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Southwest Airlines grounds 81 planes after emergency
Reuters ^ | Sat Apr 2, 2011 10:57am EDT | David Schwartz

Posted on 04/02/2011 9:16:29 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative

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To: upchuck

>>Reason number 687 why I have quit flying for good.<<

Statistically, flying is much much safer than driving. When you saw a car accident, did you swear off driving?


61 posted on 04/02/2011 11:01:46 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: SteamShovel

Southwest had a similar incident with another plane a year or few ago. I seem to recall it was blamed on fatigue. Sounds as if the resultant investigation wasn’t as thorough as it might have been and may have reached overly optimistic conclusions, as I don’t recall they grounded any other planes as a result, other than a quick inspection.

A second instance of this type of skin failure means it must be taken much more seriously.


62 posted on 04/02/2011 11:10:57 AM PDT by Real Cynic No More (The mighty zero, obama,does not warrant the respect necessary for his name to be capitalized.)
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To: hattend

Never read the article or scroll down, it takes all the surprise out of life.


63 posted on 04/02/2011 11:15:07 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Paleo Conservative

The flight originated in Arizona, so you KNOW it wad caused by Sarah Palin and all the rhetoric on talk radio.

Or maybe the plane knew that Laz vowed not to hit it.


64 posted on 04/02/2011 11:21:51 AM PDT by JRios1968 (Of course Laz would hit it!)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

It makes me angry that people would dismiss a hole in an airplane.


65 posted on 04/02/2011 11:37:13 AM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: freedumb2003

You don’t fall 30,000ft in most car accidents.


66 posted on 04/02/2011 11:38:57 AM PDT by wastedyears (It has nothing to do with safety, and everything to do with control.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

The top pic looks like the force went from inside the cabin to outside the plane, although it could have been curled up by wind pressure, I guess.

At 30,000 feet what could one make impact with? A meteorite???

Otherwise, you’d have some internal force pushing its way out and leaving the plane with edges pointing outward from the exiting force.


67 posted on 04/02/2011 11:54:47 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Somebody apparently needed more room for his carry-on.


68 posted on 04/02/2011 12:06:41 PM PDT by Jim W N
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To: driftdiver
Holy crap. 10,740 fpm descend rate. Thought they were going to die indeed.

USA: Eastern Latitude Longitude Heading Direction KTS MPH feet Rate Location/Type
06:59PM 33.72 -114.37 269° West 412 474 36,000 -5,520 Los Angeles Center
07:00PM 33.72 -114.51 261° West 428 493 19,700 -10,740 Los Angeles Center
07:01PM 33.71 -114.65 260° West 423 487 14,600 -4,320 Los Angeles Center

And the -5K and -4K before and after it aren't a walk in the park either.

69 posted on 04/02/2011 12:13:05 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
It's the Obama administration and their distraction with the foreign wars for OIL!

They've not taken a leadership position on airplane safety either.
How many Americans will die because of their wars?

70 posted on 04/02/2011 12:21:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: Paleo Conservative
Aloha Airlines flight 243, April 1988.


71 posted on 04/02/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by FReepaholic (Pray for Japan.)
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To: Domandred

I wonder what the cockpit recorder sounds like. I would imagine he told the controllers he was going down fast.

Still took 3-4 minutes to get down to a breathable altitude. The pilot probably saved some lives.


72 posted on 04/02/2011 12:45:34 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Michael Barnes

>Help me out, what is “a gaping hole in the fuselage” mean?

Judging by the pictures on yahoo news, it simply means “I’m going to die..”


73 posted on 04/02/2011 12:50:51 PM PDT by max americana ( NF)
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To: wastedyears

No joke. I guess a fair number of people think that the aircrew would see it and do something if it were really important. I would take it a step farther than telling the flight attendants, I’d go to pilots (the door is open when the flight is first boarding). I’d tell them very succinctly that they have a hole in fuselage that you can see daylight through. Whether they blow me off or not, it’s three steps to the left off the jet, have a nice day.

I would also tell as many onloading passengers as possible, “If you’re comfortable with flying with gaping holes in the fuselage, then by all means, be seated and have a great flight.”

99.999% of the time, all it takes is one person to say something before a lot of people chime in, “Hey, this doesn’t look right! What’s going on?!” It’s always the hardest to step up first.


74 posted on 04/02/2011 12:51:52 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Domandred

For a loss-of-cabin-pressure accident, pilots are trained to descend to 10,000 feet (breathable air) as fast as possible.


75 posted on 04/02/2011 12:57:27 PM PDT by TennesseeProfessor
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To: BuckeyeTexan

The characterization of that hole goes from “gaping” to “cavernous” if I’m riding the aircraft.


76 posted on 04/02/2011 1:00:05 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

>>The cause of the loss of cabin pressure is the big frickin’ hole in the side of the jet. What they want to do is find the root cause of the structural failure. Reporters are idiots.

Worth saying again, especially that last.


77 posted on 04/02/2011 1:02:45 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SunTzuWu
The idea that you will be sucked out of the hole or that the aircraft goes into an unrecoverable dive is an invention of Hollywood.

Yeah, the Mythbusters debunked it, with the FBI watching out of extreme interest.

78 posted on 04/02/2011 1:06:20 PM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Paleo Conservative

Yep, the MARINES of MCAS Yuma, to the rescue! Doing what is deemed impossible at all times. [and yes I am biased, I used to be stationed there!]


79 posted on 04/02/2011 1:39:07 PM PDT by TMSuchman (John 15;13 & Exodus 21:22-25)
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To: Paleo Conservative

I am quite sure that the “Sudden drop in cabin air pressure” had something to do with that hole in the fuselage.


80 posted on 04/02/2011 1:48:00 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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