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God Love You, God Bless You, and Good-Bye. (Statement from Father Corapi: leaving the priesthood)
The Black Sheep Dog (Father John Corapi's Blog) ^ | 6/17/2011 | Father (?) John Corapi

Posted on 06/17/2011 6:11:52 PM PDT by Yossarian

God Love You, God Bless You, and Good-Bye.

Jun 17

Posted by The Black SheepDog

This Sunday, June 19, 2011, is both Trinity Sunday on the Catholic liturgical calendar and Fathers’ Day on the secular calendar. It is a day I’ll never forget, and sadly so. It is the twentieth anniversary of my ordination to the priesthood in the Catholic Church. For twenty years I was called “father.” I am very thankful for those twenty years. I could have easily died any number of times, any number of ways in my life before that, so I consider it all a bonus, an undeserved bonus. To all of you that have communicated support, ordination anniversary congratulations, and other kind sentiments, I am greatly thankful, and I do not take that for granted.

All things change, only God stays the same, so I have to tell you about a major change in my life. I am not going to be involved in public ministry as a priest any longer. There are certain persons in authority in the Church that want me gone, and I shall be gone. I have been guilty of many things in the course of my life, and could easily and justifiably be considered unfit to engage in public ministry as a priest. The present complaint that you have heard about is, as far as I know, from the one person that I can honestly say I did more to help and support than any human being in my entire life. I forgive her and hope only good things for her. I am not going to get into a back and forth or argument with the Church or anyone else about this matter.

Suffice it to say that I love the Catholic Church and accept what has transpired. Unfortunately, the process used is inherently and fatally flawed, but the bishops have the power, apparently, to operate anyway they see fit. I cannot give a lengthy explanation of what has transpired, but I can tell you that the most likely outcome is that they leave me suspended indefinitely and just let me fade away. They can’t prove I’m guilty of the things alleged because I’m not, and they can’t prove I’m innocent because that is simply illogical and impossible. All civilized societies know that. Certain leaders in the Catholic Church apparently do not.

I accept moving on, but I am not ready to be altogether extinguished just yet. In the final analysis I have only one of only two viable choices: 1. I can quietly lie down and die, or 2. I can go on in ways that I am able to go on.

I did not start this process, the Bishop of Corpus Christi, Texas ordered my superiors, against their will and better judgment, to do it. He in fact threatened to release a reprehensible and libelous letter to all of the bishops if they did not suspend me. He has a perfect right to do so, and I defend that right. Bishops aren’t bound by civil laws and procedures in internal Church matters. I agree with that, and would defend to the death the Church’s right to proceed as they see fit. He is the bishop and he has the right to govern as he sees fit. It isn’t an easy task. Many forces besiege him, including pressure from other bishops.

My canon lawyer and my civil lawyers have concluded that I cannot receive a fair and just hearing under the Church’s present process. The Church will conclude that I am not cooperating with the process because I refuse to give up all of my civil and human rights in order to hold harmless anyone who chooses to say defamatory and actionable things against me with no downside to them. The case may be on hold indefinitely, but my life cannot be. Some of the things that might surprise you about the way some of the bishops treat accused priests are as follows:

1. The identity of the accuser is not revealed. You can guess, but you don’t actually know. Nor are the exact allegations made known to you. Hence, you have an interesting situation of having to respond to an unknown accuser making unknown accusations (unknown to the accused and his counsel).

2. The persons chosen to investigate the allegations normally have no qualifications to do so. They certainly didn’t graduate from the FBI academy, nor do they have any other background to qualify them to interrogate or otherwise interview witnesses.

3. There are no set rules of evidence or norms of procedure.

4. You are for all practical purposes assumed guilty until you can prove you are innocent. This one is truly baffling. No civilized society operates that way. If you are accused of something you are considered innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

5. The accused and his counsel have no right to obtain and review any of the evidence against him.

6. The accused and his counsel are not provided the names of witnesses, nor are they permitted to cross-examine them.

7. There is a general unwillingness or outright refusal by certain of the bishops to abide by applicable statutes of limitations, both in canon and civil law. There are good reasons for these statutes. Time has a way of clouding memories and distorting perceptions.

By the way, Canon Law does not dictate this. They choose to selectively ignore or violate both Canon Law and Civil Law, as they deem appropriate and or expeditious. Once again, they apparently have the discretionary power to do this, and if that’s the way it is I have to accept that as reality.

The bottom line is that the only way a just outcome is likely, in my view and that of my counsel, both civil and canon lawyers, is by accident, rather than as a result of the process.

I will not try to fight this irrational and unjust situation for the simple reason that I don’t want to be placed in an adversarial posture against the Church. For 20 years I did my best to guard and feed the sheep. Now, based on a totally unsubstantiated, undocumented allegation from a demonstrably troubled person I was thrown out like yesterday’s garbage. I accept that. Perhaps I deserve that.

