Is this what this whole debate comes down to?
I believe the latter is most conclusive.
Ping!
Then what cased it, boredom?
Don’t need a study to know that the offending priests were and are queer pedophiles: the majority of victims were ages 10-14.
Huh? "Celibate" is pretty simple to understand. The seminarians were adults when they were ordained, and certainly knew right from wrong.
Because vulnerable widows, hookers looking for absolution and other easy female targets in a churches daily function would be hard to find? This report just opens up the debate further into what types of real safeguards the Church is putting in place. They shot themselves in the foot with this totally implausible excuse. Gays and young boys is a real thing that occurs. To overlook this is silly.
The devil made them do it.
Seriously.
So, essentially, no one was to blame!
This is interesting, because, to my knowledge -- and I grew up during those years -- there was not an outbreak of boy-raping in the general population. Now, based on the conclusion of the study, that it was merely the tumultuous era in which this occurred, and no other factor other than "bad preparation for celibacy" would appear to have played a role, my brothers and I should have been quite unsafe working the farm with two celibate uncles every summer.
Yet, strangely, their non-preparation for celibacy seems to have been more effective. Perhaps we can commission a highbrow study ...
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I disagree with most of the premise. Obviously homosexuality was the cause. Sheesh. And there was a concerted "lavender mafia" in the Catholic Church. And some men and women are just not cut out for life long celibacy; it is a vocation that some have and some do not have. But celibacy is not the cause of men being attracted to boys; the cause of that is homosexual infiltration.
LOL - That’s a new one. Don’t blame it on the homos. Blame it on the hippies.
Extremely stupid study that tries to obscure the homosexuality—man/boy —connection. It is obvious by the numbers and obvious through history that homosexuality is rampant with pederasty. It is a learned behavior...most of the abusers were molested as boys by men. That is the only study that would prove anything.....that homosexuality is learned and the compulsion to perpetuate the behavior is because of childhood abuse that is so ingrained that the obsession for the reoccurrence of those sexual thrills are really too hard to repress. It is unnatural.
The Catholic Church needs to connect the dots....how many of those priests were molested by men when they were boys. I read where lots of them were victims when they were boys. Homosexuals want people to think it is a “natural” behavior that is “genetic”. Rubbish!!!!!! It is a learned behavior and homosexuals want to molest boys, as well as young men.
It is why boys in Afghanistan can’t wait to have their stable of boys to sodomize. It is learned...just like in Ancient Greece. Study Aristotle.....habituation.....it is not that hard to comprehend. It is a behavior and because it is sexual arousal brought up in childhood—it is ingrained and hard to fight. It is why NAMBLA’s motto is—if not by eight, then it is too late.
It is why the Cultural Marxist want sex ed in Kindergarten and elementary schools...to condition and brainwash children into thinking the unnatural is natural. Then the thought of homosexual acts will be considered icky by normally raised children and they won’t be willing to experiment in that lifestyle. It is all about making the unnatural natural.
The Christian worldview prevented homosexuality from being mainstreamed in Western Civilization after it got rid of the pagan worldview which was rampant with homosexuality and pederasty and all unnatural sexual acts and slavery and women as second class citizens or worse.
I doubt it.
Normal heterosexual adult males do not find 12 year old boys to be sexually attractive, no matter how accessible they are.
Do the Jay researchers presume that the offenders would have sexually assaulted any human being who was available? If the pederast priests had been given access only to 80 year old women, then -- ?
It would be helpful to know what percentage of pederasts are homosexual and vice-versa. I have been unable to find an agenda-free source for that information.
Ah, so it's poor training and education. After all, sin is a bit old-fashion these days.
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If priests had been caught dating adult women, wooing them with champagne (or to be realistic, bad white wine) and filet mignon, I might believe this scenario. But chasing little boys around the sacristy? Come on! We’re not that dumb!
I do not have to wonder why 'they' rehash old news with as always editorial spin. It is the same story over and over again with the homosexualists that promote homosexual sex normalcy and equivalency?
It as well is not lost on this reader that Breitbart joins in with the homosexualist gang and publishes this 'finding' of nothing that is touted as a significant finding of something.
Last I heard, celibacy, was not marrying and has nothing to do with sexual activity but rather marital state. I think the term they missed was 'chaste'
Finally, when a majority of the sexual abuse was male on male -NO study is needed to confirm it a homosexual problem.
The fact that this study could not confirm anything does not as a result deny anything either UNLIKE the headlines imply.
In these areas at this time the RC clergy were respected, admired, revered. It was a big deal to have the Pastor over to your house for Sunday dinner. You were defined by your parish.
Becoming a nun or a priest was a respected, honorable career choice and the clergy were woven into the fabric of the people.
After WW2 the great rush to the suburbs happened, diluting the homogeneous nature of these groups' environs. Now these Catholics lived with each other (nationality-mixing) but also lived among protestants, Jews and athiests.
The clergy no longer played the dominant role that they had earlier. As a result the career choice of the priesthood lost some of its appeal for straight men. Marriage and family looked far more fulfilling. It took into the sixties for this to start to play out.
The lessening of straight numbers into the priesthood left a void. the void was filled slowly but then aggressively by queers who were looking for a career that explained away their lack of a wife.
As more queers entered the priesthood they started to assume positions of power in the seminaries. They encouraged more queers to follow their path. Within a short time many seminaries became over-whelmingly queer and the idea of celibacy was thrown to the wind.
These seminaries became factories that churned out queer priests by the truckload and dumped them into unsuspecting parishes, many of which were now run by queer pastors.
These undisciplined scumbags ruined hundreds of lives and drove millions from the Church.