Posted on 03/04/2011 8:10:40 AM PST by milwguy
Edited on 03/04/2011 3:57:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
GREEN BAY - The Green Bay School Board has approved a large number of retirement requests from teachers and administrators.
With the future of the state budget uncertain, 140 teachers and 15 administrators asked to join the emeritus program. That works out to about 1 out of every 12 teachers in the district.
(Excerpt) Read more at fox11online.com ...
The MSM parrots the union line that all the public employees are willing to 'sacrifice' in order to get the budget under control. The reality is these teachers are filing for the 'emeritus program' because they know once the FleeBaggers return, giveaways like this are OVER.
TEN days work per year for 1/3 of their yearly salary for THREE years???? To quote Obama, WTF? They get their generous pension and 1/3 of their salary for 10 days work? The AVERAGE salary of a GB public school teacher is $55,100 so I would think these teachers make in excess of $60k per year. One third of that is $20k divided by TEN DAYS IS $2000 PER DAY or $250 PER HOUR WORKED!!! Name me any private sector employee that offers this kind of benefit?
The truth is these teachers are not willing to make ANY sacrifice and they will suck the taxpayer dry as long as humanly possible.
On the plus side, there will be HUGE retirements in 2011 in schools, cities, towns, counties, and at the state level. Those high salaries will go off the books and be replaced with lower sslary and benefit costs. The pension system in Wisconsin for public employees is actually one of the best funded in the nation, so it is possible this bill will have VERY positive affects on community and school budgets in the next couple years because of lower salary and benefit costs.
Collusive bargaining that gave GB teachers this "emeritus program" with school boards bought and paid for with union cash are what brought us to this point. Stop the madness!
Doesn't matter what kind of meritorious award might be made, if that, plus your salary, plus some sort of government retirement EXCEEDS the total compensation allowed, you gots ta' give up somethin'!
Now this may be entirely too revolutionary for state and local governments ~ like they've gotta' compete hard for those $1 million a year EX school superintendents and stuff!
Nobody in line for those jobs ~ in a country with 7,000,000 CEOs!
You know, you could randomly select your superintendents out of the CEOs and probably do OK with no problem.
a lot of these programs were started to entice BAD teachers into retiring...since the union won’t let you fire them. This is the end result.
It is my understanding that Wisconsin’s funding is in pretty tough shape. Check out this link. I would be most delighted to be proven wrong! Thanks!
http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2010/04/interactive-map-of-public-pension-plans.html
I have seen a variant of this “emeritus” deal elsewhere — in Arizona. It has outlived its usefulness. Times change.
Here’s how it went. It was not negotiated via unions. AZ’s teacher’s “union” presence is negligible, being a right to work state. Instead, 10-12 years ago, with the economy booming, with massive influx of population into AZ, there was a teacher shortage.
It created a vortex of need at both ends of the spectrum. The district in my community had long seen the benefit of phasing out older teachers at the high end of the salary schedule. The district figured they were saving money by raising high-end teachers’ salaries for their last year, which would have the effect of increasing their retirement income, which employers and employees had been “seeding” 50-50 throughout each teacher’s career . This incentive was meant to encourage high salaries out the door, to be replaced by starting-level teachers, thus saving the district money in the long run. So this policy was already in effect when the teacher shortage hit 10-12 years ago.
Then, with the massive influx of population, AZ’s teacher shortage was remedied by trying to KEEP teachers in place. So, for teachers our local district found to be strong, energetic leaders, they made a special provision to KEEP THEM ON STAFF, as backbone cadre to provide stability and continuity for the district in the face of all the rookies coming on board.
A provision existed in the State Retirement System whereby a retiree could not go back to work in the same job for six months after starting to draw retirement. A loophole was found and a consortium was formed that would “hire” retired teachers and “farm them out” to districts, so that they could continue working in the same job they retired from. Teacher shortages create schemes like this. The districts rehired the teachers at a 1/3 reduced salary and did not have to pay their retirement or their medical anymore, so they were able to keep selected veteran cadre on board w/o paying their former high-end salaries. It was a win-win situation. And the kicker is that it was a district prerogative, not a teacher prerogative. The district could tell teachers it didn’t want back, “No, we are not offering YOU these incentives”.
