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Why Do We Let Them Dress Like That?
Wall Street Journal ^ | 03/19/2011 | JENNIFER MOSES

Posted on 03/22/2011 3:50:08 PM PDT by iowamark

Women of a liberated generation wrestle with their eager-to-grow-up daughters—and their own pasts

...In a few years, their attention will turn to the annual ritual of shopping for a prom dress, and by then their fashion tastes will have advanced still more. Having done this now for two years with my own daughter, I continue to be amazed by the plunging necklines, built-in push-up bras, spangles, feathers, slits and peek-a-boos. And try finding a pair of sufficiently "prommish" shoes designed with less than a 2-inch heel...

A woman I know, with two mature daughters, said, "If I could do it again, I wouldn't even have slept with my own husband before marriage. Sex is the most powerful thing there is, and our generation, what did we know?"

We are the first moms in history to have grown up with widely available birth control, the first who didn't have to worry about getting knocked up. We were also the first not only to be free of old-fashioned fears about our reputations but actually pressured by our peers and the wider culture to find our true womanhood in the bedroom. Not all of us are former good-time girls now drowning in regret—I know women of my generation who waited until marriage—but that's certainly the norm among my peers.

So here we are, the feminist and postfeminist and postpill generation. We somehow survived our own teen and college years (except for those who didn't), and now, with the exception of some Mormons, evangelicals and Orthodox Jews, scads of us don't know how to teach our own sons and daughters not to give away their bodies so readily. We're embarrassed, and we don't want to be, God forbid, hypocrites...

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: clothes; daughters; dress; fashion; feminist; postfeminist; rush; rushlimbaugh; sex; talkradio; women
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To: FrogMom

Where are you shopping?! I just did a random online check of several popular girls stores (Justice, Old Navy, Gap, CrewCuts) and, while they do have spaghetti strap tops, the tops are not belly-baring at all and there are no Daisy Dukes that I could find. Shorts, yes, but not the kind that let a person’s bum hang out. Many girls wear a t-shirt under their spaghetti strap top. It’s cute, and modest.


81 posted on 03/22/2011 6:27:56 PM PDT by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: SIDENET

Empowerment is about impotence in reality. It is about cynical abandon.


82 posted on 03/22/2011 6:29:03 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrates Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: BigIsleGal

These had cuffs, not cutoffs.....


83 posted on 03/22/2011 6:34:58 PM PDT by Red Badger (How can anyone look at the situation in Libya and be for gun control is beyond stupid. It's suicide.)
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To: iowamark
We're embarrassed, and we don't want to be, God forbid, hypocrites...

What is hypocritical about saying "I did something and it was wrong, I regret doing it and I wish that you would learn from my mistake"?

I really don't get that concept.

Can only perfect people point out that something is wrong?

Or is there a empirical standard of what is right that is still true no matter who is saying it?

84 posted on 03/22/2011 6:44:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: coop71

Smallish town 75 miles from Tucson.

Was shopping at Target.


85 posted on 03/22/2011 6:51:34 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: coop71

P.S. We don’t have Justice, Old Navy, Gap or CrewCuts.


86 posted on 03/22/2011 6:53:06 PM PDT by FrogMom (There is no such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
is there a empirical standard of what is right that is still true no matter who is saying it

Yes.

87 posted on 03/22/2011 7:07:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Nadie me ama como Jesus.)
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To: AppyPappy

Wow, great tactic! Mine’s 12 going on 22 and has been eschewed by her “friends” for wearing “old lady panties” instead of thongs. 12 year olds, thongs?


88 posted on 03/22/2011 7:07:41 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: fhayek

DON’T FORGET FLEA MARKETS ALSO.


89 posted on 03/22/2011 7:11:11 PM PDT by packrat35 (America is rapidly becoming a police state that East Germany could be proud of!)
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To: dagogo redux
I have to step back from time to time and admit I admire the Muslims’ take on this whole matter.

Are you setting up any female circumcision parties for your girls, dumba$$? That's just about the dumbest thing I've heard in my 10+ years here.

90 posted on 03/22/2011 7:12:06 PM PDT by j_tull (I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.)
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To: Tax-chick
Thank you.

Sometimes I just need to hear it.