I can’t do what I can’t do. I can only do what I can do. I shall continue, black sheep that I am, to speak; and sheep dog that I am, to guard the sheep—this time around not just in the Church, but also in the entire world. I am, indeed, not ready to be extinguished. Under the name “The Black Sheep Dog,” I shall be with you through radio broadcasts and writing. My autobiography, “The Black Sheep Dog,” is almost ready for publication. My topics will be broader than in the past, and my audience likewise is apt to be broader. I’ll do what I can under the circumstances.

Please don’t bother the bishop or complain because it will do no good and it wastes valuable time and energy, both his and yours.

I hope you stay with us and follow us into our new domain and name of “The Black Sheep Dog.” Through writing and broadcasting we hope to continue to dispense truth and hope to a world so much in need of it. For those of you who choose to part company and go away from us, we wish you well and thank you for your many kindnesses over the years. We’ll miss you in our usual meeting places, but assure you that there will be new places for us to meet, just like in “the good old days,” so for now,

God bless you, God love you, and goodbye.

John Corapi (once called “father,” now “The Black Sheep Dog”)


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To: ArchAngel1983
Go back to the religious section and convince each other that you can be as depraved as you want to be in life, but at the moment of death if your 'soul is in the right place' then you can reap the rewards of life ever lasting in heaven.

Consider Matthew 20:1-15 or the thief on the cross...

Cheers!

61 posted on 06/17/2011 9:59:49 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Antoninus
"You know, there is a parable in which Our Lord addresses your objection directly."

Wanna play dueling Bible verses?

Bipolar at best? Maybe, but I think I'm more pissed off than anything else!

Oh BTW, I don't hate the church, just the sanctimonious jerks that infest it.

62 posted on 06/17/2011 10:02:42 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Still Think You're Free?)
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To: terycarl

“...if he had worked for G.M. would you forever drive a Ford?”

Cut the man some slack. If this happened to you, what would you do and how would you react? And if the transgressor was the local public face of G.M., it would be indeed to be expected that Ford’s business would skyrocket with the G.M. rep’s transgressions in the community. In this case it was far worse, as you can imagine.

The responsibilities of a priest are far greater, requiring not just an employment contract, but a vow to God, and there’s no higher judge. Even without a scandal, far from the case here, priests renouncing their vows were not to live within a specified radius of their former parishes, something like 50 miles, if memory serves.

Forgiveness can’t be demanded, especially third-hand. And the one category of people that can’t be humanly forgiven are the unrepentant, as far as I know. I got the impression that this former priest and ex-wife weren’t repentant.


63 posted on 06/17/2011 10:10:51 PM PDT by OldNewYork
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To: grey_whiskers
"Consider Matthew 20:1-15 or the thief on the cross..."

I've considered many things over the course of my life grey whiskers and after being shot at, missiled at, IED at, laughed at, and spat at, let me tell you what I personally think about mankind. We're simply not worth it. It kind of makes this whole argument rather mute, doesn't it?

64 posted on 06/17/2011 10:24:08 PM PDT by ArchAngel1983 (Arch Angel- on guard / Still Think You're Free?)
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To: Yossarian; nickcarraway; NYer; ELS; Pyro7480; livius; ArrogantBustard; Catholicguy; RobbyS; ...

In my judgment, Father Corapi is getting the short end of the stick here.

Anyone else?


65 posted on 06/17/2011 10:26:15 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Yossarian
The accused and his counsel have no right to obtain and review any of the evidence against him.

True. Fr. Corapi does not have the ability to discover the names of the possible victim and the possible offense. Thus, Fr. Corapi's ability to make good, legal choices is suspended. And his ordination is suspended. A real cross as carried by Padre Pio, St. John of the Cross, St. John Berchman and St. Joan of Arc. Some Catholics are tested by the Lord's creation and by His Church.

Yes, Corapi is getting the 'short end of the stick' and the shaft. He'll bounce back and be stronger.
66 posted on 06/17/2011 10:29:34 PM PDT by Falconspeed ("Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." Robert Louis Stevenson (1850-94))
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To: Yossarian
Diocese of Corpus Christi, Texas
67 posted on 06/17/2011 10:33:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Yossarian
Wow, this is truly sad. Don't know much about the man but from what I've read on this thread he sounds like a good, kind, compassionate Priest. Even so far as willing to blindly forgive his accusers. That there is a stand-up man of faith.

At the end of the day, the tragedy is going to be that the Catholic Church is going to lose what is by all accounts a fine, decent man and wonderful Priest. That the Church would so willingly and blindly throw this good man out knowing there's a terrible shortage of good Priests and Church Leadership just makes this worse.

