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The Food-Stamp Crime Wave
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Posted on 07/11/2011 8:57:37 AM PDT by STJPII

The number of food-stamp recipients has soared to 44 million from 26 million in 2007. Not surprisingly, fraud and abuse are rampant..Millionaires are now legally entitled to collect food stamps as long as they have little or no monthly income. Thirty-five states have abolished asset tests for most food-stamp recipients. These and similar "paperwork reduction" reforms advocated by the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA) are turning the food-stamp program into a magnet for abuses and absurdities.

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Not that Charlie Rangel wasn't a lying fool before this but it seems a little more so now.
1 posted on 07/11/2011 8:57:44 AM PDT by STJPII
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Why are there so many redundent programs: WIC, Welfare, Food-Stamps, Free School meals, etc.???


2 posted on 07/11/2011 9:03:21 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: STJPII
Why are there so many redundant programs: WIC, Welfare, Food-Stamps, Free School meals, etc.???
3 posted on 07/11/2011 9:03:41 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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Re: redundant programs

If a family gets food stamps, can anyone explain to me why they don't have to use them to pay for school lunch?

4 posted on 07/11/2011 9:09:20 AM PDT by grania
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To: STJPII
The number of food-stamp recipients has soared to 44 million from 26 million in 2007.

They're advertising for NEW Food Stamp recipients on the radio here. It's okay. It's okay, even if you own a house and a car (but not a private jet).

ML/NJ

5 posted on 07/11/2011 9:10:07 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Monterrosa-24

Why are there so many redundant posts?

;-)

Seriously, though, the answer is that this way they can hide all the money they spend. Note that the food stamps program is now bigger than all of the rest of the USDA budget combined...actual Agriculture programs are a side part of the USDA now.

And most people think all that spending is under Health and Human Services, so when they look at the HHS budget, they don’t realize they’re seeing only part of the spending.

Also, the way millionaires can get food stamps illustrates how ridiculous it is to define “rich” by income rather than wealth.


6 posted on 07/11/2011 9:12:32 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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and anyone on that program can get a free cell-phone!

from the programs, you would think the govt was rolling in cash - not broke.


7 posted on 07/11/2011 9:13:46 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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we need to change the terms to rich and high income.

watch the hollywood rats squeal if you really tried to tax assets..


8 posted on 07/11/2011 9:15:31 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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To: STJPII

There is a huge rip off of the system going on, tremendous corruption and dishonesty throughout society. It’s not just food stamps.


9 posted on 07/11/2011 9:17:24 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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So someone should have to sell their car and house immediately after getting laid off just so their family won’t go hungry? Is that what we’re proposing here?

That idea strikes me as more absurd than giving food stamps to a millionaire.


10 posted on 07/11/2011 9:19:37 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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To: rokkitapps

Yep, free cell phones are a big big entitlement now.

People are afraid to point fingers and actually deny “poor people” anything. Poor people are driving new suv’s, carrying Gucci bags, free cell phones standard. This is NOT an exaggeration. It’s everyday experience.


11 posted on 07/11/2011 9:20:04 AM PDT by Williams (Honey Badger Don't Care)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Comrade, you ask silly questions. Each tentacle of the fedgov needs its own infrastructure. Communications staff, computer techs, support staff of all kinds, field offices, assistants to the assistant director, mail room, motor pool, lobbyists, day care, human resources, etc., etc. The more programs, the more government employees. Do you understand now? Redundancy is the goal.


12 posted on 07/11/2011 9:20:49 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (We .. have a purpose .. no longer to please every dictator with a vote at the UN. PM Harper)
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To: Monterrosa-24

Why are there so many redundant posts here on FR? Imponderable, I say.


13 posted on 07/11/2011 9:22:14 AM PDT by pingman (Durn tootin'; I like Glock shootin'!)
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yes, not just welfare and foodstamps on the public teat ... many if not most govt jobs are useless positions that could be eliminated - most with great benefits and pensions - good luck getting your nice 100k govt job if you are white, straight male!! govt jobs are for blacks and gays.


14 posted on 07/11/2011 9:24:28 AM PDT by rokkitapps ( Hearings on healthcare waivers NOW! (If you agree make this your tagline))
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WIC... there's a beauty. You ought to see the fat pay days THERE for Dr.’s wives to play ‘social worker/concerned citizen’.

I think the qualifying threshold for benefits is like 34K or something.

15 posted on 07/11/2011 9:30:36 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils. " Arthur Wellesley)
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we need to change the terms to rich and high income.

You've got that right. I had zero, and I mean ZERO income in the 11th month after my layoff from Nortel, because the company with which I'd had a 3-month short-term contract sent their unemployment payments to the wrong state. I spent a month trying to straighten that out before my first unemployment check was cut.

We managed to scrape by until my hire date of my new job, but we would have been eligible for Food Stamps for that month even though my car was worth $7,000 and my house was worth $225,000.

16 posted on 07/11/2011 9:31:32 AM PDT by mvpel (Michael Pelletier)
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I would feel no shame whatsoever if I could get on food stamps. It would take years for me to get back what they already stole.


17 posted on 07/11/2011 9:31:54 AM PDT by fnord (Republicans are just the right-wing of the left-wing of American politics)
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So someone should have to sell their car and house immediately after getting laid off just so their family won’t go hungry? Is that what we’re proposing here?

Tell you what Pal, you buy food for people you don't know and leave me out of it. Have these people ever heard of saving for a rainy day? Do they have any family or friends? Do they belong to a church or a synagogue?

Immediately after getting laid off? Ever heard of unemployment insurance?

FTR, I haven't had any work at all this entire year; and I'm not eligible for unemployment. I don't expect you to care, and you shouldn't be FORCED to care.

ML/NJ

18 posted on 07/11/2011 9:32:15 AM PDT by ml/nj
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Why are there so many redundant programs: WIC, Welfare, Food-Stamps, Free School meals, etc.???

Each new program allows some federal/state/county/city government bureaucracy to grow in size. Each new program allows its founding agency to reward its political friends with jobs as administrators, assistants to administrators, deputy assistants, etc. By the time the program has been fleshed out and starts operating, huge amounts of money have been spent on overhead.

The primary goal of the head of any government agency is to grow his fiefdom, not to solve the problem it was intended to solve.

19 posted on 07/11/2011 9:32:22 AM PDT by Bob
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I get jealous when I see what some of these people buy…Delmonico steaks, the best beer and wine. Last night, ABC World News did a sob story about people on food stamps. Both adults shown in the story were grossly overweight. Could they not find anyone who looked malnourished? Their cart was filled with sausage, eggs and milk and it didn’t last the whole month. *sniff* Apparently they don’t realize oatmeal or rice would stretch the tax payers dollar.
20 posted on 07/11/2011 9:33:55 AM PDT by neefer (Because you can't starve us out and you can't make us run.)
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