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Is Michele Bachmann Sarah Palin's Phil Crane?
06/22/2011 | Brices Crossroads

Posted on 06/22/2011 9:20:38 AM PDT by Brices Crossroads

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To: hellbender
People need to consider that these writers are impressed with Bachmann quite simply because she is....well, impressive.

Sorry, but this part of your argument I can't buy. If you've been paying attention to news coverage of Bachmann over the last couple years, you know the media despises her and the establishment ignores her. Suddenly, in the last week, everyone loves her. Whether Michele is party to this or just an unwilling dupe remains to be seen, but it is clear that the media and the establishment see her as a way of taking out Palin and they are trying to help her.

61 posted on 06/22/2011 10:56:27 AM PDT by Jess79
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To: Brices Crossroads

Excellent piece. Much more grounded than many well-intended and political operative posters here want to see.


62 posted on 06/22/2011 10:57:38 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: parksstp
“On the president’s side, it’s still early. On the Republican side, there’s got to be concern in Romney’s camp,” said Boston University political historian Thomas Whalen.

“If Michele Bachmann wins New Hampshire, it’s all over for Romney,” said Whalen. “Bachmann showing a surge right now is a major red flag.”

He said Romney must be praying Sarah Palin gets off the sidelines and jumps in the GOP race.

Are you kidding me? Context. Context. This is laughable, not to mention stupid.

63 posted on 06/22/2011 11:01:32 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: parksstp
I'll keep it simple for you since you seem to be a simple minded individual.

She claims to be something of an expert in the US tax code and says it is a terrible thing. Her bio doesn't show where she had managed to get on any tax writing committees. Doing so, as to influence the debate, would be an ACCOMPLISHMENT.

She recently said she supported the Ryan Medicare Plan with an asterisk. The reason for less than 100% support? Senior citizens don't understand the plan. That response is unadulterated bull$h!t. Leaders sign on and sell it. This fraud was worried that her constituents wouldn't understand her vote and hold it against her.

I can get you a few more, but I don't want to overwhelm you with Bachmann's reality.

64 posted on 06/22/2011 11:02:13 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (JMO but I reserve the right to be wrong...)
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To: frposty
"Much as I like Palin, (...here we go again...) if it becomes obvious that she can’t defeat Obama, we must not nominate her."

What a stool. And just how will we "know" this? From "polls" that were taken "weighted" for "accuracy?" Grow a brain, then get a book-on-tape about how to use it.

You are more transparent than the window I'm looking out at the rain through, though you serve much the same purpose. At least you don't fool anyone.

Stool.

;^\/

65 posted on 06/22/2011 11:03:05 AM PDT by Gargantua ("Palin 2012 ~ Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: MestaMachine
It's actually killing people. It really is.

;)

66 posted on 06/22/2011 11:05:27 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Jess79
The MSM loves Bachmann? Haven't you seen this? (and it's just the beginning of the bombardment she can expect):

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738336/posts

There is simply no proof at all of any conspiracy between Romney and Bachmann against Palin. The only person blocking Palin is Sarah herself; she has chosen not to enter the race.

However, it is no myth at all that the people in the Bachmann Hater Overdrive on FR are doing the work of the Left by their attacks on a rising star of the conservative movement.

67 posted on 06/22/2011 11:18:27 AM PDT by hellbender
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To: Gargantua

“And just how will we “know” this?” (that Palin can’t beat obama)

Trust me. I will know, and I will attempt to guide you in future posts. I am on the mountain top. I see you down there in the valley.


68 posted on 06/22/2011 11:20:23 AM PDT by frposty (I'm a simpleton)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP; Virginia Ridgerunner

Yeah, VR. You won’t know when the secret society of angry PDS’ers have gotten their money together and then...then...then you’ll see. Ooooohhhh.


69 posted on 06/22/2011 11:28:36 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: frposty

Advice...jump.


70 posted on 06/22/2011 11:29:55 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: McGruff; All
Has Michele answered the Romneycare question yet? If not, why?

Yes, she has long ago and recently criticized Romenycare. See the end of this list.

Why Bachmann is one of US and no RINO

Bachmann is a member of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, a supporter of the Tea Party movement and a founder of the House Tea Party Caucus.