But now there is NOT a teacher shortage anymore, so that scheme has been COMPLETELY PHASED OUT.
The point is, that is the difference between union-negotiated benefit schemes and ones that came into being out of mutual necessity and benefit. The corollary to that point is that, left alone, the market works these issues out. Not so when unions are involved. Unions create disasters, not solutions.
Take Our Poll
Do you support the protests by Wisconsin public employees?
Yes
No
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/4121999-417/poll-support-worker-protests-in-wisconsin.html
Outrageous!
9260 Votes
Yes Votes 4055
No Votes 5202
Blue box votes 3 (whatever this box is for)
there are the poll results
And I suppose if the people protested at their homes or crashed a dinner party at their favorite restaurant, that would be harrassment.
Your math is off because a teacher that is going to retire is making more like 70-75-80k per year if the average is 55K
So these thieves will be making more than you think
An inside job robbing the public treasury via BS contracts signed with hacks who undoubtedly get bribes and kickbacks
You can vote over and over on this. Vote early and often people! I’m going back...
http://heraldnews.suntimes.com/4121999-417/poll-support-worker-protests-in-wisconsin.html
not good. Democrats delay the vote, wisconsin Taxpayers May just Have Pay More in Taxes, Layoof more public workers including teachers. Because to many people have asked for retirement amounts that will break the back of the taxpayers.
Milwaukee County had a problem with the retirements whereby the Retiree could receive a Lump Sum Amount of in excess of 500,000.00 (someone from Wisconsin probably knows better what the average amounts were being given). Scott Walker became the Milwaukee County Executive just because of these Massive Lump Sum Payments. The virtually were emptying the tax base of Milwaukee county.
I spoke with my mother a former Milwaukee County employee, she was informed by a letter her pension would be cut 323.00. 50 Years of paying into the Milwaukee County Pension Fund and at the age 74 years of age she retired (2010). 40 years ago Milwaukee County required all employess to live within Milwaukee County - so we had to move from Waukesha County to Milwaukee County. Luckily the farm/farmland was being considered for Scotsland (Olympia Resort). Parents/grandparents made out on that one very good.
Yeah, double your pay, get full pension, and the best of vacation allotment and YOU too can 'sacrifice'!
That word really gets tiring, as if working for the government outside of military service is the ONLY way to sacrifice.
Am I reading this correctly? A year’s salary for 30 days of work spread out over three years? Seriously? How can I get a job like this. How on earth did this ever get approved in the first place? It’s insane!!!
layoof = Layoff, sorry Dragon Natural speaking picked up a voice difference thus changing the word to something different. sorry again.
Since bankruptcy is not an option...and should NEVER BE...there is no "higher, legal controlling authority" who can tell a state how they have to allocate their revenues and expenditures.
The damn pie chart at that polling location IS LYING. It shows 50/50 while the numbers are closer to 60/40.
LYING MSM.
It is not insane it is what happens when you have the union elected school boards negotiating with the union. I send the story to the local afternoon talker and he ran with it today on his show Mark Belling on WISN. Was nice to hear callers were as outraged as you.
How’s that Dragon thing work, anyway?
Do you talk into a microphone and the software tries to interpret that into text?
Do you have to “train” the software to recognize your voice?
I’m just curious, that’s all.
Thank you for your service defending us from the barbarians.
My nephew will be coming home on leave tomorrow for 15 days.
He has served one tour in Iraq and they are letting him come home
for a few days before his deployment to Afghanistan.
He just finished sniper school.
Glad to see them go. Now, bust the unions and hire NORMAL, God-Fearing PATRIOTS to replace them! :)
(It’s really not all that difficult if you ignore the PC-BS, LOL!)
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