This. Damned shame, really; Rollins is absolutely going to hobble Bachmann's campaign, long-term... and it doesn't have to be that way.
Posted on 06/22/2011 9:20:38 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads
Excellent post!!!
Absolutely! I think Bachmann should go back to Minnesota and study for a couple years, perhaps get a better understanding of where all the famous US battles took place.
But before she heads back to Minnesota, I think a public apology is in order for her treatment of Gov Palin, through Rollins, and the stuff she said herself
“Advice...jump”
Ah yes, there you are in the valley too. Have you met Gargantua down there yet?
You betcha!
This. Damned shame, really; Rollins is absolutely going to hobble Bachmann's campaign, long-term... and it doesn't have to be that way.
This possibe scenario is another illustration of the adage that there is "nothing new under the sun". The same strategy was used by the Establishment (they were called the Money Trust back then - Rockefeller, J.P.Morgan, Randolph Hearst et al.) in 1912 when they flattered and stroked Teddy Roosevelt's ego and convinced him to run as the "Bull Moose" third party candidate against William H. Taft-R and Woodrow Wilson-D.
The Money Trust was desperate to get the Federal Reserve Act passed (Taft opposed it - Wilson supported it). Through their agents they funded and supported in the major newspapers (which they owned, of course) both Roosevelt(secretly) and Wilson(publicly). Roosevelt, of course, pulled the most votes from Taft, thus handing the election to Wilson. This led directly to the enactment of both the Federal Reserve Act and the Thirteenth Amendment(the income tax).
Just as today, whether Roosevelt knew his backers were the same ones who were publicly pushing Wilson is unknown and unprovable. Since he was such an egotist that he could be easily played, my personal opinion is that Teddy was simply a an unwitting dupe.
Two things are certain: history repeats, and we refuse to learn from it... /g
Quite a Dr. Evil complex you have there, Chip. Pfft.
I suspect it's due to a sadly inadequate... ummmmmmm... "Mini-Me." ;)
Yes, I realize there is no proof. That is why I said I’m not sure if Bachmann is a participant or just a dupe. And when I referred to the press, I wasn’t thinking about Rolling Stone, but more the likes of MSNBC.
I’ve always liked Michele. She always said the right things and seemed to agree with me on most issues, but I no longer trust her. The first thing that raised my eyebrow happened during the gov’t shutdown debate. She was interviewed and made an impassioned statement about how hard Boehner had fought for us. Later, we find out the deal was smoke and mirrors and we got squat out of it. That was the first time I felt betrayed by Bachmann. Yes, I felt betrayed by Boehner as well but I expected it from him. Michele’s job in the whole ordeal seemed to be to try to pacify the tea party by using her credibility to make us believe the Republicans weren’t selling us down the river - again.
Fast forward a few months and you have Michele entering the presidential race. The more the merrier I guess, but she has no executive experience and we’ve already seen how that works with Obama. Granted she’s not the communist he is, but we need someone who knows how to get things done. We need someone who’s not just going to maintain the status quo, but who’s going to reverse course. I’m not sure that’s Michele.
A couple weeks ago, the press started their “cat fight” meme about bad blood between Bachmann and Palin. I was very happy to see Michele say in an interview that there was no bad blood, that she considered Sarah a friend. Twenty-four hours later, we have Ed Rollins out trashing Palin on TV. Michele’s response...................(crickets chirping)? I’m still waiting to hear Michele defend her friend, or in some other way, indicate to the public that she does not condone Ed’s idiotic remarks. He does work for her, after all. That was betrayal #2 and showed a distinct lack of loyalty, considering that Palin helped her get re-elected.
Election night Nov 2010, I watched the interview with Bachmann and Chris Mathews. The mutual disgust between the two was pretty evident, especially on Mathews side. Not only that but he went away from the interview angry and embarassed because she brought up the leg tingle remark. Fast forward to this past week, where he said on his show that she was by far his favorite Republican candidate. He said it with a straight face and no sarcasm in his voice. The complete turn-around in his opinion would make anyone wonder what the he!! is going on. He’s not the only one in the LSM that has been singing her praises over the last week, where before they were either calling her stupid or crazy.
So no, I don’t have amy proof. It’s not like they are going to be stupid enough to write it down if a deal was made. The point is I can no longer trust her to be working in our best interests. If you support her, that’s great but don’t expect those of us who don’t to change our minds simply because you accuse us of being part of the Bachmann Hater Overdrive. You wouldn’t support someone you don’t trust either.
