Posted on 05/17/2011 3:42:10 AM PDT by South40
A bill that would end the ban on military women fighting in combat has been introduced by Rep. Loretta Sanchez, D-Santa Ana.
“In actuality, this bill would officially recognize what is already happening on the battlefield – the fact that our military women are fighting in combat every day, all over the world,” Sanchez, the ranking female member on the House Armed Services Committee, said in a news release.
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Perhaps we need to get Ms. Sanchez out on an obstacle course so that she can show us how it’s done. My guess is that old hag won’t be able to make it over the first bar...
I’ve been on DOZENS of speed and forced marches where the men were FORCED to pick up the womens’ loads. On the five-mile speed march, the women dropped their gear less than 1/2 mile from the start and the rest of us picked up their rifles and slung their ruck between two of us. At the end, the women hurried to pick up their gear and then rant to the front of the line, sometimes crossing first.
To be fair, there were women soldiers who wanted nothing to do with this. Some were admin and some were nurses, who only wanted to serve and hand no delusions about being men. Then there where the types that wanted all the perks with none of the responsibility. That never worked out well.
There are certainly reasonable accomodations for women serving in support roles. Certainly, a nurse should not be subject to the same phyiscal standards of a grunt or gunner, and their service can be just as rewarding and appreciated.
Lead the way onto the battlefield, General Loretta Sanchez
a wise latina indeed
sarc
Where women are capable of direct enemy engagement, they already are assigned
And where women are not now assigned, is better they not be, due to physical limitations
Equality begins and ends where humans are or are not capable of carrying full combat gear plus a 150 pound comrade to safety and fighting as they do so
I agree. I’ve been on humps where we had to carry and drag male Marines to the finish line. I can only imagine what it must be like to be on a hump with women. At least the ones I’ve been on. I can’t see many women humping up Mt. Fuji in Japan, that’s for sure.
I also agree about women not being subject to the same physical standards or requirements of men. It’s just a ridiculous idea because overall, women are not as strong as men. It’s just a fact that you can’t get around. People like Congresswoman Sanchez will just have to accept that as an immutable law of nature. I’ve gotten over the fact that I can’t have a baby. She needs to move on as well...
I once read a quote, attributed to an anonymous Marine General (of course):
“Any system that seeks to judge both sexes by the same standard can only victimize one and shortchange the other.”
I like.
Knowing well the antics of Sanchez, in some way this is tied into illegals and U.S. citizenship.
I was lucky enough to have worn both combat arms (Armor) and combat support (MP) brass on my collar during my Army career and my perspective has been forged thusly. I would NEVER want a female serving in a tank crew. As for MP operations where there is significant interaction with host nation civilians, third country nationals, etc., female soldiers are invaluable.
“All societies are based on rules to protect pregnant women and young children. All else is surplusage, excrescence, adornment, luxury, or folly, which can — and must — be dumped in emergency to preserve this prime function. As racial survival is the only universal morality, no other basic is possible. Attempts to formulate a “perfect society” on any foundation other than “Women and children first!” is not only witless, it is automatically genocidal.” - R.A.Heinlein
“I’ve gotten over...”
Great observation.
So????
When was silliness ever an impediment to the latest hare-brained scheme from the radical left? Your comment could rightly be applied to almost everything they propose.
I was once ordered to let a female communications soldier ‘help out’ with the gun crew in a ‘worst case scenario’ demonstration.
a 105lb female lifting a 90lb artillery shell and maneuvering it into the breech?
Even for a man, it’s already a worst case and they’ve made it worser.
This is just more yammering about too many Combat Arms Officers being promoted to general. I guarantee you, make 60% of the generals female, and this argument goes away. They’re worried about rank, not combat capability.
Women already are in combat positions. There are only a few jobs they cannot be in but they are already in many others.
Women already are in combat positions. There are only a few jobs they cannot be in but they are already in many others.
I agree. When the backbone of the military stop enlisting, congress critters will no doubt follow the Roman path, and allow foreigners (including illegals) an easy path to citizenship via serving as soldiers.
On the 155 I would handle one of the over 200 pound spades entirely on my own, that freed up an extra man for digging the holes for the spade or some other function, this was invaluable for ‘quick fires’, digging holes, 93 pound rounds, removing and maneuvering a 13,000 pound gun for set up, women don’t belong anywhere near the artillery.
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