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Smoke and mirrors.
1 posted on 07/25/2011 3:47:13 PM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert

If there is not at least >$300B in cuts in 2012, it’s totally bogus.


2 posted on 07/25/2011 3:48:45 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Qbert

“Reid countered that House Republicans claimed the same savings windfall when they passed their budget earlier this year.”

Touche’


3 posted on 07/25/2011 3:50:07 PM PDT by listenhillary (It still increases the debt limit.)
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“Reid countered that House Republicans claimed the same savings windfall when they passed their budget earlier this year.”

If this is the case then Reid should be proud of himself for stopping the potential fraud, not emulating it.

4 posted on 07/25/2011 3:52:16 PM PDT by tobyhill (Real Spending Cuts Don't Require Increasing The Debt)
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I wish the republicans would grow a pair and just let the government shut down on the O’s birthday imaculation.


5 posted on 07/25/2011 3:53:56 PM PDT by OneVike (Just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Qbert

It may not raise taxes, but it doesn’t cut spending in any real way, consisting mostly of Reid-scored defense cuts from wars that Obama is ending. Also, although it may not explicitly raise taxes, it doesn’t stop the expiration in 2013 of the Bush tax levels.


6 posted on 07/25/2011 3:55:16 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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“Obama, meanwhile, will address the nation at 9 p.m. EDT”

Another BOHICA speech...cripes.


8 posted on 07/25/2011 3:57:23 PM PDT by jessduntno (Liberalism is socialism in a party dress. And just as masculine.)
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To: Qbert

Let me guess; the Reid plan allows Obama to continue his unprecedented deficit spending at a rate of $133 billion per month for the remainder. In return, Obama promises to cut spending beginning with year 2020. Does that sum up the Reid plan?


9 posted on 07/25/2011 3:59:39 PM PDT by Hoodat (Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. - (Rom 8:37))
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To: Qbert

Then they will close all income tax loopholes and people will not be able to afford their homes because he will be sure to close the mortgage interest deduction. And already over regulated businesses will be seriously wounded! I trust this guy as much as I would trust a very hungry tiger in a shopping mall! Spending cuts are ignored? Hold tight, Boehner! In fact, let’s go back to Paul Ryan’s proposal!


10 posted on 07/25/2011 4:01:49 PM PDT by Paperdoll (NO MORE BUSHS!)
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I thought he was told by both the House and Senate to stay OUT of this!!!!!
12 posted on 07/25/2011 4:03:10 PM PDT by Evil Slayer (Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war)
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Reid's plan, unveiled Monday, does not include any new tax revenue, as President Obama has demanded.

Scares me to death that the American people are dumb enough to be duped by this garbage.
14 posted on 07/25/2011 4:12:00 PM PDT by rjeffries
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Fees and insurance fines/premiums for Deathcare will not be stated as taxes. And taxes will not be identified as revenue ‘enhancements.’


15 posted on 07/25/2011 4:12:51 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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All he Marxist Kenyan cares about is a plan that extends past the 2012 elections. His only concern is to make sure his gravy train continues. PIGS!


17 posted on 07/25/2011 4:20:33 PM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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an Obama ultimatum.

Ultimatum?

ULTIMATUM?

I hope Bohner sticks his foot up Barry's rear end!

20 posted on 07/25/2011 4:24:23 PM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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FUBO!! No deals! Just cut, baby, cut!!


21 posted on 07/25/2011 4:25:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: All
http://www.speaker.gov/Contact/

Office of the Speaker
H-232 The Capitol
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: (202) 225-0600
Fax: (202) 225-5117

U.S. Capitol Switchboard, (202) 224-3121

23 posted on 07/25/2011 4:27:10 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama until 2017. Could happen.)
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(Blubber, Blubber)

Alright! Alright! We won't raise taxes. Just give me my next deficit spending fix. Please! Please! Before I start climbing the walls and swinging from the refters

(Sob)

24 posted on 07/25/2011 4:29:51 PM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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Obama addressing the nation again? He addresses us more often than the post office, but says nothing useful at any time.


26 posted on 07/25/2011 4:31:50 PM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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I propose an amendment to whatever plan is adopted: If the deficit goals (audited by independent non-government entity) and spending cuts are not met we hold special elections within 30 days for all Senate & House reps.


31 posted on 07/25/2011 5:11:15 PM PDT by Thom Pain (Raising Tax RATES decreases Tax REVENUES. Spread the word.)
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“”particularly $1 trillion or so in savings claimed by troop cuts in Iraq and Afghanistan over the coming decade.””

Charles Krauthammer said tonight that we might as well say we can cut $20 billion by not storming Normandy beaches again...


33 posted on 07/25/2011 6:03:27 PM PDT by Thank You Rush
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