With all due respect, how can you know Bachmann doesn’t have skeletons (or things that can be turned into skeletons) that would derail her candidacy? Full disclosure: I am a Palin supporter and at this point I have no clue who I would support if she doesn’t run...but I’m not asking facetiously as I figure someone who is as supportive of Bachmann as you would be well aware of her history.
Every single politician in history has skeletons and right now the atmosphere is very contentious (one of the advantages I think Palin...and even Romney...has is they’ve been vetted so thoroughly we couldn’t learn more if we were privy to their proctology exams). By virtue of his playing on the national stage in the corporate world, Herman Cain may fall in this category as well.
However, Bachmann has only recently become a player on the national stage. Minnesotans are much more familiar with her to be sure but scrutiny on a state level is hardly the same as what a national news media can do. If you think Bachmann’s going to be spared the extreme scrutiny Palin got (and her being just the VP nominee) then you simply don’t have a healthy understanding of who the media is. Hell, Palin had an 80% approval rating and appeared well-loved and well known in her state and look what happened to her. This was long before the “she quit” had become a meme Goebbels would be proud of.
One or even a couple disgruntled foster children are to be expected. If the media trots out more than that (or ones whose “stories” can garner the kind of “horror” the media will be looking for) with reasonably plausible stories they can milk that until she looks like the wicked witch of the west. Heck, look what the did to Palin because her daughter (not unlike many teenage girls) chose a complete loser for a boyfriend and made the stupid decision to have sex with him. That’s a situation millions of GOOD and DECENT families confront everyday but Palin was made to look like the second coming of Andrea Yates.
And what about subsidies? Does she support them? They may play well in certain areas of the country but most Americans are in no mood to have their hard-earned money spent in ways better managed ONLY by the private sector. What about earmarks? What kinds of earmarks has she gotten for her district? Can any of her actions be seen as cronyism (either as special favors or other perks) to family or supporters? Again, these are serious issues because these are serious times. If she gets the nod can she take the heat? When you’re in congress criticism is spread around and even as a supporter of the tea party she hasn’t received the criticism and scrutiny of some of it’s more vociferous and prominent supporters. She’s also had a job to do in congress so she hasn’t been able to be “out there” like other have. This is to her credit since she has people she was elected to represent.
As a Palin supporter who was completely stunned by the level of scrutiny (and thankful that there was really nothing TO uncover...not that they didn’t make hay with what they had) these are serious questions I have. Running for congress and having the eyes of a small portion of the state and a few local media outlets on your tail is a whole different ball game than having the full weight of the (sometimes international) press digging through your life from the hour of your conception.
Honestly, I’m not denigrating your candidate but it’s important to know what we might be up against should she be our nominee. A few establishment campaign managers aren’t going to cut it. They did nothing for Romney, Huckabee, McCain, H.W. Bush, etal in previous elections/primaries.
Cindie
If she endorses anyone it will probably be Rick Perry. He will be sold as the candidate with the best combination of conservatism and electability, a middle ground between Bachmann and Romney.
>> “Bachmann’s is the third in a series of challenges from right wing long shots...” <<
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Sorry, but Bachmann is not from the right, but the left.
She was big on Carter-Mondale, and has been a part of numerous leftist overtures in her legislative career in Minnesota.
Were she a conservative, she would be attacking the liberal Romney, rather than playing footsie.
Bachmann destroys, rather than building.
Bachmann is a liberal, by her record, both in the past and in the present.
She is decidedly on the side of raising the debt ceiling; an action that will doom the US to irrelevance on the global scene due to the unmanagable debt level.
She is also leaning toward support for general amnesty with no strings attached for illegal immigrants.
>> “I see a lot of wild unsubstantiated nonsense.” <<
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Stop reading your diary.
Does your husband know you’re posing for shots like that?
>> “ It increases the odds of ending up with the best one to defeat Obama” <<
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No, it does the opposite:
It assures a RINO appointment by the GOP/DEM establishment.
Bachmann is playing Ross Perot on a primary scale.
It’s Phil CRANE, 1980, not Phil Gramm. In 1980, Gramm was still a Democrat.
Phil CRANE was actually very handsome, well spoken, telegenic, decidedly conservative, with a big beautiful family. I also don’t see where this article established that Crane was anyone’s, much less ‘the establishment’s” stalking horse. His run may have infurated the Reagan folks (or not) but the ‘stalking horse’ argument has not been made in this article.
Someday you might become intellectually honest. That post was not. It does nothing to help the “candidate” you support.
I feel very sorry for you.
>> “Long before Karl Rove was known outside of Texas, Bachmann was a solid Conservative voice in Minnesota politics.” <<
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That is an unforgivable lie!
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/69153-bachmann-was-a-jimmy-carter-democrat
Bachmann is a typical liberal elitist politician.
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