Bachmann was born Michele Marie Amble in Waterloo, Iowa, "into a family of Norwegian Lutheran Democrats"

She married Marcus Bachmann in 1978.They have five children (Lucas, Harrison, Elisa, Caroline, and Sophia), and have also provided foster care for 23 other children.

Bachmann and her husband own a Christian counseling practice in Stillwater, Minnesota.

Bachmann also has an ownership stake in a family farm located in Waumandee, Wisconsin. Since the death of her father-in-law in 2009, the farm and its buildings have been rented out to a neighboring farmer who maintains a dairy herd on the farm.

Bachmann grew up in a Democratic family, but she says she became a Republican during her senior year at Winona State. She told the Minneapolis Star Tribune that she was reading Gore Vidal's 1973 novel, Burr: "He was kind of mocking the Founding Fathers and I just thought, I just remember reading the book, putting it in my lap, looking out the window and thinking, 'You know what? I don't think I am a Democrat. I must be a Republican.'"

While she was still a Democrat, Bachmann and her then-fiancé Marcus were inspired to join the pro-life movement by Francis Schaeffer's 1976 Christian documentary film, How Should We Then Live?. They frequently prayed outside of clinics and served as sidewalk counselors. Bachmann was a supporter of Jimmy Carter in 1976 and she and her husband worked on his campaign. During Carter's presidency, Bachmann became disappointed with his liberal approach to public policy, support for legalized abortion and economic decisions she held responsible for increased gas prices. In the 1980 presidential election, she voted for Ronald Reagan and worked for his campaign.

In 1993, Bachmann and other parents started a K-12 charter school in Stillwater, and she began speaking against a state-mandated set of educational standards, which propelled her into the world of politics.

In 2000, Bachmann defeated 18-year incumbent Gary Laidig to secure the GOP endorsement as State Senator for Minnesota District 56. She then defeated Ted Thompson of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party (DFL) and Lyno Sullivan of the Minnesota Independence Party in the General Election. In 2002, after redistricting, Bachmann defeated a fellow incumbent State Senator Jane Krentz of the DFL for the newly drawn District 52.

On November 20, 2003, Bachmann and Representative Mary Liz Holberg proposed a constitutional amendment that would bar the state from legally recognizing same-sex marriage. In 2004, Bachmann and a coalition of religious leaders announced plans for a "Minnesota for Marriage" rally. Bachmann’s effort to place a marriage amendment on a referendum ballot in 2004 ultimately failed. She resurrected her proposal in March 2005 but it stalled indefinitely in a senate committee that April.

110th Congress

Voted for the surge

Joined Congressional delegation to the middle east

Opposition to higher education finance bill: Bachmann said her opposition was because "it fails students and taxpayers with gimmicks, hidden costs and poorly targeted aid. It contains no serious reform of existing programs, and it favors the costly, government-run direct lending program over nonprofit and commercial lenders. The bill passed the House and was signed by President Bush

Light bulbs: Bachmann introduced the Light Bulb Freedom of Choice Act, which would require a GAO report show that a change to fluorescent bulbs (CFLs) would have "clear economic, health and environmental benefits" prior to enforcement of lighting efficiency regulations that effectively ban conventional light bulbs. Bachman argued, "Each light bulb contains between 3-6 milligrams of mercury. There's a question about how that mercury will fill up our landfills, and also if you break one in your home, you'll have mercury that instantaneously vaporizes in your home.

Class action lawsuits: On June 3, 2008, President George W. Bush signed the Credit and Debit Card Receipt Clarification Act (H.R. 4008) into law. The bipartisan bill, which Bachmann coauthored with Congressman Tim Mahoney (D-FL), removes statutory damages to end "frivolous lawsuits" aimed at businesses

Domestic oil and gas production: During the summer of 2008, as national gasoline prices rose to over $4 a gallon, Bachmann became a leading Congressional advocate for increased domestic oil and natural gas exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) and the Outer Continental Shelf. She joined 10 other House Republicans and members of the media on a Congressional Energy Tour to the National Renewable Energy Laboratory in Golden, Colorado, and to Alaska.

Global warming: Bachmann has charged that global warming is a hoax and has been a vocal skeptic of global warming.

