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Violent teen ingested unknown substance
HISTORIC CITY NEWS ^ | May 16, 2011 | swampsniper

Posted on 05/16/2011 1:03:20 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Historic City News has received word that, over the weekend, five teenage boys, between 15 and 17 years of age, were transported to Baptist South Hospital after exhibiting violent symptoms believed to have been caused from eating a substance ordered from the Republic of China.

A 17 year-old who lives on North Lake Cunningham Avenue, attacked his father and deputies when they attempted to subdue him. His parents told deputies and paramedics that his behavior was “out of control” after ingesting what may be some form of bath salts.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: bathsalt; drugs
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My understanding of this is that the kid was so far out of it he was almost impossible to restrain.
1 posted on 05/16/2011 1:03:27 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

From china?

Revelation 9: 13-16
The sixth angel sounded his trumpet, and I heard a voice coming from the four horns of the golden altar that is before God. It said to the sixth angel who had the trumpet, “Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates.” And the four angels who had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year were released to kill a third of mankind. The number of the mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand. I heard their number.


2 posted on 05/16/2011 1:08:34 PM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Ibogaine?

MDMA?

DMT?


3 posted on 05/16/2011 1:11:55 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
Historic City News has received word that, over the weekend, five teenage boys, between 15 and 17 years of age, were transported to Baptist South Hospital after exhibiting violent symptoms believed to have been caused from eating a substance ordered from the Republic of China.

This bad writing on several levels. we'll ignore that 15 through 17 year olds are, in fact, ordinarily teenagers. The first paragraph implies all of the boys had violent symptoms. Later, the same article states only one was violent, with the others only agitated. In any event, the boy cited in the headline did not have "violent symptoms" but exhibited violent behavior as a result of the drug's symptoms.

The drugs are described as coming from the "Republic of China," which is typically referred to as Taiwan these days. Later, the article states that the drugs came from China, which could refer to Red China (P.R.C.) or Taiwan (R.O.C.).
4 posted on 05/16/2011 1:15:49 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: WayneS

2C-I or 2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine is a psychedelic drug and phenethylamine of the 2C family.[1] The drug is used recreationally as a stimulant, empathogen-entactogen and as an entheogen, but no official medical or industrial uses have been reported yet.[citation needed] 2C-I is commonly sold in its hydrochloride salt form which is a fluffy, sparkling white powder, which has also been pressed into tablet form.

But from China who knows what it was cut with. Plus, it’s illegal in many drug-friendly places in Europe.


5 posted on 05/16/2011 1:16:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Great. I’m going to assume we’ll see more of this before it runs its course.


6 posted on 05/16/2011 1:17:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Is it illegal here?


7 posted on 05/16/2011 1:20:52 PM PDT by WayneS (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
after ingesting what may be some form of bath salts.

The author seems to be implying that the drug in question normally is used for bathing, rather than "bath salts" just being a code name for the drug to try to avoid prosecution. It would be like saying that teenagers who were confused, giggling and hungry had smoked some form of grass, implying that it might be fescue or zoysia grass.

8 posted on 05/16/2011 1:23:55 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: WayneS
2C-I (2,5-dimethoxy-4-iodophenethylamine) is an Unscheduled Research Chemical, that is not approved for human consumption, in the United States. It is a gray area in the law because it may be illegal and covered under the analog act.

Good question.

9 posted on 05/16/2011 1:24:22 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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10 posted on 05/16/2011 1:25:48 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: KarlInOhio

Evidently it is some form of “bath salts”.


11 posted on 05/16/2011 1:31:20 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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I had a friend that reached that state just using old fashioned American LSD and most of a fifth of Vodka, it took 6 cops to subdue him.


12 posted on 05/16/2011 1:33:35 PM PDT by ansel12 ( JIM DEMINT "I believe [Palins] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan")
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

This is the second “bath salts” story in a week where the person was either out of control or unconscious. Whiskey Tango?

Colonel, USAFR


13 posted on 05/16/2011 1:40:29 PM PDT by jagusafr ("We hold these truths to be self-evident...")
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To: RobRoy

Bath salts to angels in .2 seconds.

