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The End is Near for Faith in AGW ( That would be Man Made Global Warming...for those new to AGW)
watts up with that? ^ | June 25, 2011 | Russell Cook

Posted on 06/27/2011 7:06:33 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

When the public learns about huge faults in the skeptic scientist accusation, combined with the faults in the IPCC, the result may send AGW into total collapse.

Guest post submitted by Russell Cook

I’m preaching to the choir here when I say appearances of people hiding AGW’s problems beg for clichés – the emperor has no clothes, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain, nothing to see here, move along. But I’m not a scientist, nor do I have a scintilla of expertise to say with any authority that the IPCC is wrong and skeptic scientists are right.

The one thing I can do is offer an ordinary citizen’s informed view of what the barrier is preventing skeptics’ viewpoints from being heard, and how that barrier can turn from the paper-thin success story it is into a cancer that has the potential to wipe out the entire ideology of AGW.

Notice that I said ‘informed view’. I watch the mainstream media, but I also read sites like this one, while a large chunk of the public does not. Therein lies the problem, as evidenced by this example: On October 12, 2007, the PBS NewsHour aired a glowing broadcast about Al Gore winning the Nobel Prize, in which IPCC scientist Michael Oppenheimer offered scary scenarios rivaling those in Gore’s movie. Two days prior, a UK judge ruled there were nine errors in the movie and it could only be shown in UK schools “with guidance notes to prevent political indoctrination”. Yet, I defy anybody to locate a solitary mention of this in any NewsHour broadcast.

See the problem? From my extensive digging through the NewsHour’s broadcast archives, Michael Oppenheimer has appeared on the program eight times and three other IPCC scientists have appeared there on six occasions collectively, all speaking at length about AGW with no rebuttal. How many times have skeptic scientists been allowed a similar opportunity there? Zero. Our friend Pat Michaels appeared once briefly in a taped segment to give his thoughts about ClimateGate…. four months after that event was breaking news.

The nothing to see here, move along tactic works fine as long as the bulk of the audience doesn’t know legitimate skeptic scientists exist.

The keyword is ‘legitimate’, and that’s where the barrier comes in. When a large portion of people around the world learn about global warming through Al Gore’s movie and through internet repetitions of its details, or from viral regurgitated details from anti-skeptic book author Ross Gelbspan’s 1997 The Heat is On and 2004 Boiling Point, then the perception is there are no legitimate skeptic scientists.

The Gore / Gelbspan / internet repetitions are one-and-the-same. Skeptic scientists are accused of being in a fossil fuel-funded conspiracy to “reposition global warming as theory rather than fact“, and this mimics the old tobacco industry conspiracy. Everybody remembers how well that one turned out.

The key to the whole accusation is the “reposition global warming” sentence – it’s in Gore’s movie, it’s in two of the three global warming nuisance lawsuits, and was spread out as far as the eye could see on the internet beginning largely in 1996. When I first stumbled onto the phrase in late 2009, my google searches yielded seemingly endless amounts of accusers using the phrase, though lately all of my online articles about it have ‘tainted’ the search results rather noticeably.

Here’s the big problem I found:  That accusation is based on a 1991 memo no one was allowed to see, using an out-of-context sentence, promoted by a person who was not a Pulitzer winner despite accolades to the contrary, who was credited with finding the memo by Al Gore, but Gore had the memo collection in his own possession four years earlier.

And just days ago, Gore mysteriously contradicts himself again in Rolling Stone about who found the memo. He also slams the mainstream media, who’ve been largely responsible for creating and maintaining the barrier keeping the public unaware about skeptic scientists. But, that’s a rather old ruse to to prompt left-leaning journalists to say to themselves, “I’m not going to be duped into diluting the importance of this issue by giving equal time to skeptic scientists”. None of the current media people are insulted because they say, “I’m not that guy.” It’s been a very clever tactic, of course dependent on reporters intuitively knowing all skeptic scientists must be accepting fossil fuel money. Seventeen+ months of research on this allows me to point out these problems in my latest article, “Pt II: Is Gore’s Accusation of Skeptic Climate Scientists Still a Hoax?

The thing to consider here is that AGW promoters absolutely, positively do not want to see the kind of debate that occurred at last November’s US House testimony between Richard Lindzen and Ralph Cicerone. Otherwise, it becomes abundantly obvious that Lindzen’s level of expertise is not something that would be paid for and pre-scripted in an Exxon conference room. And most critical of all, no reporter must ask in response to such an accusation, “There is proof that he’s literally paid to make that stuff up, right?”

Their mantra is ‘settled science’ / ‘corrupt skeptics’ / ‘the media dilutes the issue by talking to skeptics’. This only works when there is faith in that whole system, as in the US investment banks circa 2007 and Bernie Madoff’s ponzi scheme.

Wipe out the faith in this mantra and what happens?


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It's hard to take gore seriously about anything.


21 posted on 06/27/2011 10:41:45 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

1988? But in the mid 1970’s we had global cooling. And I thought 1998 was the hottest year on record. Mathematically, shouldn’t 1988 have been “just right”?