Opposition to the bailout: Bachmann opposed both versions of the Wall Street bailout bill for America’s financial sector.

On anti-Americanism: She criticized Barack Obama for his association with Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, saying "…usually we associate with people who have similar ideas to us, and it seems that it calls into question what Barack Obama's true beliefs, and values, and thoughts are...I am very concerned that he [Barack Obama] may have anti-American views."

111th Congress

Global currency: On March 26, 2009, following comments by China proposing adoption of a global reserve currency, Bachmann introduced a resolution calling for a constitutional amendment to bar the dollar from being replaced by a foreign currency.

2010 Census: In a June 17, 2009, interview with The Washington Times, Bachmann expressed concern that the questions on the 2010 United States Census had become "very intricate, very personal" and that ACORN, a community organizing group that had come under fire the previous year, might be part of the Census Bureau's door-to-door information collection efforts.

"Armed and dangerous" quote: Regarding Obama's proposed cap and trade tax policy to limit greenhouse gas emissions. Bachmann said she wanted Minnesotans "armed and dangerous on this issue of the energy tax because we need to fight back." Bachmann's office quickly clarified that she was speaking metaphorically, meaning "armed with knowledge." However, according to the Star Tribune, her quote went viral across the Internet.

AmeriCorps: In 2009, Bachmann became a critic of what she characterized as proposals for mandatory public service.

Health care: Bachmann denounced the government-run health insurance public option, calling it a "government takeover of health care" that would "squeeze out private health insurance".Bachmann contributed to the "death panel" controversy when she read from a July 24 article written by Betsy McCaughey from the floor of the House.

Critic of President Obama's Asian trip

112th Congress

Leadership run: After the 2010 elections and the announcement from Rep. Mike Pence that he was stepping away from his leadership position in the House, Bachmann announced on her Facebook page her intention to seek the position of House Republican Conference Chair. As Bachmann is the founder of the House's Tea Party Caucus, her announcement caused some to see the leadership election as "an early test of how GOP leaders will treat the antiestablishment movement's winners". Many among the House's Republican leadership, including Eric Cantor and the retiring Mike Pence, were quick to endorse Rep. Jeb Hensarling for the position;

Committee assignment: Bachmann was selected by House Speaker John Boehner for a position "on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, giving her a new role as overseer of the CIA, the National Security Agency and the rest of the U.S. intelligence community."Bachmann, who had "not served on any committee that deals with foreign policy issues" requested the position, "a move that has fueled speculation that she may be planning to carry the Tea Party banner into the GOP presidential primaries."

Repeal of Dodd-Frank reform: Soon after being sworn in to her third term Bachmann introduced legislation to repeal the Dodd-Frank financial reform law. She stated "I'm pleased to offer a full repeal of the job-killing Dodd-Frank financial regulatory bill. Dodd-Frank grossly expanded the federal government beyond its jurisdictional boundaries. It gave Washington bureaucrats the power to interpret and enforce the legislation with little oversight. Real financial regulatory reform must deal with these lenders who were a leading cause of our economic recession. True reform must also end the bailout mind-set that was perpetuated by the last Congress."

Repeal of Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act: Bachmann has characterized the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act as "ObamaCare", and has continually called for its repeal.She recalled to reporters that she called for debate to repeal the act "the morning after Obamacare passed". Joining with Rep. Steve King she introduced "the Bachmann-King repeal of health care bill" stating that it "is our intent in our heart to make sure that Obamacare is completely repealed."

On March 4, 2011 Bachmann (who was one of the six House Republicans to vote against the continuing resolution) expressed her unhappines with the move that gave a two-week reprieve to the fear of government shutdown, stating "I am vowing to vote 'no' on future Continuing Resolutions to fund the government unless there is specific language included to defund Obamacare and rescind the funding that has already been appropriated. Defunding Obamacare, along with defunding Planned Parenthood, must be non-negotiable planks in our budget negotiations."

In an appearance on Meet the Press on March 6, 2011 and during a March 7, 2011 interview with Sean Hannity, Bachmann declared that the Obama administration and the Congressional Democrats had hidden $105 billion in spending in the overhaul of the American Health Care System.

