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1 posted on 04/10/2011 5:40:53 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
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To: TigerLikesRooster; PAR35; AndyJackson; Thane_Banquo; nicksaunt; MadLibDisease; happygrl; ...

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2 posted on 04/10/2011 5:41:51 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: GiovannaNicoletta

Giovanna-To go along with yesterdays discussion.


3 posted on 04/10/2011 5:44:59 AM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
China collapse?

(Sound of grey_whiskers PURRING!)

4 posted on 04/10/2011 5:50:35 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for posting.

I’m glad people are waking up to the giant bubble and economic deception that is China.

I was starting to doubt my own sanity when I was screaming about the signs over a year ago.

When this blows, it will be massive, and will very likely result in warfare.

I haven’t changed my tag in a long, long time.


5 posted on 04/10/2011 5:53:57 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Iran has no influence in China.

The authoritarian regimes are the Iranian targets because there is a large young population seeded with fanatic malcontents.

There is no such condition in China. China has no Mecca


6 posted on 04/10/2011 5:56:12 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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To: TigerLikesRooster

What if every country in the world collapsed at the same rate? Would anyone notice?


7 posted on 04/10/2011 6:04:05 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Authoritarian regimes are not inherently unstable - no more or less so then ‘mockracies. This article only makes sense if you’re one of those naive people who still believes that this middle east unrest is a spontaneous ‘mockracy movement instead of a coordinated effort to overthrow largely secular despots and replace them with mullahs on the way to a caliphate.

In reality, none of the fundamentals that apply to the middle east uprisings apply to China. Are there folks in China who would like to see the status quo overturned? Sure. Today, they amount to a fart in the wind. China is doing just fine for itself, and is very near to winning its decades long economic war on the United States.


8 posted on 04/10/2011 6:21:23 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Has WSJ changed the rules for online access? I used to be able to read past the paywall notice...


10 posted on 04/10/2011 6:28:28 AM PDT by bigbob (u)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

bttt


11 posted on 04/10/2011 6:43:19 AM PDT by TEXOKIE (Anarchy IS the strategy of the forces of darkness!)
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To: TigerLikesRooster
Don't hold your breath waiting. China's booms and busts follow a 150 to 240 year cycle. They haven't risen to empire status in the cycle yet, but they probably will. The U.S. is the current big empire on the block, and likely either the last, or the penultimate one which isn't truly global in scope.

You have to hope that the laws of Chinese empire won't be the one's under which we live. And hope is for dopes. But other than buying American and keeping my fellow citizens employed I don't know what else I can do as an individual to stop America's suicide.

12 posted on 04/10/2011 6:46:48 AM PDT by Big Bronson
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To: TigerLikesRooster

There are 800 million Chinese people not part of the economic boom of the past 30 years who will soon ask for their ‘fair share’. Social safety net, higher wages, healthcare. Inflation, especially food prices, is heating up. Factory workers can make more money staying on the family farm.

I expect China to have major social unrest within 2 years. Similar to the Mideast but on a much larger scale. (I’m in China now on business).


16 posted on 04/10/2011 7:30:53 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

China has a skewed top-down economy that still reflects the instincts and control of the Communist Party.

Private consumption is only about 35% of the economy - a figure about half the USA’s and well below “normal” levels. “Investment” is 49% of GDP - a huge figure representing the chinese Gov’ts control over the economy at all levels.

IF China has a crisis - it will be begin in politics first, because the Communist Party and the Gov’t ARE the chinese economy/


21 posted on 04/10/2011 8:03:54 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Protesters versus tanks....let’s see....how did that Tiananmen Square thing turn out?


22 posted on 04/10/2011 8:08:18 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: TigerLikesRooster; sukhoi-30mki
Just returned this morning from a week in Beijing for work-related purposes. It was my first time in China, and I have to honestly say I was impressed. Apart from the (thoroughly atrocious) pollution, the level of infrastructure was really amazing. Not exactly Dubai level (that would be Shanghai), but can easily keep pace with any major American city. The level of opulence was also quite high, and the M&A deals and other finance deals going on were truly amazing (and I can easily see good deals coming). However, once I took some time to walk about and meet the 'normal' people who were taking buses rather than driving Maseratis, things changed a bit. Walking about the Silk Market, or driving an hour past Beijing's city limits, one meets people who are not the picture of opulence personified. A lot of these people do not even have the special passes (akin to inland visas that people from the rural areas have to get to live in the big cities) to have their child join a school. The further West you go in China the poorer things get. If the Chinese economy was to stop growing that is probably where the dislocation would stem from, particularly considering the huge disparity between cities like Beijing and Shanghai (and even tier 2 and 3 cities, some of them that are more advanced than Dallas or Chicago) and the rural hinterland that looks the same as when Mao was there.

However, if that economic dislocation doesn't come, then for certain China is the next superpower! It's really that simple. I was talking to certain gentlemen from a certain Chinese company that I can obviously not name that are setting up all these subsidiaries in the US, and it was amazing the ease at which they were doing that. The excitement in the room was palpable. Add to that all the expansion happening in Africa and Latin America, and a graph showing their frenetic rise contrasted against the slowing down (and in two cases decline) of American and European competitors showed just how things may be if the Chinese economy keeps chugging. For the life of me I cannot decipher the STUPIDITY of the West to cede Africa (almost completely) and Latin America (to a large extent) to the Chinese. Someday that will be written down as a major mistake by the West, particularly considering the abundant resources present, the geo-political advantages, and also the fact that Africa alone currently has a larger middle class than India, and a middle class that is increasing at a significant rate (hence the current Chinese one-two punch of not only taking natural resources, but also tapping into the nascent but quickly developing consumer market in sub-Saharan Africa).

Anyways, it was an enlightening (and enjoyable) trip. Very enlightening. If China does not collapse within the next 7-10 years, then it will be next to impossible for them to not to be a superpower. In some ways they already are!

23 posted on 04/10/2011 8:49:49 AM PDT by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m trying to bug out now, I think China is just as shaky as the U.S.. I’ve been reading a book called “Going Galt”, about economic survival when everything is collapsing. It’s pretty good, but damn scary. Are whole worlds are about to change radically.

https://www.createspace.com/3514336


32 posted on 04/10/2011 2:40:29 PM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

The author lives in fantasy land.

China is replacing America. The only nation collapsing is us.

Because we are sending everything of value - our jobs, factories and wealth to “collapsing” China, to which we owe trillions.

The author may as well write about bigfoot or ufo’s for all the reality his writing contains.


35 posted on 04/10/2011 2:45:39 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Palin / Trump 2012 - America First)
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