You're forged! Trump declares Obama's birth certificate fake

World Net Daily ^ | May 25, 2011 | WND

[conservativegramma]

Billionaire businessman Donald Trump, who staged a weeks-long public campaign questioning Barack Obama's eligibility to be president during March and April – and rose to the top of the pool of potential candidates for the 2012 GOP nomination then as a result – says he believes the "birth certificate" released by the White House is forged.... Trump said his period of almost-complete silence on the issue following the release by the White House on April 27 of the image of a "Certificate of Live Birth" from the state of Hawaii was not because he was satisfied with the document....

During their conversation, Trump told Corsi his own computer expert told him at the release that it was a computer-generated document.

[conservativegramma]

A whole lot more than mere college kids have debunked the lies put out by the anti-birthers. I would point you to the links by other experts with years of experience in photoshop and computer grahics, but you wouldn’t care so why bother?

In any case you are more than welcome to provide a link to a forensics expert or even a team of experts who have personally examined the ORIGINAL 1961 PAPER documents and verified their accuracy.

Until you do that, all we have is one group of experts calling the other group ‘college kids’ throwing spitwads at one another.

I’ll wait expectantly for your link.

[Brown Deer]

I can’t comment on your illegible post.

It looks like you just made some ignorant comments about the post.

[mojitojoe]

Either the donald is playing for publicity and is only a parrot of what he can worm out of Corsi, or the donald is working for someone else to get this noise level blasting the media to set the stage for yet another faux ‘revelation’.
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I agree

[Brown Deer]

[GunRunner]

I would point you to the links by other experts with years of experience in photoshop and computer grahics, but you wouldn’t care so why bother?

All of the ones I've seen are analyzing the green background certified copy. None of their claims carry over to the original scan. Show me something that isn't a college kid in his dorm room acting like an expert and I'll take a look, but you won't find anything.

Tell me, why does the green background have white artifacts from the text? This is exactly what it looks like when layers are extracted from a scan in an optimized PDF.

Tell me in your own words. I don't want to hear from your googled internet experts. I've dealt with enough of them from when I was barraged with Trutherism. I've seen enough armchair explosive experts who 'proved' that the twin towers were blown up with thermate to know them when I see them.

I want to hear from you. Why are the white marks there instead of a static green background and why do none of the graphical quirks show up on the original scan that I showed you?

In your own words please.

[G. Odoreida]

Obama won the election. He wields the full power of the State, with the consent of the courts, the congress and the opposition party. He'll continue to do so, unless he loses the next election, or at the end of his next term. He doesn't care about the law, and he has convinced a large majority of people that he is more or less qualified to be in office. For every reasonable person you find, there's two more that either don't care or that find the idea of disqualifying their sitting president on esoteric technical grounds to be distasteful and abhorrent.

Here is a post that completely gets it.

I think there are grounds to question Obama's eligibility for office. And I don't object to anyone investigating it.

But anyone who thinks that such an investigation is going to somehow result in Zero being perp-walked out of the WH is just not living in reality.

[stormer]

You may be correct. The checker at the store looked puzzled...

[GunRunner]

The way to act like a lemming is to believe someone is an 'expert' because they've made a YouTube video. Do you have any knowledge of the subject on your own?

You would make a great Truther. They all claim that they're experts because of stuff they've read on the web and they always get extremely personal and insulting when you disagree with them. You're demonstrated it quite nicely.

[BuckeyeTexan]

Damage control? Since when is posting the “Aw, geez” graphic considered a defense of Obama?

If he’s paying me to defend him, he should get his money back if that’s all I can come up with. /s

[little jeremiah]

Ah, the new talking point! “Birfers = Troofers”.

You’re right on cue.

[conservativegramma]

Nope not letting you change the direction of the conversation alinsky style.

I asked you for a link to that team of forensic experts who examined the ORIGINAL 1961 PAPER documents (as opposed to electronic images easily manipulated) declaring them authentic.

So provide the link or stop pinging me.

[conservativegramma]

Nope not letting you change the direction of the conversation alinsky style.

I asked you for a link to that team of forensic experts who examined the ORIGINAL 1961 PAPER documents (as opposed to electronic images easily manipulated) declaring them authentic.

So provide the link or stop pinging me.

[Brown Deer]

Try again. The bluish white document was scanned from the white house document with the green background.

[Brown Deer]

Try again. The bluish white document was scanned from the white house document with the green background.

[GunRunner]

I asked you for a link to that team of forensic experts who examined the ORIGINAL 1961 PAPER documents (as opposed to electronic images easily manipulated) declaring them authentic.

That's not my job.

You claimed that the certified copy with the green background is a forgery because it has layers.

That has been proven false. I was simply pointing that out for you.

[MHGinTN]

So, now we get the next phase of 'shut up the questioners of Barry bassturd's natality', insult them with the truther label. What's next?

You taunt of 'speak to me from your expertise' and 'not one expert has spoken only kids in dorms rooms pretending to be experts'. Are you aware that at the Ninth Circus just such an expert has filed evidentary documents challenging the piece of composite construction you now want us all to shut up and accept as a valid image of a valid LFBC? Some of you folks are a real piece of work. But that cureent insult, calling someone a truther for questioning the criminal-in-chief is a doozy. That's about as low and sewery as it gets at FR. Congratulations on your descent into the cesspool of insults.

[conservativegramma]

You claimed that the certified copy with the green background is a forgery because it has layers. That has been proven false. I was simply pointing that out for you.

That statement is false in and of itself. #1 There is no AUTHENTICATED certified copy of anything - its an electronic image. Try taking an electronic image of your BC down to the passport office and see where it gets you.

#2 I claim the BC is false for a number of different reasons, the LEAST of which is layering.

#3 The anti-birthers have proved NOTHING false, just misdirection and smoke screens, that's it. For every anti-birther 'expert' there is a birther 'expert' refuting and debunking the anti-birther 'experts. We've been going around and around since 4/27/11 on this.

Like I said before there is too much suspicion surrounding Obama and ANYTHING he claims (probably because he couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it) and the only thing that will now satisfy is forensic examination by a team of experts on the ORIGINAL PAPER documents from 1961 contained within the vault in HI.

Now if I were POTUS, and I had all the controversy surrounding my details of nativity, I would command the vault be opened, forensic examination by anyone and everyone, and I certainly would NEVER have released an electronic image! So why doeesn't and didn't Obama do that if he has nothing to hide? Why? And if so, where's the link? Can't find it?

[BuckeyeTexan]

National Review? Their biased analysis doesn’t count. Clearly, they’re just a bunch of shills for Obama. /s

[little jeremiah]

“Birfers = troofers” is obviously one of the new talking points recently handed out.

[GunRunner]

Are you aware that at the Ninth Circus just such an expert has filed evidentary documents challenging the piece of composite construction you now want us all to shut up and accept as a valid image of a valid LFBC?

Good luck with that. I'm that the "it's fake because it has layers" argument will see Obama frog marched out of the White House.