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GOP Strategists Fear Fallout From Obama Birth Record
Roll Call ^ | April 28, 2011, 12:01 a.m. | David M. Drucker

Posted on 04/29/2011 11:12:55 AM PDT by DaveyB

The question of whether President Barack Obama was born on U.S. soil will have zero impact on the 2012 campaign but could significantly damage Republicans’ prospects for retaking the White House if it lingers. That was the consensus analysis of more than a dozen experienced GOP political strategists, consultants and operatives who were interviewed Wednesday within an hour of Obama going on national television to publicly release the long-form version of his birth certificate...

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...But they worry that any attention given to the birth certificate issue could paint the Republican Party as out of touch and extreme, making it anathema to independents and swing voters while protecting Obama from the glare of what they view as troubling economic indicators that should sink his re-election bid.

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A fringe minority on the far right of the political spectrum has questioned whether Obama, whose father was a native of Kenya, was born in Hawaii. This small group, many of whom also questioned Obama’s religion, has continued to believe that the president is foreign-born.

(Excerpt) Read more at rollcall.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; notafringeanymore
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To: vaudine

41 posted on 04/29/2011 12:06:46 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: Nonstatist

I should have said they are cowards.


42 posted on 04/29/2011 12:09:31 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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To: jda; butterdezillion
You are the only person on this entire thread ... article and comments ... to even mention "Natural Born Citizen." The BC? All the BC does is establish that the man is NOT a "Natural Born Citizen," as traditionally understood.

If that interpretation is to change, it is the SCOTUS who is supposed to change it, or the Congress through the Amendment process, not a Dual Subject of the Crown, Indonesia, or Kenya.

Republicans in Congress
The SCOTUS
FAILED in political leadership and FAILED in Constitutional duty.

Not one Republican. Not West, Not Cain, Not Palin, nor anyone else has the simple courtesy to stand up challenge Obama on what a "Natural Born Citizen" is. Not one. (1) Personally, I would like to ask Obama what he think an NBC is. He has never forthrightly claimed that status. Would he?

43 posted on 04/29/2011 12:09:39 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk (We live in America's "Awkward" Era. Too late to fix the country. To early to start shooting.)
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To: DaveyB

A WINNING ISSUE !?? are you kidding me??
Clinton wasn’t convicted for doing monica in the oval office and lying under oath.
and you think we can impeach and convict BO because his father was british???
U R AN IDIOT !
we are spending 188million dollars an hour more than we bring in and you think his father is a winning issue??!
MORON!


44 posted on 04/29/2011 12:14:26 PM PDT by aumrl (let's keep it real Conservatives)
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To: DaveyB

Sad. Somehow these dimwits can turn a positive into a negative everytime a reporter comes sniffing around.


45 posted on 04/29/2011 12:15:42 PM PDT by ilgipper
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To: vaudine

I just love these articles and all the hand-wringing by some of the pundits. I think remember these a few weeks before the historic, blowout as* kicking in 2010. These are liberal trolls who love to be quoted by more than willing liberal columnists and pundits. Kinda of an echo chamber for the brain-dead. Like some guy who is umemployed and hanging on for dear life would vote for Obama because some Republican meanie actually questioned his birth certificate, oh the horror. This is right out the DNC playbook to feign outrage and then yourself be outrageous and provocative. Trump really rattled their cages cause he went right at the Krauthammers, Rich Lowreys and the Carl Roves. The guys who just love Queensberry rules and letting the enemy set the terms of battle. I want Obama angry, petulant, distracted and depressed. I want every stone unturned, every scandal exposed, his wife and kids included. His kids cheats in Math class I want to know about and all over the front page the parenting these two degenerates are responsible for. Rove and company need to read Art of War, one of the key aspects of beating an enemy is upsetting him and making him irrational. I want Obama utterly destroyed and broken...only then can he have the epiphany and real change.


46 posted on 04/29/2011 12:17:34 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: vaudine

I just love these articles and all the hand-wringing by some of the pundits. I think remember these a few weeks before the historic, blowout as* kicking in 2010. These are liberal trolls who love to be quoted by more than willing liberal columnists and pundits. Kinda of an echo chamber for the brain-dead. Like some guy who is umemployed and hanging on for dear life would vote for Obama because some Republican meanie actually questioned his birth certificate, oh the horror. This is right out the DNC playbook to feign outrage and then yourself be outrageous and provocative. Trump really rattled their cages cause he went right at the Krauthammers, Rich Lowreys and the Carl Roves. The guys who just love Queensberry rules and letting the enemy set the terms of battle. I want Obama angry, petulant, distracted and depressed. I want every stone unturned, every scandal exposed, his wife and kids included. His kids cheats in Math class I want to know about and all over the front page the parenting these two degenerates are responsible for. Rove and company need to read Art of War, one of the key aspects of beating an enemy is upsetting him and making him irrational. I want Obama utterly destroyed and broken...only then can he have the epiphany and real change.


47 posted on 04/29/2011 12:17:34 PM PDT by pburgh01
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My #1 litmus test is the debt ceiling, above all else. The time to nibble around the edges with meaningless budget efforts that will take 10,20, or more years to produce any results is long over.

I would vote for any candidate of any party that pledges to VETO any bill that extends the debt ceiling. But I already know we won’t ever see a candidate that will do this, so I’m pretty sure I’ll be sitting out the 2012 elections. It doesn’t really matter if Obama gets reelected if we have Congress willing to extend the debt ceiling to infinity and beyond.