There’s acceleration for you. Bugatti??


14 posted on 05/16/2011 2:04:52 PM PDT by Hardraade (I want gigaton warheads now!!)
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To: ansel12; SWAMPSNIPER
I grew up in the 60s and while I drank (like any good NYC teen), I never used drugs simply because I have never liked that "out of control, near-death" feeling, which is apparently popular among many folks. But I had friends who did, and I could never understand why they were risking life and consciousness and IQ. I had one really brilliant friend who blew her brains out by smoking so much dope she could not even walk up a set of stairs without gasping...when she was a teenager. And if it was bad for her lungs, it was a lot worse for her mind, and she really wasn't the same at the end of high school.

I knew people in CA who used horse tranquilizers (called PCP, I believe) and they couldn't be restrained. They are paranoid, scared and have the strength that comes from massive amounts of adrenaline, the thing that enables 100 lb women to lift cars off of their trapped husband or child.

My big question is why you would voluntarily want to do this to yourself? I didn't understand it in the 60s and I don't understand it now.

BTW, I drink and am not puritanical, and I realize anyone can drink too much and that a handful do so regularly. However, alcohol is pretty moderate unless abused. These people are using a drug that is NEVER moderate and which exists only to provide the experience of psychosis. For me, this is very hard to understand.

15 posted on 05/16/2011 2:06:05 PM PDT by livius
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ingesting what may be some form of bath salts.

The danger of ingesting Bath Salts has been in the news for several months now so it doesn't really matter where it comes from.........

16 posted on 05/16/2011 2:10:30 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's a beautiful day and I'm glad I can see it in color.......)
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Where this occurred is about 1 mile from my house. My friend lives on North Lake Cunningham. It is right next to a huge elementary school.

Unbelievable. I wonder what in the world it is? And good grief if a bunch of idiot teenagers get their hands on it...


17 posted on 05/16/2011 2:15:01 PM PDT by dinodino (MRS. Dinodino)
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To: Hot Tabasco

Darwins way of saying “Thanks for the memories and wish you were here”. They are not totally useless, they can still be used as bad examples.


18 posted on 05/16/2011 2:22:16 PM PDT by bdfromlv (Leavenworth hard time)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
It's just another side-effect of the misdirected and impossible war on drugs.

The more restrictions government places on known, studied and relatively safe drugs, the more people will experiment with unknown and dangerous new drugs.

There are countless known plants, molds and fungi with psychoactive properties. Most are legal and grow uncontrollably in the wild. There are probably even more that have not been discovered. Many market them as spice blends or incense and sell by word of mouth. They are always far more dangerous and addictive than whatever illegal drug they intend to replace.

That's just natural chemicals. When you add modified natural compounds and purely synthetic drugs to the mix, the possibilities become infinite. People will hurt themselves with these unknown chemicals far worse than with pure cannabis, cocaine, LSD, MDMA, etc.

The war on drugs can never be won this way. The war should be on the reasons people want intoxicants in the first place. The only way they can continue fighting this war is by having a list of “approved” plants, chemicals and objects. Anything not on the list will be prohibited. Is that what you want the USA to look like?

19 posted on 05/16/2011 2:23:35 PM PDT by varyouga ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: livius

Having a reasonable amount of experience with intoxicants, I can tell you that “out-of-control” and “near-death” are totally not descriptors of any of my experiences.

Also, I can tell you that alcohol is significantly more debilitating and powerful an intoxicant than its generally given credit for - for example, it’s the only substance I’ve ever encountered which has caused me to ‘black-out’. Something that happened once, in my first year of college, thank you very much El Jimador brand Tequila.

Also, psychosis is not an apt descriptor for the experience of narcotics, and there are a number of reasons people will decide to ingest them. Yes, a significant number of these reasons are self-destructive or negative, but I am confident in saying that a majority of narcotics users do so responsibly and without causing significant harm to themselves or others.


20 posted on 05/16/2011 2:55:16 PM PDT by Behemothpanzer (You are entitled to your own opinion. You are not entitled to your own facts.)
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