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We'll use military force to free Libya, vows Brit PM: Cameron
Daily Mail Online ^ | 1st March 2011 | TIM SHIPMAN

Posted on 03/01/2011 10:43:56 AM PST by gandalftb

David Cameron threatened Colonel Gaddafi with military action last night, promising a no-fly zone and arms shipments to his enemies.

In a dramatic move that could define his premiership, the Prime Minister even suggested he could send British troops into Libya as a peacekeeping force to stop Gaddafi’s henchmen massacring democracy campaigners.

At a National Security Council meeting yesterday morning, he ordered military chiefs to draw up plans for the no-fly zone. If Gaddafi turned his air force on the rebels, RAF warplanes would be able to intervene.

In another hard-hitting move, the Pentagon started moving warships in preparation to police a no-fly zone and world leaders imposed a raft of diplomatic and financial sanctions.

‘We must not tolerate this regime using military force against its own people,’ he told MPs. ‘In that context I have asked the Ministry of Defence and the Chief of the Defence Staff to work with our allies on plans for a military no-fly zone. My message to Colonel Gaddafi is simple: go now. We do not in any way rule out the use of military assets.' Asked whether Britain could supply arms to the Libyan opposition, Mr Cameron told MPs: ‘It is certainly something we should be considering.

Britain signed an arms embargo at the weekend preventing further sales of weapons to Libya. But Mr Cameron could justify sending weapons to the rebels using a loophole in the embargo allowing ‘humanitarian’ weapons drops.

France said it would fly aid to the opposition-controlled eastern half of the country.

Britain could deploy up to 59 Eurofighter Typhoons from RAF Coningsby and RAF Leuchars in Scotland. They are expected to fly from RAF Akrotiri in Cyprus, where British ‘eye in the sky’ AWACS aircraft are already stationed.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: libya; noflyzone
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To: gandalftb

Why not free Iran?


21 posted on 03/01/2011 11:01:08 AM PST by Armaggedon
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To: gandalftb

The positioning of those SAM facilities seems to underscore who Libya is really afraid of: Israel.


22 posted on 03/01/2011 11:02:13 AM PST by camerongood210
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To: gandalftb

I am all for us and the Brits going after Qaddafi. However, I suspect that the only reason why they are so focused on this is because of the contracts BP signed with the Libyan Government on oil before they released Megrahi for “humanitarian” reasons from a Scottish Prison.


23 posted on 03/01/2011 11:03:07 AM PST by BradtotheBone (Moderate Democrat - A politician whose voting record leans left and whose vote can be bought.)
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To: gandalftb
are the Brits in AQ’s pocket now.

They will get their oil regardless of whether Qaddafi or the Islamists have it.

24 posted on 03/01/2011 11:03:57 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: gandalftb
Good. Let the Euros take the lead on this for a change.

Notice that it took weeks before Zero said a word about Libya, and even then he was circumspect about criticizing Qaddafi personally. Anything Zero would do probably would need to be cleared with Qaddafi's buds Calypso Louie Farrakhan and Rev. 'GD AmeriKKKa' Wright anyway ... if anything, he'd probably intervene on Qaddafi's side.

25 posted on 03/01/2011 11:04:16 AM PST by bassmaner (Hey commies: I am a white male, and I am guilty of NOTHING! Sell your 'white guilt' elsewhere.)
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To: tallyhoe
I think any action by the US would be a mistake. Where is the US interest??

This a case where the cure may be worse than the disease.

26 posted on 03/01/2011 11:07:21 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: gandalftb

Ok, at best US Special Forces or maybe Marines should be used alongside SAS forces to capture/disable/destroy SAM sites in coordination with rebels. That should be the extent of US Involvement. Disable those SAM sites, turn over operable one to rebels, extract US forces and the Brits may be able to enforce a no-fly zone. Even though I would like no US involvement, if we have to that should be the extent.


27 posted on 03/01/2011 11:08:41 AM PST by PAMadMax (Islam is a disease....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yeah, but we have an arrest warrant out for Gudaffi over the Lockerbie bombing.


28 posted on 03/01/2011 11:08:55 AM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: TexasCajun

He coulda’ been a contenda’, but he took a one way ticket to Polookaville.


30 posted on 03/01/2011 11:11:02 AM PST by oyez (The difference in genius and stupidity is that genius has limits.)
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To: gandalftb
A refresher for Cameron:

"Forward, the Light Brigade!"

Was there a man dismay'd?

Not tho' the soldier knew

Someone had blunder'd:

31 posted on 03/01/2011 11:12:48 AM PST by DTA
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To: BradtotheBone

National self-interest is at least a rational reason for taking up arms. None of us had any reason to be in Serbia, for instance.

As well as protecting the Oil, don’t forget that the UK will likely get to keep Gadaffi’s money as well. Thats about ... 4000 dollars per taxpayer. That’s a useful proportion of our national debt.

Libya is not particularly likely to become a shining city on a hill whatever happens, but the chances improve if the UK sticks its oar in.

In summary: aerial sorties in defence of sweet, black oil is full of win for the UK.


32 posted on 03/01/2011 11:14:43 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: elpadre
Libya could stabilize the whole Med and N Africa. If NATO could get a base there to stabilize the new government, it would be the first foothold in Africa, except for Djibouti. We could help bring stability to the Sudan, Algeria and really interdict AQ in N Africa.

We don't want the new Libya to reorganize in a vacuum and all of us wondering what happened instead of helping things happen and getting the loyalty of the new leadership.

We won't put troops on the ground and for minimal cost get rid of a 42 year trouble-making dictator.

33 posted on 03/01/2011 11:14:54 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: gandalftb

Big brave talk from the country that threw Blair in the crapper for helping George Bush topple a murderous tyrant who was killing his own people and who already had defied 17 UN resolutions and sanctions

and from a govt that cut a deal with Qadaffi that released the Lockerbie bomber in exchange for oil

If brits want to “free Libya” (to what? the muslim brothers? al Qaeda?) let them go right on ahead. Oh and by the way, they just annnounced a major RIF in their own military

“For it’s Tommy this, an’ Tommy that, an’ “Chuck him out, the brute!”

But it’s “Saviour of ‘is country” when the guns begin to shoot”


34 posted on 03/01/2011 11:15:58 AM PST by silverleaf (All that is necessary for evil to succeed, is that good men do nothing)
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To: PAMadMax

We can safely take the SAM sites out with cruise missiles. Just need their platforms to get into place.


35 posted on 03/01/2011 11:17:03 AM PST by gandalftb (Fighting jihadists is like fighting an earthquake, harden yourselves.)
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To: silverleaf

Let the Muslims slaughter each other to their heart’s content. The lesser of them there are, the better for the world.


36 posted on 03/01/2011 11:18:25 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: tallyhoe
Are you volunteering to go?
37 posted on 03/01/2011 11:19:01 AM PST by ozdragon
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To: gandalftb

There’s 6.3 million people there. If 1/6th of the population rose up Qaddafi would be gone or dead in a few hours. The West needs to stay out of it.


38 posted on 03/01/2011 11:19:44 AM PST by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s only for Republicans.


39 posted on 03/01/2011 11:20:48 AM PST by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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To: gandalftb

I don’t know, perhaps you’re right. Question...after this crap is over would the US be on the hook to pay for these SAM defenses? If not, Tomahawks away.....


40 posted on 03/01/2011 11:21:38 AM PST by PAMadMax (Islam is a disease....)
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