48 posted on 04/29/2011 12:19:11 PM PDT by Zeddicus
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To: svcw

GOP Fears, is the operative part.


49 posted on 04/29/2011 12:20:24 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: Zeddicus
My #1 litmus test is the debt ceiling, above all else.

You're right! That's my number one also, I just didn't think of it.

50 posted on 04/29/2011 12:21:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (When and why did Steve Dunham change his name to Barack Hussein Obama? When he converted to Islam?)
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To: vaudine

GOP needs to fight like a Democrat.


51 posted on 04/29/2011 12:21:59 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: All

Trump is making headway because he talks like a less profane version of Stone Cold Steve Austin:
He tells it like it is with no regards for Political Correctness.
I’m not necessarily for Trump, but I love his strategy of telling ugly truths and IGNORING those who are playing the race card....


52 posted on 04/29/2011 12:26:07 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: Paperdoll
Did he lose his American citizenship when he became a citizen of Indonesia?

No. According to Vattel, man can not take away what Nature had given, so even if his adoption made Soetoro his 'legal' father, the child would choose his nationality upon reaching his age of majority at 18 years old.

Barry however could have legitimately chosen from 3 different ones;

US Native born [based on his being born here in Hawaii, his father's foreign citizenship keeps him from being a natural born citizen]

British [based on his father's citizenship and which would have become Kenyan shortly after his birth]

Indonesian [based on his adoption by Soetoro]

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The more pertinent question, IMHO, is which one he chose when he entered college, because that would be the one he would be considered both legally and lawfully for the rest of his life.

He supposedly registered as a foreign citizen and got government loans based on that status, but I've never seen much evidence of it.

53 posted on 04/29/2011 12:37:33 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: DaveyB
I sorta get it. The so called "GOP strategeryists" think that the NBC issue is a no go against an Obama re election bid because it will PO the latino and other immigrant vote.

Very difficult to raise character against Obama because they'll play the race card. Not looking good for noodle spined RINO/Rinocrats.I am voting and contributing to Tea Party candidates and will fully support a Draft Ryan and ??? ABBT (Anybody But BachmannTrump) LOL - he's a potty mouth Clintonista and she's eyecandy only

54 posted on 04/29/2011 12:46:35 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: DaveyB

GOP strategists, right. Trump’s been leading the GOP because he has the balls to question this and other issues. RINOs.


55 posted on 04/29/2011 12:56:18 PM PDT by stevio (God, guns, guts.)
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To: All

If the GOP cares at all about winning (which I’m beginning to wonder if they do), this issue will be dead in the water by next year. If gas prices reach $5 to $6 dollars a gallon, the economy is still in a slump, jobs are hard to find, houses can’t be sold and keep losing value, prices of necessary items keeps climbing, then the GOP would be fools NOT to hang that albatross around 0bama’s neck! 0bama was supposed to make things better after the “evil” Bush years and he has only made things worse. Keep up the constant drumbeat of this is 0bama’s economy; want four more years of THIS?!


56 posted on 04/29/2011 1:10:28 PM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: DaveyB

Hussein is NOT a “natural born citizen. PERIOD. Natural born requires 2 parents born on U.S. soil and a CHILD born on U.S. soil. Hussein’s father was born in Kenya, disqualifying The Chosen One as president. But...don’t expect those rock ribbed, super-courageous Republican party elites to raise the issue. These slack-jawed, inveterate cowards are more than happy to allow an America hating, would-be dictator to RULE this nation, as long as they, the party elders, are permitted to retain their little slice of power. The only thing these RINO vermin REALLY fear is the scorn of their leftist friends...their superiors at the NY Times, CNN, the New York cocktail party circle, etc.


57 posted on 04/29/2011 1:12:14 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: aumrl
...you think we can impeach and convict BO because his father was british??? U R AN IDIOT ! we are spending 188million dollars an hour more than we bring in and you think his father is a winning issue??! MORON!

Wow - what mastery you have of rhetoric and logic. Your persuasion and profundity are only eclipsed by your magnificent self.

I will type s-l-o-w-l-y just for you.

1) Obama hiding his records, his legislation even his identity if played right makes him look like the reptile he is. Americans will despise him for pulling a Nixon and only releasing one of his records while obfuscating the rest of the corpus of his life.

2) If the Republicans showed a deep appreciation and respect for the Constitution as it is written, the blessings of liberty it has facilitated and honor for the men who signed it, the dismissive attitude of the Democrat party would by contrast make them look like the spoiled brats that they indeed are.

3) An investigation into the background of Obama will distract him from his agenda, yield data about his radical past and likely demonstrate the entire democrat party as willing to ignore the Constitution for their own acquisition of power.

4) Elections are won by an energized base, never are they won by appeasing the opponent. You want the undecided vote, appeal to them on your commitment, vision and passion.

5) The birth certificate is but one document that was hidden (and may demonstrate that the certification of live birth was a fraud) pressure to keep more documents flowing will keep Obama on the defensive, where he shows himself to be most undisciplined, reckless, angry, spoiled and hateful. An angry defensive Obama can not win reelection, unless the republicans listen to their craven political advisers.

I may be a "moron" - but then you would most likely have said the same about Washington, Patrick Henry, John Adams, Sam Adams, Benjamin Rush...

58 posted on 04/29/2011 1:15:33 PM PDT by DaveyB (Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. -John Adams)
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To: DaveyB

This is what these pantywastes are worried about?.....


59 posted on 04/29/2011 1:16:23 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: svcw

60 posted on 04/29/2011 1:18:26 PM PDT by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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