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Posted on 07/24/2011 6:54:25 AM PDT by AnalogReigns
I just received an email from World Net Daily advertising some books. Not unusual, as I'm on their list, and they send ads all the time. What is strange though, is the fact that all the books in this ad are religious AND take the oddball "7th-day Sabbath" position--definitely a very minority position among conservative evangelicals, and Christians of all stripes.
The ad also hints at some dark conspiracy amidst conventional Christians, accusing us of not reading the bible carefully.
Some evangelical apologists too categorize Adventism (which started with those who firmly predicted Jesus to come again in the 1840s) itself is at least an eccentric sect, following Old Testament and extra-biblical regulations, if not a cult, not unlike many others that got founded about that time.
Is World Net Daily now officially Adventist?
Any believer who desires to be under the law is perfectly free to do so. Lots a luck! I never seemed able to keep it. But maybe you can do it better than me. On the other hand, keeping the law requires perfection, so just doing it better than me won’t cut it.
***You see, if we have not ceased from unbelief, or sin, we have not entered into God’s rest, the true meaning of sabbath and we are not saved by grace.***
A little more fleshing out...The Hebrews did not enter the HOLY LAND (God’s Rest) when God gave it to them and for 40 years died in the desert.
Two thousand years ago the Jews did not enter into God’s Rest (Christ) and 40 years later died in the Roman invasion.
Christians have entered into God’s Rest (Christ) and have ceased from their own efforts because they are IN CHRIST.
Christ alone kept the commandments perfectly, and we being in Christ are covered by his righteousness, not our own efforts. Therefore, being in Christ every day for us is a Sabbath day’s rest from our own efforts.
Just as God rested on Saturday, upon completion of the Old Creation, so too, God-the-Son-in-human-flesh rested on Sunday from the keystone act of the New Creation, Jesus’ resurrection. Our worship corresponds to a miracle greater than even Creation itself... our Messiah’s resurrection—and our justification.
Centuries before Constantine (why does the poor emperor get blamed for everything?) Christians were worshiping on Sunday.
We do know He rose on the first day of the week Careful reading of the Holy Scriptures will demonstrate that May you seek the face of YHvH in His WORD. We have no knowledge that Yah'shua rose on Sunday.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
which began at sundown on Saturday.
Yah'shua rose on the YHvH commanded Feast of First Fruits.
It is all spelled out in Leviticus 23.
It is the day following the Sabbath following Passover.
***Go on enjoying your fantasy that an entity capable of such things dictated it all to a bunch of primitive sheep herders.****
Whatever floats your boat, if you want to believe nothing can become something and can change over time to something completely different go ahead. The only difference between evolution and weirwolves is one does it slowly over time and the other does it quickly in the light of the full moon.
We are not under the law, but under Christ, the Creator of the law. However, that doesn’t mean that the Creator of the law has abandoned the principles of government and behavior which the law describes. It is precisely because these laws (principles) could not be abandoned that made it necessary for God’s Son to take the penalty of transgression in Himself in order for there to be any path of redemption available to fallen man.
That was the point I was trying to make. I think you stated it better. BTW, your paintings are awesome.
Adventists don’t expect to keep the law perfectly either, for we are sinful and corruptable creatures. We are all dependent upon Christ to have kept the law for us and the cover our sin with His righteousness.
Our attempt to keep it is simply the acknowledgement that it is still valid.
You don’t throw it out because you can’t keep it perfectly.
Do you want to try arguing that traffic laws should be done away with, because you can’t help but get the occasional speeding ticket?
To add to that. The Jews didn’t properly prepare Christ’s burial because He died just before the sixth day ended, but they also rested the seventh day. It was at the first opportunity the Sabbath day ended did they go and attend to it, and He was risen.
The Sabbath reinstated during the Tribulation is not valid because the work of Christ is not yet complete. It is observed in conjunction with Temple built during the Tribulation and is therefore not recognized. The Sabbath that is observed AFTER the Tribulation is the one reinstated by the Kingship of Christ and IS recognized.
You are mixing up your scriptures to try and prove your point and in doing so your errors are very apparent.
What point are you trying to make?
As much as I know this will make me sound hateful, morality and religiousity don’t guarantee entrance into Heaven. Only the blood of Christ can do that.
No. Here is an example of why I think Evangelicals don’t understand the law. That is their particular shortcoming, I respectfully think.
If God could suspend the law at any time, He could have suspended it prior to man’s Creation, negating the issue of sin and the need for Christ to die. If God could have negated the law, but only choose to do so after great suffering and the death of His Son, it means that God is not loving and longsuffering, which makes Him a liar, for that is what He says about Himself.
The fact that God did not negate the law for the sake of His Son and the fact that He says we will be keeping those very same in the New Earth means that the law is likely not negateable under and circumstances and is just as valid now as it was back then and will be in the future.
Based on Matthew 12:40
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach
NAU Matthew 12:40
I would think He was buried
for just as JONAH WAS THREE DAYS AND THREE
NIGHTS IN THE BELLY OF THE SEA MONSTER,
so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights
in the heart of the earth.
prior to sundown Wednesday.
The Bible only says that He died and was buried three days. It does not say those days were completely 24 hours each, and I think for sake of a hot Middle Eastern sun and decomposing bodies aren’t healthy things to deal with, the Jews would have wanted to prepare the body ASAP.
I personally think Christ died at the tail end of the sixthday, stayed dead on the Sabbath and then was resurrected sometime on the first day.
God’s purpose in promoting the law was to give man a schoolteacher to lead him to Christ. (Galatians 3:25) Had he negated it, there would be nothing to lead man to seek a Savior. But the law was not originally instituted by God. It was instituted by Adam when he ate from the Tree of the Knowledge and Good and Evil, and in so doing, gaining the knowledge of good, that which man doesn’t do he will be condemned for (James 4:17).
The Bible makes it clear we die to that law and rise to new life in the Law of Christ. Since the LOC is faith in Jesus, and not “the oldness of the letter” we are saved from all sin, as the strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56). God is well able to set the conditions by which we can obey him, and that can include removing the law for believers. Now Christians are justified by faith alone, whereas the unbeliever has nothing to stand on but his works, all of which are filthy rags and cannot save him.
“We are all going to be wrong somewhere, which is why we need Christ to cover our shortcomings.”
This, in a nutshell, tells you all you need to know about the SDA church; Christ covers our “shortcomings”.
According to Scripture, Christ died for our SIN, not shortcomings. We are hopelessly lost in our love of self - dead in trespasses and sins until God makes us alive in Christ - which is ALL of grace.
Keeping the law or not, we are still justified by faith alone. I cannot keep the law perfectly and even if it could, it would not save me.
This is where Evangelicals and I differ. I don’t keep the law because it saves me, but they keep accusing me of that.
I think that the Evangelical position lumps what is eternal and unchanging with what was meant to be temporary and circumstantial as one.
Christ Himself said that the Ten Commandments are equally valid, so if an Evangelical equates keeping the Ten Commandments as somehow nullifyinh the death of Christ, it means that the Evangelical position is such that one must break them, in order to avoid keeping them.
Which means, lying and murdering and breaking the other eight are mandatory under the Evangelical code of xconduxt.
Either we keep them or we break them. There is no middle ground on this.
I use the term shortcoming, because it implies our inability to meet God’s requirements. God, through Jesus Christ, compensates for what we can’t do. And one of the things we cannot do is be sinless.
We might be able to act sinless, but those acts still come from a corrupted heart.
So what denomination do you belong to? If none, how do you worship? Do you follow, as Jesus did, Jewish customs, rituals, and practices? If not, why?
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