When asked during the Meet the Press interview if she would take back her previous comments that Obama held "anti-American views" and was running a "gangster government", Bachmann backed her statements, saying "I do believe that actions that have been taken by this White House -- I don't take back my statements on gangster government. I think that there have been actions taken by the government that are corrupt...I said I have very serious concerns about the president's views, and I think the president's actions in the last two years speak for themselves."

On Romneycare: Friday 6-17-11 The Hill Blog, Last Friday she said this (The Hill Blog).

-"Whether it's on the state level or the federal level, I think it's unconstitutional to require anybody to purchase health insurance as a condition of citizenship," Bachmann said, alluding to the Massachusetts law.

Romneycare

ObamaCareRomneyCareRyanBudget

71 posted on 06/22/2011 11:32:03 AM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: ReneeLynn

;)

72 posted on 06/22/2011 11:37:11 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: MestaMachine

I felt the same way. In my mind, Palin declared her candidacy April 16, 2011.


73 posted on 06/22/2011 11:40:17 AM PDT by definitelynotaliberal (There is no native criminal class except Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Dr. Sivana; Brices Crossroads

re: 1980 2012
Reagan Palin
Crane Bachmann
G.H.W.Bush Romney
Baker Pawlenty
Anderson Huntsman
Connolly Perry
Cain Ben Fernandez
Paul Harold Stassen

Excellent historical analogy list. Ben Fernandez was the only one I didn’t remember. The problem is the level of historical knowledge on this board is so abysmal that this will be meaningless to most... /g


74 posted on 06/22/2011 11:41:06 AM PDT by tarheelswamprat
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

Hehehehehee. Careful though. He’s up on the mountain watching you. It’s a nice shack for a shack and one day we shall all live in them...if Palin doesn’t get in. Mwahahahaha.


75 posted on 06/22/2011 11:48:13 AM PDT by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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To: tarheelswamprat
From Wiki

"The candidacy of Fernandez was recently publicized again in light of comments from Governor of New Mexico Bill Richardson, a candidate in the 2008 presidential election, who claimed that he was the first ever Hispanic candidate. A reporter for the Albuquerque Journal discovered Fernandez's failed campaigns in 1980 and 1984, proving Richardson's comments to be a mistake. (Richardson campaign officials said that they were looking only at previous Democratic Party candidates"

ROFL

76 posted on 06/22/2011 11:48:49 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: Brices Crossroads

Is this a response to that “Is Sarah Palin Michele Bachmann’s Goldwater” idiocy? If so, thanks!!


77 posted on 06/22/2011 11:51:10 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet ("We didn't lose Vietnam. We quit Vietnam." ~Gen. Al Haig)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

78 posted on 06/22/2011 11:52:50 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Sarah Palin is the mirror by which evil reflects back upon itself until consumed out of existence)
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To: ReneeLynn
Careful though. He’s up on the mountain watching you.

Heh. Don't I know it. He's already made his monomaniacal, Annie Wilkes-ish obsession with me more than apparent, believe me.

It'd almost be kinda flattering, if it weren't so... y'know... psychotic. ;)

79 posted on 06/22/2011 11:57:11 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Brices Crossroads
Sarah Palin will declare, in her own good time. Seems to me MB said something to the effect that"I won't declare until I'm sure Sarah won't", which, when she declared at the debate completely surprised me and several others.

When SP does declare, she will instantly be the 800# gorilla (or is that grizzly) in the room, and MB, if she values her position and wishes any advancement in her future, should immediately withdraw from the race, and claim that she was acting as a John the Baptist for SP.

If she uses her head and does this, she may be the next Speaker, or at least a valuable member of the Palin administration. Otherwise she is toast.

If she does not, there is a strong likelihood that conservatism within the Republican party is finished, and with that so is the party, and if that happens, we get four more years of Obama, complete with a Dem. majority in the Senate, and possibly in the house as well....at best a weak majority there.

Wile another political party might be a very good idea, not yet...patience...wait and plan for the future.

Due to these circumstanced, it isn't too far fetched to see why the left seems to be somewhat confident.

80 posted on 06/22/2011 12:02:56 PM PDT by fantail 1952 (Truth is a virus!)
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