Posted on 04/27/2011 7:39:09 AM PDT by Zakeet
This morning’s White House release of President Barack Obama’s long form birth certificate will, of course, do little to derail the “birther” movement, which will now analyze the document with the kind of verve previously directed toward those Texas Air National Guard memos faxed to CBS from that Kinko’s in Abilene.
So here’s a few nutty points about the birth certificate sure to be seized upon by the nonbelievers:
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The only thing I’d like to see is a couple of dozen other birth certificates of babies born to blacks in that hospital. In 1961 the only anthropometric measurements in the world of physical anthropology were Caucasoid, Negroid and Mongoloid. African is more of a nationality than a race.
Of course if a nurse was asking these questions as happened with all of my children, I can certainly see his mother responding with the term African rather than Negroid. It’s not like accuracy in this block on the form is of any great import.
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I think suspicion of a conspiracy has been legitimate, up to this point. But with the release of what is apparently the genuine long-form birth certificate (until and unless anybody can prove - and I mean PROVE, NOT just speculate) that this is a fraud, the game changes significantly in my view.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of people whose minds are now so made up that they may not be swayed by even legitimate evidence. In that case, they run the danger of making those of us who have plenty of other good reasons to see want Obama collecting his Presidential pension look like nutjobs. IMO.
Trump’s a lurker....(g)
Post of the day!
This is a crystal clear admission that the father was not a US Citizen thus making the son ineligible to be POTUS, period.
Comparing this with the Nordyke COLB, Obama’s is missing this text at the bottom along with signatures:
“THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE RESEARCH, PLANNING AND STATISTICS OFFICE
HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH”
Instead Obama’s has Onaka’s signature stamp indicating that it may also be an ABSTRACT.
It appears from my naked eyes that one document is being superimposed over another document that contains the signature stamp of Alvin Onaka (hint: look at the curling of the left-hand margin of the text field).
Are you saying that since the original BC was missing, that they printed up a new one in 2011? This is now his official BC? Or am I getting that wrong?
If The Donald does not make a big stink about this, it means he's a stalking-horse for Hussein, meant to inoculate him from further birth certificate inquiries.
BTW, if you look on the various sites a white Xerox copy of the document presented today was given to the press. Hawaii copied it from the volume (presumably) to regular paper. Then used the special watermark paper as well, which you can’t Xerox.
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Obama’s COLB is missing this text at the bottom along with signatures:
“THIS CERTIFIES THAT THE ABOVE IS A TRUE AND CORRECT COPY OF THE ORIGINAL RECORD ON FILE IN THE RESEARCH, PLANNING AND STATISTICS OFFICE
HAWAII STATE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH”
Instead Obama’s has Onaka’s signature stamp indicating that it may also be an ABSTRACT.
Look at the “date accepted stamp” It shows his was accepted 3 days before the Nordyke certificates. Since they actually finished Obama’s first and was born a day before them it follows he should have the earlier number. He doesn’t.
“Unfortunately, there are a lot of people whose minds are now so made up that they may not be swayed by even legitimate evidence.”
Unfortunately for the democrats. I know a former democrat who will never believe Obama is American. Too long to respond. As for republicans, there has always been a group of thought control freaks trying to supress curiosity. They are the ones who will harm conservatism more through their criticism of fellow conservatives.
The term African-American was created in 1987 from the poem “I Can”, so this was way after Obama’s birth. If this is the Original, the word August is typed out wherein the twins’ BC is abbreviated. Small but inconsistent point. Obama made a wrong move with this, it will raise many more questions then answers.
Why is the hospital address for the Nordyke BC different from Obama’s? It’s the same hospital. Different wings on different streets? Anybody know?
This is the kind of minor discrepancy that's actually a pretty good argument FOR legitimacy.
Most forgers would probably iron out such little wrinkles.
Real life is seldom 100% straightforward. Offices have 2 or 3 different people who fill out certificates, and there's a bit of variation in how things are done. Someone rips off a small stack of forms and puts them in one place, or hands them to one person, another small stack of forms goes somewhere else. A piece of paper sits on someone's desk for a day instead of being filled out immediately. When it's filled out, they use yesterday's date stamp, then notice later that they need to change the date.
There are probably a hundred different ways for minor variations to take place. The people who do the work are ordinary people. Sally, who didn't do that well in school but landed a job with the state. Bill, who's going through a divorce and doesn't really care that much about doing a good job right now.
Nobody thinks it will ever be, or even seem, important, to anyone. In 299,000,000 cases out of 300,000,000, they're right.
Joe Farash said the same thing [WND article today.]
I’m sure it is just sloppy record keeping /s...LOL. That’s because ObaMao is a fraud.
A piece of paper sits on someone’s desk for a day instead of being filled out immediately.
Why then does the “date accepted” show Obama’s was accepted 3 days before the Nordykes?
1. Different clerks. Likely small inconsistencies in all the long forms.
2. African. Was there a form handed to the parents? They filled it out and then typed it? If so, Kenyans did refer to themselves as “Africans” at the time. Obviously if it’s a box to check... African wouldn’t be on the list.
3. Obama WANTS questions to still be ask as he set it up, “Whatever I do, those crazies will still say I wasn’t born here.” He’s worried about the soft middle of American politics. Wants to paint himself as the reasonable moderate and Republicans as “extreme” and this helps him do that.
Also, there were questions about ‘who is Anna’ so using “(Stanley) Ann” for her signature was smart. And she very well may have tried to use Ann instead of the oddball “Stanley” name at phases of her life.
Let’s see what the scoop on the doctor is and what the experts figure out from here.
These forms are the same. M is printed on form same on both.
However her Race is cut in half nearly from top to bottom so was definitely cut and pasted. However not on the White House released version.
UckLee is Korean quite possible in Hawaii.
Yes not what one would normally receive but then too they no longer release the long form so this would have to be done differently.
The fact she added Stanley is a human thing that adds to the authenticity.
I never really bought in to the born in Kenya. I always felt he was most likely born in Hawaii. They did not release the back of the form where any notations would be. Those are what I always felt he was hiding. I also do not buy Barack Sr as the actual father. I believe that a fabrication to give the appearance of marriage.
This should be a dead issue. The real problems he has is his bogus SSN and Indonesian citizenship ( did he give it up at 21 if not he is Indonesian not American). You have to choose by then dual citizenship is not for life only until age 21.
True. It does cut both ways. It's a HUGE thing in my mind that he waited for 3 years to release a copy of his long-form birth certificate. Some won't see it that way, some will. As far as I'm concerned, he's slimy even IF legitimately elected. And while I haven't found any obvious problem with the certificate released today, why the hell would he wait 3 years, and have lawyers file a bunch of legal papers, to block its release up to this point?
And why the HELL would someone let Lt. Col. Terrence Lakin be court-martialed and sentenced to jail if it was in his power to stop it? At the very best, Obama's a complete a******. IMO.
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