22 posted on 06/27/2011 10:46:11 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: wastedyears

“I’m drawing a blank on MWP.”
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Medieval Warm Period.... somewhere around 900 to 1400 AD.
It is when Europe really started to develop, and exploration took off.
Greenland was colonized, and supposedly they were able to grow grapes and make wine.
The MWP was followed by the “Little Ice Age”.


23 posted on 06/27/2011 10:48:42 PM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: AlexW

Ah I see.


24 posted on 06/27/2011 10:56:43 PM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; proud_yank; Bockscar; grey_whiskers; WL-law; IrishCatholic; Whenifhow; ...
Thanx for the ping Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

25 posted on 06/27/2011 11:22:44 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wish I could believe this but those who are in power want AGW to be real even if they know it is not - it allows for all the control that they could hope for in their wildest fantasies. They will FIX the world whether it needs it or not.

Mel


26 posted on 06/27/2011 11:34:56 PM PDT by melsec
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To: boop
Warming and cooling are trends, not absolute temperatures.

Global warming is global, not local.

Clean Air legislation removed particulates that had been acting to cool.

Etc.

27 posted on 06/27/2011 11:55:24 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: Gondring
Right....I know that. I was simply using Rolle's theorem of the mean from calculus. If they used all of the data that was known in the 70's that showed a cooling trend, by 1998 they had all of that data plus another 20 years, which showed a warming trend, then you can prove, mathematically that there was a time when things were just right so to speak. 1988 would have been the perfect halfway point, thus my comment.

BTW, I don't follow the particulates in the atmosphere causing cooling. Renowned and world famous climatologist Seth MacFarlane said that Venus is hot because of cloud cover and particulates trapping heat. And how could the US Clean Air legislation have made there be less particulates, when China and India pump out way more than we ever did?

28 posted on 06/28/2011 1:43:30 AM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: AlexW
We can not fix stupid.

But we CAN fix IGNORANT!

29 posted on 06/28/2011 4:15:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
...the media is withholding the key information from the public.

This is true of ALL topics!

...the media is withholding the key information from the public.

30 posted on 06/28/2011 4:16:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: boop
Renowned and world famous climatologist Seth MacFarlane said that Venus is hot because of cloud cover and particulates trapping heat.

Dang!

In MY area, when it's cloudy, it is COOLER for they REFLECT the heat!

31 posted on 06/28/2011 4:24:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

“But we CAN fix IGNORANT!”
______________________________

In the US?, not likely, now that the Communist control most all of the media. From what I hear, even FOX has become leftist lite.
I may soon find out.
A satellite dish salesman came by today offering a new service
with NO Commie News Network, and no British Babble Corp.
They have only FOX for news.

If I did not have Free Republic, I would have no news at all.


32 posted on 06/28/2011 4:29:16 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe that AGW has caused an enormous surge in the lemming population. However, due to Darwin, these lemmings have evolved into GOREBOTS!

These GOREBOTS are devotedly following their idols, Tweedledum and Tweedledee....oops, I mean Gore and Gorbechov.

Due to the depletion of the ozone layer and an excess of SUV exhaust, some lemmings have mutated into OBAMABOTS. Often, these subspecies are indistinguishable by untrained observers. However, all require protection under the Endangered Species Act (due to Bible clinging, gun totin’ folks like Palin) AND massive Federal funding for further study.

/sarc


33 posted on 06/28/2011 4:29:50 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: boop
Renowned and world famous climatologist Seth MacFarlane said that Venus is hot because of cloud cover and particulates trapping heat.

Venus receives almost double the amout of heat per square meter as Earth. (wiki)

Solar radiation maximum and minimum (W/m²)

Venus 2,647 – 2,576
Earth 1,413 – 1,321

34 posted on 06/28/2011 4:31:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Steely Tom
Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.

Thanks!

This is the first time I've seen the first portion of that quote.

Interesting!

35 posted on 06/28/2011 4:33:59 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know.)
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To: AlexW
...not likely,...

I hear ya!

We gotta get the SCHOOLS back.

Think it's possible?

36 posted on 06/28/2011 4:40:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: BwanaNdege
...AND massive Federal funding for further study.

Well the schools and the LANGUAGE!!!

...AND massive amounts of our TAXES for further study.

37 posted on 06/28/2011 4:42:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Elsie

We gotta get the SCHOOLS back.
Think it’s possible?
___________________________________________

No way.
Pubic (sic) schools are totally run by the Marxist now.

Conservatives no longer have the gonads to go after the school boards, and anyway, most of them use private schools for their kids.
Many others home school.


38 posted on 06/28/2011 4:53:23 AM PDT by AlexW (Proud eligibility skeptic)
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To: Elsie

O-M-G, science and reasoning in the same post, we’re saved.

Thank you for the thread’s course correction.

Who knew venus and earth were not in the same orbit?

(apparently some posters here)


39 posted on 06/28/2011 5:14:50 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I recommend the following reading:

The Chilling Stars by Henrick Svensmark
Not by Fire but by Ice by Robert Feliz
The Little Ice Age by Brain Fagan

And websites for nonbiased reports and predictions on weather and other earth phenomena.
iceagenow.com
weather action (piers corbyn website)


40 posted on 06/28/2011 5:23:58 AM PDT by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1993905/posts)
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