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High court rules for military funeral protesters (Westboro Nuts Win 8-1!?)
AP ^ | 03/02/2011 | n/a

Posted on 03/02/2011 7:27:39 AM PST by Pyro7480

Edited on 03/02/2011 7:31:23 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Supreme Court has ruled that the First Amendment protects fundamentalist church members who mount attention-getting, anti-gay protests outside military funerals.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alito; scotus; supremecourt; ussupremecourt; westboro
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To: NFHale

Thank you. Good to see you too, and I hope your day is going great too.

Take care...


101 posted on 03/02/2011 10:17:30 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Here's the proof of Obama's U. S. citizenship: " " Good enough for our 3 branches...)
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To: Lazamataz
It’s a good decision in this case. The protesters were 300 yards away, on public property, and the father who brought suit didn’t even see them until the next day, on the news.

It looks like they're trying to 'thread a needle' here and leave it open to revisiting but let's not kid ourselves, those cases are DOA.

102 posted on 03/02/2011 10:19:51 AM PST by newzjunkey
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
No flame for you from me, but SCOTUS ruled long ago in the Skokie case that even neo-Nazis had a right to parade in a town full of Holocaust survivors. The case was 'National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie', 1977.

This case was hardly any different. SCOTUS decided to hear this case because it was brought forth by the man who had a monetary damages judgement against Westboro Baptist Church. If it hadn't been for that, or the other way around, they probably wouldn't even have chosen to hear this case, citing Skokie.

103 posted on 03/02/2011 10:23:23 AM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Pyro7480

When there is no shred of decency or semblance of humanity left in our nation.. the terrorists have won.


104 posted on 03/02/2011 10:24:40 AM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed .. Monthly Donor Onboard .. Obama: Epic Fail or Bust!!!)
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To: All
Fine. The Appellates and Supreme's have ruled and I'm in by far the minority on FR apparently.

I just hope that the next few hundreds of these that happens and the other new groups who will pick up on these tactics because Westboro has done it so successfully will not raise the whining and bleating here on FR that it has in the past when people were outraged at this kind of thing.

If it's Constitutionally protected Free Speech, then no Freeper should have anything to say about it in the future.

105 posted on 03/02/2011 10:32:51 AM PST by HeartlandOfAmerica (Insane, Corrupt Democrats or Stupid, Spinless Republicans - Pick America's poison.)
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To: SpaceBar

Don’t put speech in quotes as if what they’re doing isn’t speech. These idiots show up on public property, hold up offensive signs, and say offensive things. Surely you don’t mind people showing up on public property to protest, holding signs some might find offensive, or saying things some might find offensive, right? If so, that means the only reason to punish them is the content of the speech. On that basis, you couldn’t object if a church got fined for saying offensive things to women at an abortion clinic, as long as they are punished for saying something offensive to the women.


106 posted on 03/02/2011 10:52:34 AM PST by TexasAg
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To: jalisco555
Expose them.

That too, of course. But people must avoid directly confronting them or trying to get these "protests" banned. That is playing right into their hands.

I agree. Something smells very suspicious about the Westboro Baptist Church. The whole thing is a sham, and I'd love to see some hard facts about where their actual support and money comes from.

A ruling that would've made us feel better today would've been disastrous in the long run. The second a court rules that protests are illegal when they hurt people's feelings or use 'hate speech', the Left will use that to attack and financially destroy Tea Party groups, anti-abortion protesters, even victim's rights groups. I would not be surprised to find that WBC is an outfit designed to ridicule Christians and ultimately to erode the freedoms of speech and assembly.

As soon as any hard evidence emerges of Leftist backing of this ridiculous 'church' we need to get that info out into the public. People need to understand how hell-bent the Left is on destroying this nation...

107 posted on 03/02/2011 11:01:46 AM PST by Cap74 (You can disagree with me. You can attack me. Do not lie to me.)
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To: newzjunkey
You call showing up once to protest "stalking", while following someone "tracking". Funny stuff. If anything, you've given better justification for arresting the Tea Party members.

These folks have just as much right as the Tea Party, the KKK, the socialists, or anyone else to say offensive things. Rather than suppressing their free speech rights (and by extension everyone's free speech rights), we let groups like the Freedom Riders engage equally in their free speech rights. Don't you just love America.
108 posted on 03/02/2011 11:02:40 AM PST by TexasAg
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To: NormsRevenge

“...When there is no shred of decency or semblance of humanity left in our nation.. the terrorists have won...”

There IS still, Norm... They’re still breathing, brother.

A testament to the deceny and humanity of OUR side.

LFOD, brother.


109 posted on 03/02/2011 11:06:07 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: HeartlandOfAmerica
If it's Constitutionally protected Free Speech, then no Freeper should have anything to say about it in the future.

Don't equate people's support for free speech as support for what is said. I doubt anyone here agrees with what these losers say, but some of us aren't willing to weaken the 1st Amendment to prevent speech we disagree with.
110 posted on 03/02/2011 11:12:33 AM PST by TexasAg
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To: Exit148

WBC is at worst annoying and rude. They aren’t (yet) a
danger to life.

Supremes did get this right.


111 posted on 03/02/2011 11:16:22 AM PST by rahbert (" ..but you know all this. You're a Captain")
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To: NFHale
One more cut, out of a thousand

yesSir, maybe we could dress up as jihadis to counter-protest em...

that would diminish the bubble boobied newssettes coverage...

112 posted on 03/02/2011 11:17:36 AM PST by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: Gilbo_3
"...we could dress up as jihadis ..." I dunno, bro...something about smearing on "Eau De Cameldung" and "Goatpee No. 5" cologne just doesn't appeal to me...!!!!:^)
113 posted on 03/02/2011 11:20:37 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: ExtremeUnction
You are correct. This is the extreme of speech but it's protected.
114 posted on 03/02/2011 11:23:31 AM PST by MaxMax
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To: Pyro7480

The day will come when this group which abuses their First Amendment rights will encounter somone abusing their Second Amendment rights.


115 posted on 03/02/2011 12:02:15 PM PST by lightman (Adjutorium nostrum (+) in nomine Domini)
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To: Pyro7480

If anyone finds a link to Alito’s dissent (text) please ping. (I am interested in reading his detailed and particular thoughts on this case.)


116 posted on 03/02/2011 12:05:52 PM PST by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: Pyro7480

Wow. Tough ruling. Still, better these jerks go free than we get more government restrictions on speech. Especially with all the PC-speech codes prevalent in the places our future lawyers and judges are schooled. They’d be more likely to be comfortable with banning future “hurtful” speech if this loony group was banned.


117 posted on 03/02/2011 12:06:58 PM PST by bvw
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To: loboinok

mark


118 posted on 03/02/2011 12:19:01 PM PST by loboinok (Gun control is hitting what you aim at!)
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To: wbarmy

I agree that the best thing to do it to mobilize against them. Whenever they come to an area, we need to join together against them and shield the mourners.


119 posted on 03/02/2011 12:23:50 PM PST by trialbyfire (Black conservatives are people too.)
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To: Hawk720

Only Justice Samuel Alito dissented. He said the church’s “outrageous conduct caused petitioner great injury, and the court now compounds that injury by depriving petitioner of a judgment that acknowledges the wrong he suffered,” he said. “In order to have a society in which public issues can be openly and vigorously debated, it is not necessary to allow the brutalization of innocent victims like petitioner.”

If the rest of the SC had gone with Alito, how many here can see muslims shutting down any criticism of islam as hate speech? I can.


120 posted on 03/02/2011 12:53:37 PM PST by chessplayer
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