The Church has known full well for years now that there are fewer men entering the Priesthood than there are leaving it. One would think they'd do their level best to keep the good ones rather than showing them the door.

68 posted on 06/17/2011 10:36:53 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: richardtavor

I am sorry that happened to you. That is a very hurtful incident to overcome.

But I pray that the bitterness your wife planted within your heart leave you and be replaced with Jesus’ love and mercy.

I was praying recently and heard this: Don’t take the dark offenses of others and use it against yourself by holding it tight inside (resentment and bitterness). Surrender the hurt over to Jesus and let Him remove it from you. I pray you will be released from the evil that was committed against you and that you walk free, Richard.


69 posted on 06/17/2011 10:37:05 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: tiki

Our priest put in an etched glass door on the Confessional.


70 posted on 06/17/2011 10:38:25 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: richardtavor
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71 posted on 06/17/2011 10:41:18 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Antoninus

A shame but something isd amiss. He would not be the only fine preacher who fell from grace. Saw him in San Antonio only last August.
A strange reaction, can’t think of a similar case.


72 posted on 06/17/2011 11:02:21 PM PDT by RobbyS (Pray with the suffering souls.)
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To: usconservative

The liberals will stop at nothing. It took them a couple of decades but they got Fr Corapi. God help us all.


73 posted on 06/18/2011 12:09:07 AM PDT by bronxville (Sarah will be the first American female president.)
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To: ArchAngel1983

You and I will never know what was in Ted Kennedy’s heart or in the heart of the priests who heard his confessions.

All we know are three things:

1. The priest and the man are human.

2. God is perfect, and loves us all, even though we are not perfect.

3. God sacrificed His only Son to wipe away all sins.
Ted Kennedy’s sin.
Your sin.
My sin.
All sin.

Jesus’ sacrifice was perfect. There is no sin it cannot wipe away if the sinner is contrite.

It is wrong of us to say that because so-and-so wasn’t kicked out, you don’t have to return to the Church. God didn’t say “All sin except for Ted Kennedy’s”. God is bigger than that. His sacrifice was eternal and unending. He has room for all of us.

I will pray for you to have a change of heart. The whole Church would love to welcome you back. God wants nothing more than to see you accept His Son’s perfect sacrifice.

Prayers for you!


74 posted on 06/18/2011 12:41:14 AM PDT by mountainbunny
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To: Yossarian
I accept moving on, but I am not ready to be altogether extinguished just yet. In the final analysis I have only one of only two viable choices: 1. I can quietly lie down and die, or 2. I can go on in ways that I am able to go on.

What is that phrase: You must die to yourself and then come follow Jesus?

I never liked Corapi. He talked good, but always had a smirk on his face that disturbed me.

As for his complaints: Well, if they aren't following the strict canon law regulations, as he claims, he can appeal to the Vatican.

But this might take months or years, and I guess he thinks he's too important to the world to bother to go through a full examination.

For those of you who are upset about all this, I remind you what Paul said when some of his followers were fighting with those who followed another preacher: Are you following Paul or Jesus? Did Paul (or Corapi) die to save you from your sins?

75 posted on 06/18/2011 1:31:44 AM PDT by LadyDoc (liberals only love politically correct poor people)
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To: Yossarian

“Ruffatto alleges that the priest’s accuser is a former employee who, after losing her job with this office, physically assaulted her and another employee, and promised to “destroy” Father Corapi.”

Read more: http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-john-corapi-placed-on-administrative-leave/#ixzz1PcPUANeh


76 posted on 06/18/2011 2:46:42 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Yossarian

Mebbe I’m just iggernunt, but I didn’t see here where he said he’s leaving the priesthood. He’s suspended with an investigation to come.

BTW, did you ever find the Snowdens of yesteryear?


77 posted on 06/18/2011 3:00:30 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: mlizzy
Yep! Same thing happened with Euteneuer's victims, but he was guilty.

Fr. Euteneuer of Priests for life, are you sure you have the right name?

78 posted on 06/18/2011 4:13:46 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: mlizzy

Never mind found it.
All I can say is WOW


79 posted on 06/18/2011 4:19:26 AM PDT by verga (I am not an apologist, I just play one on Television)
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To: ArchAngel1983

You wrote:

“let me tell you what I personally think about mankind. We’re simply not worth it.”

Know any children? Look in their eyes and tell them they’re not worth it. If you’re so bitter that you could actually do it, then you need mental help. If you blather on like you do, then you need to stop being such a self-absorbed grandstander.


80 posted on 06/18/2011 4:47:12 AM PDT by vladimir998 (When anti-Catholics can't debate they just make stuff up.)
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