91 posted on 03/22/2011 7:22:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (When all you have is bolt cutters & vodka everything looks like the lock on Wolf Blitzer's boathouse)
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To: SuziQ

Exactly. It’s extremely unprofessional. It is not business attire and it is not day attire either. Half the women on TV look either like they are about to go play tennis or to a cocktail party. It looks very stupid.

Also as of last summer or so, almost all women on TV, having gone about as far as they could with showing their boobs, then went to sleeveless dresses/tops. First, most women don’t have the arms to do that, esp. on TV. But this simply added to the inappropriateness of their look. I see Dana Perino in a sleeveless, lowcut dress— YUCK.

But the real point is that all all this skin does is cheapen the impact of seeing skin. Is that what people want?


92 posted on 03/22/2011 7:31:51 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: forgotten man; All
Yes. It's really depressing and disgusting. And truly old ladies getting new tattoos. That's just ridiculous.

The Libs managed to take the sexy out of sexy, every last bit of it. No wonder they are flailing about looking for some place, any place, any way shape or form, to find some kind of a thrill. Sex is a tired joke if you "discovered" it when you were six, your teachers shoved it in your face, like learning multiplication tables, from 2nd grade on, and you engaged in it just because with whatzhis/hername and now you're 30 years old and nothing normal is powerful like sex rightly should be . . .

Okay, this is from that site that is not welcome here, but it really is an article all y'all should read:

Why You're Not Married:

Reason #3:

3. You're a Slut. Hooking up with some guy in a hot tub on a rooftop is fine for the ladies of Jersey Shore -- but they're not trying to get married. You are. Which means, unfortunately, that if you're having sex outside committed relationships, you will have to stop. Why? Because past a certain age, casual sex is like recreational heroin -- it doesn't stay recreational for long.

Actually, casual sex pretty much ruins real sex forever. Sorry, but the thrill --- the real thrill --- is gone once it's gone.

93 posted on 03/22/2011 7:43:39 PM PDT by fightinJAG (I am sick of people adding comments to titles in the title box. Thank you.)
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To: ODC-GIRL

At a lot of ‘fashion’ stores, there is nothing but garbage. When I was fifteen and worked at Fashion Bug, there was some good stuff, but these days it’s all garbage, with hideously low necklines.


94 posted on 03/22/2011 7:58:47 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: Tax-chick
I don't.

Neither do I, although my 13 year old daughter shows no interest in 'tarting up'.

Fortunately (for both of us), she's never been subjected to, nor thrust into the sort of social prison that forces girls to 'follow the herd' off a cliff.

95 posted on 03/22/2011 9:06:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Red Badger
Never trust anyone over thirty. That was the mantra of the 60’s generation. Now that they are all pushing 60 they find out how really stupid they were...

Depends... If they're still liberal, then they never figured out how stupid they were. Sort of like this author.

96 posted on 03/22/2011 9:09:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Tax-chick
I’ll have four teenage sons at once, eventually.

When I hit 18, my mom officially had five teenagers under her roof. She's still nuts to this very day .. LOL

97 posted on 03/22/2011 9:18:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
While flipping through cable channels I sometimes cross paths with MTV, VH1, BET, and Univision. Talk about women as sex objects — yikes!! The worst offender seems to be Univision. The programming pretty much originates in Mexico City, from what I can tell, and it is positively obsessed with T&A, with a lot of emphasis on the “T”. Also, the younger the better seems to be ideal — 25 is elderly and 30 is nursing home fare. I find it hard to imagine that people actually watch such garbage, but there's and audience of tasteless people out there to be satisfied, I guess.
98 posted on 03/22/2011 11:03:22 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: MasterGunner01

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/in-february-univision-beat-nbc-growing-its-audience-as-four-major-nets-lost-ground/
“In February, Univision Beat NBC, Growing Its Audience As Four Major Nets Lost Ground”


99 posted on 03/23/2011 12:43:17 AM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark
Katie Couric, Christiane Amanpour, Wolf Blitzed, and What's His Name are deeply depressed. No one’s watching them because there's so much T&A on Univision? Who'd a thunk it? Wait, Keith Oberdork is looking for a job. Maybe he can get audience share back. Oh, MSNBC fired him -- not likely then.
100 posted on 03/23/2011 1:02:29 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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