Posted on 03/28/2011 6:04:06 AM PDT by chopperman
I loved it.
True. So what exactly did Obama negotiate with the Kenyan government?
Then Senator Barack Obama directly interfered with the politics of Kenya in a way that usurped US foreign policy.
That is simply not true, and your photograph proves nothing. Just because he went to Kenya, and just because he gave a couple boilerplate speaches on economic development, doesn't mean he interfered in their politics.
Can you name a single elected official or prosecutor who has accused Obama of doing this?
Okay, can you name a single conservative member of Congress or anyone within the Bush administration's justice department who thinks so? Surely they can't all be RINOs.
Lugar is well known to be a RINO
I see, so in your mind, just because Lugar is a squish on tax and social issues means he's going to look the other way when someone violates the Logan act? That's brither logic for you!
But forget Lugar. Let's suppose he doesn't care about rule of law. What about all the other GOP members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Surely thay all aren't RINO's. How come not a single one accused Obama of violating the Logan act?
What about all the members of the military who travelled with Obama to Kenya? How come none of them accused Obama of doing anything wrong? Are you going to call them all traitors, too?
To date, you are accusing Dick Lugar, president Bush's justice department, every Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations committee, and several decorated military officers who traveled with Obama of being complicit in a violation of the Logan act. Are you really prepared to make that charge against all these people?
Okay, can you name a single conservative member of Congress or anyone within the Bush administration's justice department who thinks so? Surely they can't all be RINOs.
Lugar is well known to be a RINO
I see, so in your mind, just because Lugar is a squish on tax and social issues means he's going to look the other way when someone violates the Logan act? That's brither logic for you!
But forget Lugar. Let's suppose he doesn't care about rule of law. What about all the other GOP members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee? Surely thay all aren't RINO's. How come not a single one accused Obama of violating the Logan act?
What about all the members of the military who travelled with Obama to Kenya? How come none of them accused Obama of doing anything wrong? Are you going to call them all traitors, too?
To date, you are accusing Dick Lugar, president Bush's justice department, every Republican on the Senate Foreign Relations committee, and several decorated military officers who traveled with Obama of being complicit in a violation of the Logan act. Are you really prepared to make that charge against all these people?
You serious? Well you probably are but the government of Kenya didn’t see it your way and neither do I.
Prominent visitors have criticized Kenyan corruption before. But hearing the message from Obama was different. For he was seen not only as a fellow Kenyan standing up to power, but also as a Luo standing up to a Kikuyo—the dominant ethnic group to which President Mwai Kibaki belongs and against which Luo resentment runs deep. And worse, in the government’s eyes, at least, he was seen as siding with the opposition—in particular with Raila Odinga, a powerful kingmaker and Luo whose Orange Democratic Movement has been a painful thorn in Kibaki’s side. “It is very clear that the senator has been used as a puppet to perpetuate opposition politics,” sniffed Kibaki spokesperson Alfred Mutua.
http://www.newsweek.com/2006/09/10/walking-the-world-stage.html
Can you cite to me the relevant section of the act?
As I have already said; it is well known in America that many of our laws are not being enforced when it comes to the politicians themselves (or their cronies) and that the Constitution is being trampled upon.
You can go along your perverse path of logic in order to defend Obama but it is obvious that he should have been charged but of course the corruption within both parties prevents this being that of course they may have to actually battle for the rule of law. Republicans fold being that they fear the battle.
Obama absolutely should have been charged and he absolutely expressed his dual loyalty by injecting himself into the Kenyan Presidential election. John Kerry should have been charged as well for his treasonous acts but of course the same form of corruption and fear prevented that as well.
So your little characterization of claiming ‘to date you are accusing every…’ is just a ploy in order to try and win a debate and defend your hero Obama. It reflects nothing about the reality of the situation we face in this country at all. I supported President Bush and I support the Republican party but I see the flaws and the faults and the corruption they engage in all of the time. I also see that you are a left-wing troll.
You are mischaracterizing what Obama did. His criticisms were designed to help a candidate in their election who he also toured with and appeared with. He was campaigning for Odinga. You know this but continue to be disingenuous about this and are attempting to whitewash his crime thus proving you are a Obama troll.
How so?
His criticisms were designed to help a candidate in their election who he also toured with and appeared with.
Prove it.
First you prove your claims. So far you have mischaracterized every issue in this thread and stated flat-out lies in it as well in order to defend Obama.
