no tax hikes are possible because the committee would work off the assumption that the Bush tax cuts -- all of them -- will expire in 2013. Combined with other expiring provisions, that adds up to $3.5 trillion in tax hikes over the next decade, without the committee taking any action

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To: citizen

Yeh...I wanted to throw something at the tv this morning, when Pelousy was being interviewed on this this morning, saying, “well, she hadn’t read what was in the bill just yet, but yadda yadda yadda....she was sure it was a good thing for the country, economy, et al.”

Damn I hate these people.


141 posted on 08/01/2011 11:53:51 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading.~Thomas Jeffer)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m with you all the way.


142 posted on 08/01/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: Sacajaweau
The Bush tax cuts expire in 2012. Not extending them is NOT considered a tax increase/new tax.

That's how they can get away with saying this does not include a tax hike. But the reality is that taxes would go up a LOT, regardless of what the politicians call it.

If Boehner knew this when he said there were no new taxes then he was telling at best a half truth intended to mislead. I call that a lie.

It's even worse if Boehner simply did not know that is what would happen.

Either way, I have lost all confidence in Boehner.

143 posted on 08/01/2011 11:53:57 AM PDT by EternalHope (You can't make a deal with the Devil, or reach across the aisle to Obama.)
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To: humblegunner
It's unsourced hear-say.

Hear-say? You don't say.

144 posted on 08/01/2011 11:54:10 AM PDT by Mr.Unique (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: GeronL
but the supercongress can recommend tax hikes and this deal says Congress HAS to vote for them or AUTOMATICALLY get defense cut

It's not a supercongress...it's a committee.

And the committee can also recommend tax cuts and Congress has to vote for them or get Medicare reformed.

Why aren't you stating that fact?

145 posted on 08/01/2011 11:54:10 AM PDT by what's up
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

No biggie. Everyone is overreacting here, IMHO. Obama has to get reelected before anything else happens. And right now it doesn’t look like Obama will get reelected due to stagnating economy.


146 posted on 08/01/2011 11:54:15 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Never trust a bill sponsored by a DEM. NEVER.


147 posted on 08/01/2011 11:54:51 AM PDT by rintense (God made me a conservative. FR made me a better one. :))
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To: Thane_Banquo

Please.

We borrow 40 cents on every dollar we spend.

That can’t last forever, but the answer is not that automatically debt = taxes.

Money can be printed. It’s called “monetizing” the debt. Not a good option, but an option nonetheless.

The economy can unleash growth and tax revenues would roll in without a tax increase. A properly constructed tax cut such as in capital gains, etc, has been a proven automatic revenue increaser. Any increase in revenues does not have to be spent and would therefore be available to balance a budget and pay down debt.

Please.

Get a grip.


148 posted on 08/01/2011 11:55:04 AM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: Kevin in California

Thanks for posting this. I also saw what you did.


149 posted on 08/01/2011 11:55:05 AM PDT by novemberslady
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To: Perdogg
Why is this being treated as a real news story?

Honestly? I think people just want to believe it's true. The Debt Ceiling story was always a non-starter, a big yawn, everyone knew they'd get some stupid deal together, the question is, what happened that that they were drowning out, that is the real story.
150 posted on 08/01/2011 11:55:13 AM PDT by Scythian
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To: RummyChick

want to be no tea party member will be put on the “commission”?

I hate the commission because it is not elected by the voters. The voters have a commission it is called congress.


151 posted on 08/01/2011 11:55:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: GeronL

That’s not true. If they don’t agree to the comission then there will be across the board cuts, including in medicare and defense.


152 posted on 08/01/2011 11:56:30 AM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: Stingray51
If the deal is based on a baseline

It's based on what it's in law now. It doesn't mean Hussein will not extend the tax cuts as he was under pressure to do last time.

The reason this misleading angle is being reported is that the WH is stretching the truth to try to arm-twist Dem House members to vote for the bill

153 posted on 08/01/2011 11:56:45 AM PDT by what's up
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To: humblegunner

It looks like Vaseline futures will shoot through the roof ...


154 posted on 08/01/2011 11:56:58 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: RummyChick

Is a satan sandwich like deviled ham? Because I like that.


155 posted on 08/01/2011 11:57:17 AM PDT by keat
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To: newzjunkey
will work off a current-law baseline

which INCREASES SPENDING 8% EVERY YEAR by law

156 posted on 08/01/2011 11:59:56 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: EternalHope

They were going to go up, by law, already.

They were not a part of any deal.

We all knew this. You say Boehner knew it?? You’re blaming Boehner for not speaking about it in context of the deal?? We all knew it. Completely separate and apart from the debt ceiling issue.


157 posted on 08/01/2011 12:00:10 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: keat

Deviled ham with Tabasco sauce and onions.


158 posted on 08/01/2011 12:01:50 PM PDT by Perdogg (0bama got 0sama?? Really, was 0sama on the golf course?)
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To: STARWISE

Thanks for the ping!!


159 posted on 08/01/2011 12:02:24 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: what's up

The committee is not going to recommend tax cuts. The GOP caved big time.


160 posted on 08/01/2011 12:03:13 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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