All I have claimed is that Obama should have been charged and that then the case could be proven in a Court.
Seventh time: you dodged any sort of statement about your conservative principles and again made vague threats.
The only conclusion is that you have no principles.
I'm not accusing anyone of committing a crime. You are. The burden of proof is thus on you.
So far you have mischaracterized every issue in this thread and stated flat-out lies in it as well in order to defend Obama.
Every positive claim I have made has been backed up with facts.
All I have claimed is that Obama should have been charged and that then the case could be proven in a Court.
Yes, and it is a claim that has no merit, as you have no evidence to back it up. And no, the youtube video does not give any evidence of a Logan act violation. It is not a crime for a Senator to give speeches in a foreign land about how government corruption hampers economic development.
More BS spin from you and mischaracterization. You simply cast smears against any information that you are given whereas any reasonable person would not. You then though give nothing to back up your claims at all. You continually show yourself to be a left-wing troll with no regard for the rule of law at all unless it is a conservative who is being accused and then you also mock, smear and ridicule.
You selectively decide what evidence you want to support and which evidence you don’t want to and the fact is clear throughout this thread that you only choose to support evidence that supports Obama, the left-wing and the democrat party.
Obama has broken law upon law and his supporters spin the facts in order to defend him just as you are doing in this thread. You have been given facts to support the claims I made but you prove yourself to be a left-wing hack every time with the tactics that you use. Even from many reports during the election Obama had been violating the Logan Act and negotiating with foreign governments hostile to the United States and a pattern of this could be shown from Obama and from the democrat party overall from Ted Kennedy to John Kerry to an endless amount of democrats.
LOL. Let me assure you, no reasonable person takes anything published by WorldNutDaily seriously, especially if it can't be corroborated by another source.
Obama has broken law upon law
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no evidence.
you have been given facts to support the claims
The only "fact" you gave me was a youtube video in which Obama makes the obvious observation that government corruption is hampering Kenya's economic development. You have presented nothing that would even suggest his actions violated the Logan act.
There is a reason no member of Congress and no Justice Department offials even suggested he might have violated the law on his Kenya trip.
Even from many reports during the election Obama had been violating the Logan Act and negotiating with foreign governments
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no proof. And again, giving a speech about government corruption in Kenya is not a crime.
LOL. Let me assure you, no reasonable person takes anything published by WorldNutDaily seriously, especially if it can't be corroborated by another source.
Obama has broken law upon law
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no evidence.
you have been given facts to support the claims
The only "fact" you gave me was a youtube video in which Obama makes the obvious observation that government corruption is hampering Kenya's economic development. You have presented nothing that would even suggest his actions violated the Logan act.
There is a reason no member of Congress and no Justice Department offials even suggested he might have violated the law on his Kenya trip.
Even from many reports during the election Obama had been violating the Logan Act and negotiating with foreign governments
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no proof. And again, giving a speech about government corruption in Kenya is not a crime.
LOL. Let me assure you, no reasonable person takes anything published by WorldNutDaily seriously, especially if it can't be corroborated by another source.
Obama has broken law upon law
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no evidence.
you have been given facts to support the claims
The only "fact" you gave me was a youtube video in which Obama makes the obvious observation that government corruption is hampering Kenya's economic development. You have presented nothing that would even suggest his actions violated the Logan act.
There is a reason no member of Congress and no Justice Department offials even suggested he might have violated the law on his Kenya trip.
Even from many reports during the election Obama had been violating the Logan Act and negotiating with foreign governments
So you say. Unfortunately, you have no proof. And again, giving a speech about government corruption in Kenya is not a crime.
I still say that Trump or anyone with that much media exposure should demand that Obama be asked his real legal name. Obama should have to explain his alias used when he lived in Indonesia (Barry Soetoro) and explain as to why he was registered as an Indonesian citizen. Was he adopted? Did he legally change his name back to Obama or did he just fraudulently start using this name again?
All People should demand that Obama should release all of his records just as the democrats demanded that John McCain release all of his.
Once would have been sufficient.
Spoken like a total left-wing hack.
People like you that defend Obama are the lowest of the low.
If ‘curious’ had once responded sincerely about evidence presented to him instead of smearing, mocking and then telling all out lies on the issue he would be possibly have a leg to stand on with certain claims but instead he continually proves to be a left-wing hack.
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